speaking of Jobst

On Thursday, January 3, 2013 12:25:37 AM UTC-5, James wrote:
On 03/01/13 15:54, thirty-six wrote:



he appeared quite muddle-headed in this ng for at least 6 months

before his fall. He was more frequently attempting to defend

arguments unrelated to the subject presented. It was 1987 I was

first reading this ng and I couldn't put it down to his general

belligerence or developed angst towards "snipers", black trucks and

sunglasses etc.



I never understood the anti sunglasses rants. Eyes are sensitive parts

and I for one prefer to wear sun glasses than not, and I have experience

of not. If he didn't want to, that was his choice.



--

JS.

Ah sunglasses.

I and a friend were riding one day from Toronto (Canada) to Brantford. It was sunny and after about an hour he was complaining abour a massive headache. I loaned him a pair of sunglasses and within 15 m inutes his headache was gone. He was also amazed at how sunglassed reduced his feeling of fatigue.. Another time I was riding at speed when a large bug hit my left lense with such force that the lense cracked. Any glasses are also very helpful for keeping noseeums and other small bugs and dust out of your eyes.

Cheers

Per Sir Ridesalot:
Any glasses are also very helpful for...

Somewhere I got it in my head that the UV exposure from being
outside for long periods of time without sunglasses contributes
significantly to cataracts.

Maybe somebody who knows can comment.
--
Pete Cresswell

IN LARGER TERMS, a stroke may occur with the combination of overexertion and aging then trauma. Nixon In Russia may be an example or Brandt On Doone ?

I hoped for his return and off course he may nhave returned somewhere under another ID but as the daze dwindle down RBT may not be as entertaining or educationally advanced as it was before.

Surly 36 comment is pot and kettle quality.

Dan O wrote:
Even the strongest believers in foam hats would be unlikely to
wear one in the hospital, where his brain injury (from stroke)
happened. Nor would many of them attempt to imply that a foam
hat would make any difference in those circumstances.

Still, bit of an ironic coincidence, don't you think?

No. Where do you see ironic aspects?

--
Best regards
helmut springer panta rhei

On 1/2/2013 10:54 PM, thirty-six wrote:
On Jan 3, 4:33 am, Jay Beattie wrote:
On Jan 2, 7:35 pm, thirty-six wrote:







On Jan 3, 1:23 am, Dan O wrote:

On Jan 2, 4:50 pm, Phil W Lee wrote:

Don Gillies considered Wed, 2 Jan 2013 13:51:00
-0800 (PST) the perfect time to write:

I guess in this case, no news is not good news. It's been about 2 years since he had a serious accident on his bike climbing up to skyline boulevard from Palo Alto. Not only did he injure his leg, but he had a stroke while in the hospital. Unfortunately, he was not wearing a helmet when this happened, it was one of his "religious beliefs" that he should not wear helmets, and I think he sustained some very permanent brain injuries.

Even the strongest believers in foam hats would be unlikely to wear
one in the hospital, where his brain injury (from stroke) happened.
Nor would many of them attempt to imply that a foam hat would make any
difference in those circumstances.

Still, bit of an ironic coincidence, don't you think?

AIUI strokes are typically the result of a blood clot from the leg
being mobilised and lodging in a blood vessel of the brain. Lack of
adequate cholesterol levels are contributory to the inabilty to
protect along with other immune system inadequacies.

A clot from a deep vein thrombosis in the leg lodges in the pulmonary
artery and ultimately in the lung(s).

yes, I'll have a sleep on that.

It can't get to the brain
unless there is a hole between the right and left ventricles. An

there may be other explanations.

ischemic stroke results from clot in the arterial system. There is a
known stroke risk associated with hip replacement, but not from DVT.

hmm, I suspect that there is much not known.

We also don't know if Jobst had an ischemic (clot) or hemorrhagic

he appeared quite muddle-headed in this ng for at least 6 months
before his fall. He was more frequently attempting to defend
arguments unrelated to the subject presented. It was 1987 I was
first reading this ng and I couldn't put it down to his general
belligerence or developed angst towards "snipers", black trucks and
sunglasses etc.


My, you certainly are an exceptional person.

In 1987 I was using a dail-up modem to send overseas
telegrams because it was cheaper than a fax to Japan.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Thursday, January 3, 2013 9:04:24 AM UTC-5, (PeteCresswell) wrote:

Somewhere I got it in my head that the UV exposure from being

outside for long periods of time without sunglasses contributes

significantly to cataracts.



Maybe somebody who knows can comment.

I've heard that for many years. And Google sources say it's true, so how can one possibly doubt? ;-)

I'm not particularly worried, since I've used photochromic lenses for many decades, and my understanding is that most, if not all such lenses block almost all UV.

It does amaze me that we somehow evolved in a way to be harmed in so many ways by the sun. It's not like sunlight is a new phenomenon.

- Frank Krygowski

Per :
It does amaze me that we somehow evolved in a way to be harmed in so many ways by the sun. It's not like sunlight is a new phenomenon.

I think of two things:

- All the DNA cares about is that bodies last long enough
to pro-create and, maybe, help care for the offspring
for awhile. I'm guessing that doesn't add up to more
than 40-some years and after that there is no advantage
to added durability.

- In places where people live with a lot of sun, they have
adapted: more pigment in the skin, brown eyes, thicker
hair. When I was in the Dominican Republic, I'd marvel
at guys working in blazing sun without even a hat or a
shirt.
--
Pete Cresswell

AMuzi wrote:

It was a broken femur not a cranial impact.



I think it was both. A reliable source indicated that Jobst was unconsious when a motorist stopped to help.

Art Harris

James wrote:

I never understood the anti sunglasses rants. Eyes are sensitive parts
and I for one prefer to wear sun glasses than not, and I have experience
of not. If he didn't want to, that was his choice.

Christmas Eye is an eye infection affecting cyclists at this time
of year in SE Australia. Jobst would have had a very different
attitude to sunglasses if he'd caught from its host (a tiny
flying insect).

John

On 04/01/13 07:21, John Henderson wrote:
James wrote:

I never understood the anti sunglasses rants. Eyes are sensitive parts
and I for one prefer to wear sun glasses than not, and I have experience
of not. If he didn't want to, that was his choice.

Christmas Eye is an eye infection affecting cyclists at this time
of year in SE Australia. Jobst would have had a very different
attitude to sunglasses if he'd caught from its host (a tiny
flying insect).


I've not heard of that. I googled and found
http://www.mmg.com.au/local-news/ben...mas-eye-1.2030

Noting that they say "It’s unique to the north-east area, ", which I
assume means north-east of Victoria, and not as far south as Melbourne.

Nasty!

Riding around Alexandra, Yea, Seymour, Euroa, etc., I recall a few times
getting a small black insect in my eyes, which caused great irritation
on the spot, but could be seen by another person and removed, and the
eye irrigated to alleviate most of the discomfort.

--
JS.