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Campy 9S to 10S upgrade (again and finally)
I am finally upgrading from Campy 9S to Campy 10S, and I am asking for
confirmation that I am ordering the right parts. I have Athena shifters with 30K+ miles on them. They came on a new bike I purchased in 1999 (Klein Q Race). They look like the levers pictured in the Campy 1999 catalog of parts. Is there any way to confirm that they are MY 1999? Does it matter if they are not? I am ordering the following parts for the upgrade: EC-RE061 (QBP: LD9742) Campy Ergo RH 10sp Index gear standard EC-RE209 (QBP: LD9773) Campy Ergo RH index spring fits all (Two of them. If I read the posts correctly, as long as I am taking the lever apart I might as well replace the G springs, the spring holder, and the teflon washer.) EC-RE057 (QBP: LD9880) Campy Ergo spring coiling bushing EC-RE111 (QBP: LD9730) Campy Ergo RH index spring carrier 98-06 I have a new 10S Mavic chain. I plan on retaining my Campy Athena 9S (1999) rear derailer. I have a new Campy CT (compact) Centaur front derailer and new FSA Energy compact cranks (50/34). I use Shimano-campatible cassettes (I use a Power Tap which takes only Shimano). Can I get the same (OK) shifting running Campy 10S shifters/Shimano cassettes that I had with Campy 9S shifters/Shimano cassettes? I am considering using the Wheels Manufacturing re-spaced Shimano Ultegra cassettes, but will stick w. Shimano as they are less expensive as long as the shifting is OK. Any suggestions? Are there any tricks to upgrading the lever? Any better on-line description than he http://www.campyonly.com/howto/ergo_rebuild.html ? Many thanks for your help. Kirby. |
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Campy 9S to 10S upgrade (again and finally)
schreef in bericht oups.com... I am finally upgrading from Campy 9S to Campy 10S, and I am asking for confirmation that I am ordering the right parts. I have Athena shifters with 30K+ miles on them. They came on a new bike I purchased in 1999 (Klein Q Race). They look like the levers pictured in the Campy 1999 catalog of parts. Is there any way to confirm that they are MY 1999? Does it matter if they are not? I am ordering the following parts for the upgrade: EC-RE061 (QBP: LD9742) Campy Ergo RH 10sp Index gear standard EC-RE209 (QBP: LD9773) Campy Ergo RH index spring fits all (Two of them. If I read the posts correctly, as long as I am taking the lever apart I might as well replace the G springs, the spring holder, and the teflon washer.) EC-RE057 (QBP: LD9880) Campy Ergo spring coiling bushing EC-RE111 (QBP: LD9730) Campy Ergo RH index spring carrier 98-06 I have a new 10S Mavic chain. I plan on retaining my Campy Athena 9S (1999) rear derailer. I have a new Campy CT (compact) Centaur front derailer and new FSA Energy compact cranks (50/34). I use Shimano-campatible cassettes (I use a Power Tap which takes only Shimano). Can I get the same (OK) shifting running Campy 10S shifters/Shimano cassettes that I had with Campy 9S shifters/Shimano cassettes? I am considering using the Wheels Manufacturing re-spaced Shimano Ultegra cassettes, but will stick w. Shimano as they are less expensive as long as the shifting is OK. Any suggestions? Are there any tricks to upgrading the lever? Any better on-line description than he http://www.campyonly.com/howto/ergo_rebuild.html ? Many thanks for your help. Kirby. Try and look here, http://www.yellowjersey.org/ergo1.html good luck Taeke |
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Good point! Andy Muzi is an excellent resource; don't forget to
download Paul Southworth's excellent write up too: http://www.yellowjersey.org/ergo_ps.pdf For parts and advice, if you don't have a knowledgeable LBS, you can't go wrong with either Andy Muzi at yellowjersey or Peter Chisholm (www.vecchios.com) as both will sell you only the parts you need and at a fair price, nothing more. I've used Peter, he sent me exactly what I needed. You can also call or email him for advice on repairs as he's done a million of these. I wouldn't hestitate to do business with Andy Muzi either! |
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Thanks everyone for your replies!
You should also replace the indexing cam that is on the front side of the shifter under a spring that holds the through bolt in place. EC-RE251? Looks like half of a thread spool with a notched cut through the middle? you'd be better off buying a new set of Ergo levers and selling your Athenas. Yes ... it's close to not worth it, but I like taking things apart. Anyone want the Athenas? They have no broken internals, as best I can tell. If you retain the Athena rear derailleur, you will move the rear derailleur 3.9mm/click, exactly what Shimano 10 is. Good to know. Thanks again. |
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Campy 9S to 10S upgrade (again and finally)
bfd wrote: Good point! Andy Muzi is an excellent resource; don't forget to download Paul Southworth's excellent write up too: http://www.yellowjersey.org/ergo_ps.pdf For parts and advice, if you don't have a knowledgeable LBS, you can't go wrong with either Andy Muzi at yellowjersey or Peter Chisholm (www.vecchios.com) as both will sell you only the parts you need and at a fair price, nothing more. I've used Peter, he sent me exactly what I needed. You can also call or email him for advice on repairs as he's done a million of these. I wouldn't hestitate to do business with Andy Muzi either! I would second this recommendation on both Andy and Peter. I just purchased one of Andy's build kits for a new Gunnar frame and he provided great input on component selection (Veloce/Centaur) and where to upgrade and where not to. He charges you real shipping charges and does what he says. We had a minor mixup on the order and Andy made it right, with no hassles. When you talk to most of the big volume providers (ie Nashbar, Performance (a true aximoron)etc.) you rarely talk to anyone who really knows bikes. Andy knows bikes and you can trust him. While I haven't purchased anything from Peter, I certainly wouldn't hesitate. I think he provides a wealth of valuable real world information. While this newsgroup is much better than the Bike Forum (which seems to be a bunch of weight weenies that are mostly concerned about the looks of a bike and how little it weighs) there still can be alot of erroneous information to sift through. However Peter's posts always seem to provide a strong dose of reality , rather than hype. Pat McShane |
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Be careful! 1998 Chorus levers, although the rounded shape, are not
easily converted (the expensive bolt is the wrong diameter for the 10 spd index disk). Chorus & Record had their innards changed for 1999. Despite what one mech (whose word I usually take as the final authority), at least some 1999 Athena levers (mine, and the box says "1999") used 1998 Chorus parts and are therefore not convertable to 10 spd. wrote: I am finally upgrading from Campy 9S to Campy 10S, and I am asking for confirmation that I am ordering the right parts. I have Athena shifters with 30K+ miles on them. They came on a new bike I purchased in 1999 (Klein Q Race). They look like the levers pictured in the Campy 1999 catalog of parts. Is there any way to confirm that they are MY 1999? Does it matter if they are not? |
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richard wrote: Despite what one mech (whose word I usually take as the final authority), at least some 1999 Athena levers (mine, and the box says "1999") used 1998 Chorus parts and are therefore not convertable to 10 spd. New shape or old shape? |
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Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:
richard wrote: Despite what one mech (whose word I usually take as the final authority), at least some 1999 Athena levers (mine, and the box says "1999") used 1998 Chorus parts and are therefore not convertable to 10 spd. New shape or old shape? New |
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