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"Penny S" wrote in message ... Dan Volker ran this through spell check: You're so full of ****... First, bomba, if anyone here is full of ****, its a newsgroup poser like yourself, who enjoys hurling insults over the net, that would have you toothless in real life. Because I don't want to buy in to the ss cult, or your own version of what is the ultimate in mountain biking, you start humping my leg. since when are Hardtail and SS synonomous? Did not say they were....I am referring to past discussions and stereotypes. Dan V |
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BB wrote in news:c2gvsj$1r7d0c$1@ID-
130844.news.uni-berlin.de: You should say where you are and what sort of terrain you plan on riding. If its very rocky, yes full-suspension is nice. If its buff trails and long-extended climbs (as it is here in Oregon), a light hartail is a plus. That doesn't mean that people don't ride full-sussers here - I see them all the time (mostly on the fireroads, oddly enough). Sorry I left that part out. I will be riding what most would consider technical trails at Alifia State Park and such. Lots of rocks, roots, trees, and steep, treacherous climbs/descents. - Boyd S. |
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"Penny S" wrote in
: couple of thoughts: you don't say what kind of trails you will be on...or your budget As a beginner, I wouldn't consider myself a "trail connoisseur". What I would consider technical others would probably consider a piece of cake. I'll mostly be riding at state parks and such that have trails specifically designed and built by MTBers, ie. pretty technical. As for the other part of your question, I'd like to keep it under $1500. HT vs FS one school of thought is that you build up a better skills base learning to MTB on a hardtail, becuase you learn more about how to respond to what's going on with your bike and the trail. With inexperienced MB-ers and FS, there's a tendency to just let the bike take the hits, with out learning the skills that go with it. Good point. Then again, most MTBers I've talked to around here who started with HTs have either sold them or are trying to do so. I figured I might as well just skip that step to cut my inevitable financial losses. Racing on HT vs FS... don't even go there, that was most likely the third to last flame fest here... ;-) Sounds like the helmet wars over at rec.bicycles.racing basic buying a MTB FAQ http://bbauer.gomen.org/newbike/ Thanks. tell your hardcore friend to read this: http://teamsmack.org/ride/ride1.htm remind them it's about fun, not being hardcore. LMAO!!! Thanks for the link. welcome to the club, now go ride some dirt I did this morning on a borrowed bike (Giant VT) ... it was a blast!!! Penny S Thanks for your help. - Boyd S. |
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bomba wrote in newsan.2004.03.08.09.11.21.575521
@hotmail.com: Hmm, well seeing as you're in Tampa, I'd totally agree with your bike shop buddies and suggest you get something with loads of suspension to cope with all those huge mountains. Have you ever ridden Alafia River State Park? Its not British Columbia, but its not just a path through the woods either. There are some descents out there where you could get messed up *royally* if you endo. BTW, thanks for your loads of helpful advice for a newbie. - Boyd S. |
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"Per Löwdin" wrote in newsZX2c.85420$dP1.239433
@newsc.telia.net: The NRS are excellent, you get a lot for the money, and people win races on them. The techically minded magazines claim that NRS has a less active suspension than the FSR on the Ellsworth: i.e., it locks up during hard breaking or honking. Check out http://www.mtbr.com/ there are lots of reviews. The most interesting are those with bad critique. Thanks for your help. I've all ready read a bunch of reviews at mtbr.com, but most are either of the "this is the best bike ever!!" or "this thing is a piece of ****!!" variety. Not much objectivity over there. - Boyd S. |
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On 08 Mar 2004 17:05:39 GMT, Stephen Baker wrote:
My experience is no different from many, who find the transition from fully rigid to suspension to be a very neagtive experience. I don't think that many people would say the transition from fully rigid to suspension was a "very negative experience". What we will more likely say is that you gain some comfort, and you lose some handling. The overall loss/gain depends mainly on whether the trails are very rough (advantage suspension) or very twisty (advantage rigid). If they're both (as mine were at the time), its kind of a nit from a riding perspective, but at least with the suspension fork my wrists didn't hurt afterwards (advantage suspension). -- -BB- To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail address, at least) |
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Craig Brossman wrote in news:TV_2c.524$Vb6.222
@fe25.usenetserver.com: You might want to look at Titus as well, and I have been impressed with Specialized new line-up. Apparently you missed the part where I said my choices were limited to Ellsworth, Giant, Santa Cruz, and Marin. - Boyd S. |
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"Dan Volker" wrote in
: Boyd, If you raced road, or can ride well with Cat 2's, then you should have an aerobic advantage over friends which only mountain bike, but will be at a huge technical skill disadvantage for quite some time to come---best way to begin "enjoying" the mountain biking right away, on technical trails ( another poster said you were in Tampa, meaning Alafia is nearby, and it is very cool and quite technical on many of its trails) would be to go the "All Mountain" bike route, with 5 or 6 inches of full suspension, which should be using SPV on front and back to make best use out of your roadie cadence potential. This bike will be heavier than the hardtails your long time mountain biking buddies may be riding, but it will get you through technical obstacles with less need for finesse, and allow you to have fun immediately. Your aerobic advantage should cover the extra weight of the bike, and when you screw up and hit something really hard, the all mountain bike should be tougher than the 20 pound X-country alternative. I'm actually a Cat 3 who can hang fairly well with most Cat 2's. I rode out at Alafia this morning with some buddies on a borrowed VT. It was a very nice ride suspension-wise, but hard to get used to the shifting as it was a rapid rise rear derailleur. Once I traded rides with my buddy who was on a Gary Fisher Sugar with traditional shifting, I was able to keep my momentum better. Its suspension wasn't as plush as the VT. One of my buddies told me it was more akin to the NRS. But it got the job done fine. Down side of this advise for you is that you are a light rider, so bike weight will be more of an issue to you than a 190 pound rider---but if you are going out to ride for fun, I still think this is the best advise. If you are hell bent to race, then the Santa Cruz Blur might be the better route. Yeah, I really haven't decided whether or not I'm going to race. At this point I'm just out to have fun and learn how to ride correctly. The Blur is a very sweet ride, but it might be a little out of my budget. Dan V Thanks for the advice. - Boyd S. |
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"p e t e f a g e r l i n" wrote
in m: http://www.petefagerlin.com/fullimages/ouch_f.jpg Don't buy the ICT hype. They're four bar bikes, like many others out there. Also consider Ellsworth's very spotty customer service, their "lifetime warranty" that is not a lifetime warranty (their implementaion[charging customers for replacement parts for frames with manufacturing defects] is actually illegal) and the fact that Tony Ellsworth is lying sack of **** and a poor excuse for a human being. Thanks for the warning. - Boyd S. |
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Boyd Speerschneider ran this through spell check:
Yeah, I really haven't decided whether or not I'm going to race. At this point I'm just out to have fun and learn how to ride correctly. The Blur is a very sweet ride, but it might be a little out of my budget. If, as you say you want to learn to ride "correctly" I would again emphasize a hardtail. It teaches you so much more about body language and finesse than learning on a FS. Too many people start on a FS not understanding that their body is part of the suspension, and not just the shocks on the bike. penny |
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