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Where's you other wheel? - The flip side
I ended up on the other side of the "where's your other wheel" comment this weekend. Sort of. My family went to the 'NY Renaissance Faire' (http://www.renfair.com/NY) this weekend. While on line, which was taking forever, I asked the people ahead of us all of whom were in various renaissance and medieval costumes if they were members of the 'Society for Creative Anachronism' (http://www.sca.org). One of them, who reminded me very much of the 'Simon Callow's' (http://tinyurl.com/lz3r) (he's on the left) character in 4 Weddings and a Funeral, said "yes." He then started commenting to his friends in a stage whisper, "Why whatever might lead someone to believe we're members of the SCA? It couldn't be our outlandish outfits...", etc, etc. I felt somewhat abashed, but managed to say, "Well you could just be run of the mill..." He quickly cut me off with the word "Weirdos?". To which I replied, "Well, yeah." Hey, I was just trying to make conversation! Raphael Lasar Matawan, NJ -- JJuggle - Last of the Dogmato-Revisionists You tore a big hole in your convertible top. What will you tell your mom and pop? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ JJuggle's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/24 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/27523 |
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Is that you kissing Britney Spears in your avatar? You've trimmed down a bit, Raphael, and I like the new look. We passed some rock climbers on the Iron Horse Trail this weekend and considered asking, "how's the view from up there," but thought better of it. Your approach is better. -- harper - Old dog, no tricks -Greg Harper B L U E S H I F T "I managed to get my missus riding a couple of yards before she got pregnant with Jenny, but she hasn't tried riding since. " - Danny Colyer "Sa da tay! Sepotown!" - Pootie Tang ------------------------------------------------------------------------ harper's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/426 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/27523 |
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Hmmm, I was at the NY Ren Faire Saturday, too, and -I- was one of the weirdos in garb (the *proper* term for weirdo clothes ). I spent about $300 on some more weirdo garb for the Simplefaire in October, mustard soup and red berries in cream, yummmmm. Of course, you do know that the proper term for members of the SCA is Scadian, don't you? It'd be sort of like asking if they're on a KH24, instead of if they're a clown--if you use this term they'll think you're a Scadian, too Did you notice the slack rope act? He had a unicyle, I didn't see him on it, though. -- brian.slater - Nellfurtiti, the Wonder Cat Brian C. Slater AKA: Snoopy Ok, I am now officially in my normal state of -advanced- confusion. Don't try to confuse me, it won't make any difference. "To not decide is to decide" - undecided ------------------------------------------------------------------------ brian.slater's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/3902 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/27523 |
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brian.slater wrote: *Of course, you do know that the proper term for members of the SCA is Scadian, don't you? It'd be sort of like asking if they're on a KH24, instead of if they're a clown--if you use this term they'll think you're a Scadian, too* I did not know this, but will keep it in mind for next time. When I was at college I lived not far from the dorm where most of the weir...I mean Scadians lived. Always a lively and interesting bunch. *Did you notice the slack rope act? He had a unicyle, I didn't see him on it, though. * I did not see the slack rope act. I'm not surprised that he had a unicycle though. Seems that authenticity is not among the major thrusts of these things. Generally speaking, Brian, where does authenticity fit in as a priority with Scadians? Are there nasty debates on the matter? I got the feeling that Britney Spears had taken over the movement based on the rather ahistorical amount of flesh the women were exposing. (Not that I was complaining, mind you.) Ah yes, my point: Authenticity. I have heard of juggling acts being quite surprised by the level of authenticity required by some events of this type to the point that all props must be made of only materials available at the time, e.g. wooden juggling clubs (ouch!). Connie Leaverton in her article in 'Kaskade' (http://www.kaskade.de) about busking festivals in Austria talks about having to dispense with her unicycle, her main prop, at one. Raphael Lasar Matawan, NJ -- JJuggle - Last of the Dogmato-Revisionists You tore a big hole in your convertible top. What will you tell your mom and pop? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ JJuggle's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/24 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/27523 |
