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Hull cyclist rides into a lorry and dies, she may have beendistracted by her headphones.



 
 
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Old December 5th 16, 02:41 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
MrCheerful
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Default Hull cyclist rides into a lorry and dies, she may have beendistracted by her headphones.

A cyclist who died trying to avoid a collision with a lorry may have
been distracted by listening to music on her iPhone.
Mother-of-one Emily Norton, 38, fractured her skull and spinal cord when
she fell off her bike in Howden, Yorkshire.
She had entered a roundabout without looking right at the same time as a
HGV and took a tumble after trying to avoid a crash with the lorry, Hull
Coroners' Court heard.
Ms Norton, who was wearing her headphones at the time of her tragic
crash, was not wearing a helmet on the day of the incident and died
instantly.
East Riding of Yorkshire Coroner Paul Marks ruled listening to music
could have been a distraction and contributed to her misjudgment.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz4RyUqDXMG


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Old December 5th 16, 03:42 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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Default Hull cyclist rides into a lorry and dies, she may have beendistracted by her headphones.

On 05/12/2016 14:41, MrCheerful wrote:

A cyclist who died trying to avoid a collision with a lorry may have
been distracted by listening to music on her iPhone.
Mother-of-one Emily Norton, 38, fractured her skull and spinal cord when
she fell off her bike in Howden, Yorkshire.
She had entered a roundabout without looking right at the same time as a
HGV and took a tumble after trying to avoid a crash with the lorry, Hull
Coroners' Court heard.
Ms Norton, who was wearing her headphones at the time of her tragic
crash, was not wearing a helmet on the day of the incident and died
instantly.
East Riding of Yorkshire Coroner Paul Marks ruled listening to music
could have been a distraction and contributed to her misjudgment.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz4RyUqDXMG


What? She fractured her skull and spine just by falling off, no other
vehicle involved in any sort of collision?

QUOTE:
Coroner Paul Marks ruled listening to music could have been a distraction
ENDQUITE

Of course it "could", but the question, surely, whether it has been
proved that it was?
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Old December 5th 16, 04:14 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
MrCheerful
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Default Hull cyclist rides into a lorry and dies, she may have beendistracted by her headphones.

On 05/12/2016 15:42, JNugent wrote:
On 05/12/2016 14:41, MrCheerful wrote:

A cyclist who died trying to avoid a collision with a lorry may have
been distracted by listening to music on her iPhone.
Mother-of-one Emily Norton, 38, fractured her skull and spinal cord when
she fell off her bike in Howden, Yorkshire.
She had entered a roundabout without looking right at the same time as a
HGV and took a tumble after trying to avoid a crash with the lorry, Hull
Coroners' Court heard.
Ms Norton, who was wearing her headphones at the time of her tragic
crash, was not wearing a helmet on the day of the incident and died
instantly.
East Riding of Yorkshire Coroner Paul Marks ruled listening to music
could have been a distraction and contributed to her misjudgment.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz4RyUqDXMG


What? She fractured her skull and spine just by falling off, no other
vehicle involved in any sort of collision?

QUOTE:
Coroner Paul Marks ruled listening to music could have been a distraction
ENDQUITE

Of course it "could", but the question, surely, whether it has been
proved that it was?


The insular nature of headphones cuts you off from the outside world,
leaving you alone in your little bubble, so very likely she was
distracted, in a trance from hypnotic beats perhaps. and that is the
difference between the hearing using headphones and the deaf, deaf
people are not concentrating to or being distracted or lulled by the
sounds coming into their heads.
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Old December 5th 16, 05:58 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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Default Hull cyclist rides into a lorry and dies, she may have beendistracted by her headphones.

On 05/12/2016 16:14, MrCheerful wrote:
On 05/12/2016 15:42, JNugent wrote:
On 05/12/2016 14:41, MrCheerful wrote:

A cyclist who died trying to avoid a collision with a lorry may have
been distracted by listening to music on her iPhone.
Mother-of-one Emily Norton, 38, fractured her skull and spinal cord when
she fell off her bike in Howden, Yorkshire.
She had entered a roundabout without looking right at the same time as a
HGV and took a tumble after trying to avoid a crash with the lorry, Hull
Coroners' Court heard.
Ms Norton, who was wearing her headphones at the time of her tragic
crash, was not wearing a helmet on the day of the incident and died
instantly.
East Riding of Yorkshire Coroner Paul Marks ruled listening to music
could have been a distraction and contributed to her misjudgment.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz4RyUqDXMG



What? She fractured her skull and spine just by falling off, no other
vehicle involved in any sort of collision?

QUOTE:
Coroner Paul Marks ruled listening to music could have been a distraction
ENDQUITE

Of course it "could", but the question, surely, whether it has been
proved that it was?


The insular nature of headphones cuts you off from the outside world,
leaving you alone in your little bubble, so very likely she was
distracted, in a trance from hypnotic beats perhaps. and that is the
difference between the hearing using headphones and the deaf, deaf
people are not concentrating to or being distracted or lulled by the
sounds coming into their heads.


Maybe.

But has it been proven?

The Coroner seems simply to have moved from "it could have" to "it might
have" and then to "it probably did", without reminding himself that "it
could have" also encompasses "but might not have".
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Old December 5th 16, 06:10 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
MrCheerful
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Default Hull cyclist rides into a lorry and dies, she may have beendistracted by her headphones.

On 05/12/2016 17:58, JNugent wrote:
On 05/12/2016 16:14, MrCheerful wrote:
On 05/12/2016 15:42, JNugent wrote:
On 05/12/2016 14:41, MrCheerful wrote:

A cyclist who died trying to avoid a collision with a lorry may have
been distracted by listening to music on her iPhone.
Mother-of-one Emily Norton, 38, fractured her skull and spinal cord
when
she fell off her bike in Howden, Yorkshire.
She had entered a roundabout without looking right at the same time
as a
HGV and took a tumble after trying to avoid a crash with the lorry,
Hull
Coroners' Court heard.
Ms Norton, who was wearing her headphones at the time of her tragic
crash, was not wearing a helmet on the day of the incident and died
instantly.
East Riding of Yorkshire Coroner Paul Marks ruled listening to music
could have been a distraction and contributed to her misjudgment.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz4RyUqDXMG




What? She fractured her skull and spine just by falling off, no other
vehicle involved in any sort of collision?

QUOTE:
Coroner Paul Marks ruled listening to music could have been a
distraction
ENDQUITE

Of course it "could", but the question, surely, whether it has been
proved that it was?


The insular nature of headphones cuts you off from the outside world,
leaving you alone in your little bubble, so very likely she was
distracted, in a trance from hypnotic beats perhaps. and that is the
difference between the hearing using headphones and the deaf, deaf
people are not concentrating to or being distracted or lulled by the
sounds coming into their heads.


Maybe.

But has it been proven?

The Coroner seems simply to have moved from "it could have" to "it might
have" and then to "it probably did", without reminding himself that "it
could have" also encompasses "but might not have".


There have now been quite a few cyclist deaths where headphones have
been implicated.
 




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