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Fast, dark, no lights, no helmet. Why are cyclists so stupid?
Mr Williams said: “He was wearing dark clothing and didn’t have a crash
helmet or lights on his bike. “He was cycling quickly in Tan Lane and crossed the road in front of Mrs Roberts.............. at about 10.20pm on May 11." http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2...-in-stourport/ |
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Fast, dark, no lights, no helmet. Why are cyclists so stupid?
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Mrcheerful wrote: Mr Williams said: ³He was wearing dark clothing and didn¹t have a crash helmet or lights on his bike. ³He was cycling quickly in Tan Lane and crossed the road in front of Mrs Roberts.............. at about 10.20pm on May 11." http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2...lmet-died-afte r-car-collision-in-stourport/ Of what relevance is the lack of a helmet? |
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Fast, dark, no lights, no helmet. Why are cyclists so stupid?
"Mrcheerful" wrote in message
... Looks more like the moral of the story is that it is usually a good idea to look for other traffic when pulling out of a junction. Y'know, a behaviour that often marks out stupid people when they're being "motorists". Mr Williams said: "He was wearing dark clothing and didn't have a crash helmet or lights on his bike. Why would that have made a difference, given that lights and hi-viz don't show up through buildings? With poor sightlines compounded by large items of abandoned property reducing road width, the obvious conclusion is that the driver was going too fast for the conditions, unable to make a reasonable response to the mistakes of other road users. (On the basis of the view in Streetview, 25mph looks too fast, even in daylight.) If a Transit really was parked "on the right" was the driver/owner done for parking on double yellows? |
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Fast, dark, no lights, no helmet. Why are cyclists so stupid?
"Andy Watson" wrote in message ... In article , Mrcheerful wrote: Mr Williams said: ³He was wearing dark clothing and didn¹t have a crash helmet or lights on his bike. ³He was cycling quickly in Tan Lane and crossed the road in front of Mrs Roberts.............. at about 10.20pm on May 11." http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2...lmet-died-afte r-car-collision-in-stourport/ Of what relevance is the lack of a helmet? People who blatantly disregard their own lives are less likely to value other people's. |
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Fast, dark, no lights, no helmet. Why are cyclists so stupid?
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"Mentalguy2k8" wrote: "Andy Watson" wrote in message ... In article , Mrcheerful wrote: Mr Williams said: ³He was wearing dark clothing and didn¹t have a crash helmet or lights on his bike. ³He was cycling quickly in Tan Lane and crossed the road in front of Mrs Roberts.............. at about 10.20pm on May 11." http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2...-helmet-died-a fte r-car-collision-in-stourport/ Of what relevance is the lack of a helmet? People who blatantly disregard their own lives are less likely to value other people's. Since there is no compelling or conclusive evidence that helmets save lives, there is thus no proof that a person who does not wear a helmet does not 'value [his] own [life]'. |
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Fast, dark, no lights, no helmet. Why are cyclists so stupid?
On 30/08/2013 10:29, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote in message ... Looks more like the moral of the story is that it is usually a good idea to look for other traffic when pulling out of a junction. Y'know, a behaviour that often marks out stupid people when they're being "motorists". Mr Williams said: "He was wearing dark clothing and didn't have a crash helmet or lights on his bike. Why would that have made a difference, given that lights and hi-viz don't show up through buildings? With poor sightlines compounded by large items of abandoned property reducing road width, the obvious conclusion is that the driver was going too fast for the conditions, unable to make a reasonable response to the mistakes of other road users. (On the basis of the view in Streetview, 25mph looks too fast, even in daylight.) If a Transit really was parked "on the right" was the driver/owner done for parking on double yellows? perhaps it was broken down, or delivering, or perhaps the double yellows don't apply at that time of night. I agree that two people have made a mistake, but the cyclist made the largest one. |
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Fast, dark, no lights, no helmet. Why are cyclists so stupid?
"Mrcheerful" wrote
I agree that two people have made a mistake, but the cyclist made the largest one. I don't take issue with that but I asked for reasoning for the thread title. The sarcasm you add every time you link a newspaper report just marks you out as a deliberate mischief maker, not someone interested in cycle safety as you try to claim. You get the contempt you deserve. |
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Fast, dark, no lights, no helmet. Why are cyclists so stupid?
On 30/08/2013 11:13, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote I agree that two people have made a mistake, but the cyclist made the largest one. I don't take issue with that but I asked for reasoning for the thread title. The sarcasm you add every time you link a newspaper report just marks you out as a deliberate mischief maker, not someone interested in cycle safety as you try to claim. You get the contempt you deserve. Do you think that the cyclist was acting sensibly, or stupidly? |
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Fast, dark, no lights, no helmet. Why are cyclists so stupid?
"Mrcheerful" wrote
On 30/08/2013 11:13, TMS320 wrote: "Mrcheerful" wrote I agree that two people have made a mistake, but the cyclist made the largest one. I don't take issue with that but I asked for reasoning for the thread title. The sarcasm you add every time you link a newspaper report just marks you out as a deliberate mischief maker, not someone interested in cycle safety as you try to claim. You get the contempt you deserve. Do you think that the cyclist was acting sensibly, or stupidly? You started the thread and made a sarcastic comment. It is reasonable for you to explain what's going on in your mind, not expect other people to be telepathic. |
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Fast, dark, no lights, no helmet. Why are cyclists so stupid?
"TMS320" wrote in message ... "Mrcheerful" wrote I agree that two people have made a mistake, but the cyclist made the largest one. I don't take issue with that but I asked for reasoning for the thread title. The sarcasm you add every time you link a newspaper report just marks you out as a deliberate mischief maker, not someone interested in cycle safety as you try to claim. You get the contempt you deserve. And in your psycholist's world, that means anyone who disagrees with you, or is in the least bit critical of psycholist's bad behaviour. |
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