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Fifty thousand mile warranty
It's uncanny. After forty or fifty thousand miles over more than thirty
years (most of it the first four years and the last two), everything seems to be going to pot in the past few months. Free-wheel locked up, left pedal locked up, derailleurs are getting unreliable, and now the bearings in the crank are crapping out. I don't recall any mention of a warranty when I bought it, but it is odd that it all happens so close together. It is a bit of a nuisance to fix so much in a short time, but compared to how long it was trouble-free, a few months of chaos has t be put in perspective. -- Wes Groleau Words of the Wild Wes http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.org/WWW |
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Wes Groleau wrote:
:It's uncanny. After forty or fifty thousand miles over more than thirty :years (most of it the first four years and the last two), :everything seems to be going to pot in the past few months. :Free-wheel locked up, left pedal locked up, derailleurs are getting :unreliable, and now the bearings in the crank are crapping out. :I don't recall any mention of a warranty when I bought it, but it is odd :that it all happens so close together. :It is a bit of a nuisance to fix so much in a short time, but compared :to how long it was trouble-free, a few months of chaos has t be put in erspective. Did it get any maintance during the period it was ridden hard, or after it came out of the dusty garage? I'm kind of wondering if with a bit of grease, and maybe a few ball bearings, it would run pretty well even now. -- sig 111 |
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On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 22:18:32 -0400, Wes Groleau
wrote: It's uncanny. After forty or fifty thousand miles over more than thirty years (most of it the first four years and the last two), everything seems to be going to pot in the past few months. Free-wheel locked up, left pedal locked up, derailleurs are getting unreliable, and now the bearings in the crank are crapping out. I don't recall any mention of a warranty when I bought it, but it is odd that it all happens so close together. It is a bit of a nuisance to fix so much in a short time, but compared to how long it was trouble-free, a few months of chaos has t be put in perspective. Obviously the poor thing got all upset after 30 years of neglect. Had you been a caring person and laved the poor thing with grease, rubbed its flanks with wax and anointed it with oil it would still be furnishing good service. -- Cheers, John B. |
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On Friday, October 12, 2012 8:18:34 PM UTC-6, Wes Groleau wrote:
It's uncanny. After forty or fifty thousand miles over more than thirty years (most of it the first four years and the last two), everything seems to be going to pot in the past few months. Free-wheel locked up, left pedal locked up, derailleurs are getting unreliable, and now the bearings in the crank are crapping out. I don't recall any mention of a warranty when I bought it, but it is odd that it all happens so close together. It is a bit of a nuisance to fix so much in a short time, but compared to how long it was trouble-free, a few months of chaos has t be put in perspective. -- Wes Groleau Words of the Wild Wes http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.org/WWW Steel frames used to have a lifetime warranty. If the frame fails under normal use, you can exchange it for a new one. Parts usually have a one year warranty on defects. Proof of purchase? |
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On Oct 12, 7:18 pm, Wes Groleau wrote:
It's uncanny. After forty or fifty thousand miles over more than thirty years (most of it the first four years and the last two), everything seems to be going to pot in the past few months. Free-wheel locked up, left pedal locked up, derailleurs are getting unreliable, and now the bearings in the crank are crapping out. I don't recall any mention of a warranty when I bought it, but it is odd that it all happens so close together. It is a bit of a nuisance to fix so much in a short time, but compared to how long it was trouble-free, a few months of chaos has t be put in perspective. The clue may be "most of it in the... last two [years]" (of "more than thirty"). Machines like to be running regularly. Okay, that's my anthropomorphism showing, but only in the terminolgy, "like". Wear patterns initiate, and if tuning is dialed in and tolerances maintained, good quality parts will wear to the ~end of their usable life (there I go again :-). It's possible that these parts *are* reaching their end if service, in whihc case it's actually kind of nice that everything's going all at once (the cosmic consciousness is telling Wes, "Get a new bike.") It's also possible that the parts could have kept going, but initiated wear patterns under different circumstances (rider weight, speed, style, etc., etc.) then sat forlorn and everything chemically equilibriated into things that don't wear so well, then the return to heavy sercive sisn't match the initial wear pattern and it's like if you go off the road edge and the camber takes you the rest of the way on to the bottom of the ditch. (Am I sounding crazy enough yet?) Anyway, since you're riding so much now, I'd recommend a new bike (or two or three or four). If you love this one, that's fine - it'll get a rest as you restore it. |