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Based on my limited experience around SCA members, if you were to take a large roomful of all nerds, from various disciplines, the SCA people would stand out as the "nerds among nerds" in that group. That's just my opinion. So if they don't have snappy comebacks, what kind of nerds would they be? brian.slater wrote: *Did you notice the slack rope act? He had a unicyle, I didn't see him on it, though. * Is the NY Ren Faire still in Tuxedo? I've been to that, and one of my old performing partners, Jim Gleich, performed there every year. He did not use a unicycle, due to the obvious inaccuracy, but did allow himself some plastic juggling clubs. I remember a guy there who had a unicycle (shiny chrome Schwinn). I think Jim referred to him as "Noodlehead Ned." Don't know if that's the same guy. Why allow unicycles, plastic props, etc? I think part of it is to ensure quality entertainment. The Ren Faire performers are paid, though I don't think very much, and compromises are probably allowed in order for them to do their best quality work. I think one could decorate a set of plastic clubs to look like wood, though. -- johnfoss - Now riding to work John Foss the Uni-Cyclone www.unicycling.com ________________ "Where's my kids?" -- Amy Drummond "Where's my unicycle?" -- Andy Cotter spoken one right after the other, mostly to themselves, at NAUCC 2003 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ johnfoss's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/832 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/27523 |
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JJuggle wrote: *Ah yes, my point: Authenticity. I have heard of juggling acts being quite surprised by the level of authenticity required by some events of this type to the point that all props must be made of only materials available at the time, e.g. wooden juggling clubs (ouch!). Raphael Lasar Matawan, NJ * ouch indeed a·nach·ro·nism (-nkr-nzm) n. The representation of someone as existing or something as happening in other than chronological, proper, or historical order. One that is out of its proper or chronological order, especially a person or practice that belongs to an earlier time: "A new age had plainly dawned, an age that made the institution of a segregated picnic seem an anachronism" (Henry Louis Gates, Jr.). au·then·tic (ô-thntk) adj. Conforming to fact and therefore worthy of trust, reliance, or belief: an authentic account by an eyewitness. Having a claimed and verifiable origin or authorship; not counterfeit or copied: an authentic medieval sword. am i the only one wondering how the words 'anachronism' and 'authentic' ended up in the same thread? or being discussed by the same organisation? -- GILD - Waffle-tosser The only difference between me and a madman is that i'm not mad. Pablo Picasso 'this will only take a minute...(fixed)' (http://www.burmacampaign.org.uk/actions/un.htm) JUST SAY 'KNOW'! Namaste! Dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------ GILD's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/657 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/27523 |
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if that isn't sarcasm, then it's about authenticity within the anachronism. same as being historically realistic. but the 'creative' in sca means that they can be just as un authentic as they feel like -- ubersquish ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ubersquish's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/4328 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/27523 |
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GILD wrote: * this will only take a minute... * Even less since the link is broken. (It is not copied as a link here as VBulletin doesn't seem to support quoting signatures.) BTW, I had NOT wondered about the words anachronism and authentic being -bien étonnés de se trouver ensemble-. Klaas Bil -- Klaas Bil - Newsgroup Addict ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Klaas Bil's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/3442 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/27523 |
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Klaas Bil wrote: * Even less since the link is broken. Klaas Bil * i've fixed it else do the copy/paste thing http://www.burmacampaign.org.uk/actions/un.htm thanx for the heads-up! -- GILD - Waffle-tosser The only difference between me and a madman is that i'm not mad. Pablo Picasso 'this will only take a minute...(fixed)' (http://www.burmacampaign.org.uk/actions/un.htm) JUST SAY 'KNOW'! Namaste! Dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------ GILD's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/657 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/27523 |
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Good points all. I hang my head anachronistically in authentic shame. Raphael Lasar Matawan, NJ -- JJuggle - Last of the Dogmato-Revisionists You tore a big hole in your convertible top. What will you tell your mom and pop? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ JJuggle's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/24 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/27523 |
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