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On Oct 13, 10:10 am, Dan O wrote:
On Oct 12, 7:18 pm, Wes Groleau wrote: It's uncanny. After forty or fifty thousand miles over more than thirty years (most of it the first four years and the last two), everything seems to be going to pot in the past few months. Free-wheel locked up, left pedal locked up, derailleurs are getting unreliable, and now the bearings in the crank are crapping out. I don't recall any mention of a warranty when I bought it, but it is odd that it all happens so close together. It is a bit of a nuisance to fix so much in a short time, but compared to how long it was trouble-free, a few months of chaos has t be put in perspective. The clue may be "most of it in the... last two [years]" (of "more than thirty"). Machines like to be running regularly. Okay, that's my anthropomorphism showing, but only in the terminolgy, "like". Wear patterns initiate, and if tuning is dialed in and tolerances maintained, good quality parts will wear to the ~end of their usable life (there I go again :-). It's possible that these parts *are* reaching their end if service, in whihc case it's actually kind of nice that everything's going all at once (the cosmic consciousness is telling Wes, "Get a new bike.") It's also possible that the parts could have kept going, but initiated wear patterns under different circumstances (rider weight, speed, style, etc., etc.) then sat forlorn and everything chemically equilibriated into things that don't wear so well, then the return to heavy sercive sisn't match the initial wear pattern and it's like if you go off the road edge and the camber takes you the rest of the way on to the bottom of the ditch. (Am I sounding crazy enough yet?) Anyway, since you're riding so much now, I'd recommend a new bike (or two or three or four). If you love this one, that's fine - it'll get a rest as you restore it. When I bought my '86 Trek 400 in ~2006, it still had most original parts. I rode it a fair bit, and it held up admirably - being a ~fairly high quality bike (vs. e.g. a BSO). But when I *really* started putting the long daily miles on it in all kinds of weather, it needed more and more maintenace all the time and too often. It was my only bike, though, so I did the work (out in the garage at 10:30 PM on a weekday servicing hubs and BB for the next morning's ride). I upgraded wheels and BB and pedals - all with very high quality used parts - and new rear derailer and NOS shifters and gave it new cables and bar tape and cleaned and lubed and caressed the bike. By the time I finally wrecked the bike in one utterly stupid moment, it was beginning to run smooth and straight and nimble and happy - and going longer between maintenance. |
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On 10-12-2012 22:51, David Scheidt wrote:
Did it get any maintance during the period it was ridden hard, or after it came out of the dusty garage? I'm kind of wondering if with a bit of grease, and maybe a few ball bearings, it would run pretty well even now. "Dusty garage" isn't accurate. It did MOST of those miles (not ALL) 1980-1984 and 2010-2012. But no, it had no maintenance at all any of that time. Well, no significant maintenance like disassembly for greasing. -- Wes Groleau Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire! http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...gs/pants-fire/ |
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On Oct 13, 11:24 am, Wes Groleau wrote:
On 10-13-2012 08:37, wrote: Steel frames used to have a lifetime warranty. If the frame fails under normal use, you can exchange it for a new one. Parts usually have a one year warranty on defects. Proof of purchase? I didn't say anything about the frame. No, I cannot produce a thirty-two year-old proof of purchase for a bike shop 2,200 miles away. Nor would a one-year warranty help with the failures of 32-year-old bearings. No warranty does a lick of good when something breaks - only when you (would otherwise) whip out your wallet later, which has zero to do with Ride Bike! |
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