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Another reason economists are dorks!
Wed, 30 Jul 2003 01:28:18 -0400, ,
"Eric S. Sande" wrote: 163 and counting. When there's 3000 dead Americans in Iraq, will that equal 911? Out of line. Yes, how very UnCanadian of me. Take a few minutes to cool off. That was stone cold. That's what it has thus far cost in real terms using numbers people can relate to. If that ain't it, then what is the formula for the "exit strategy"? 5:4 / 2004? -- zk |
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Another reason economists are dorks!
"Kevan Smith" /\/\ wrote in message ... On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 04:15:46 GMT, Mark Hickey from Habanero Cycles wrote: OK then, how much is it worth to liberate 25 million Iraqis and remove a destabilizing influence from the near east? That would be worth something. Instead, we put 25 million Iraqis under martial law, subject to random incarceration and fear of death and managed to destablize at least three borders in the region. That's not worth a plug nickle. It's only been a couple of months. You can't fix 25 years of idiocy in 90 days. One option to the current situation would be to just leave. Pack up all the troops, tanks and aircraft, and just leave. We did that last time (sort of, except for the aircraft), and it did not go over well. The Iraqi's ready to overthrow Saddam felt abandoned, and they were. We left them hanging in the breeze. Then they were persecuted and slaughtered by Saddam. The other option would have been to let Saddam continue with his previous practices. Snubbing the UN, killing his own people and neighbors. Would that have been preferable? Wait until he attacks someone else? Kuwait again, maybe? Or Jordan? Or wipes out Israel, as was his desire. Eventually, the Iraqi population will decide their own form of government. Preferably one that we like, with our guidance, but maybe not. But they will get to choose. Give it a little time. Pete |
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Another reason economists are dorks!
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"Eric S. Sande" writes: It doesn't matter. Counting bodies is sick, no matter who does it. You said it! But there, unfortunately, /is/ a body count, and it's rising. Maybe it's time to question whether it's worth it? cheers, Tom -- -- Powered by FreeBSD Above address is just a spam midden. I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca |
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Another reason economists are dorks!
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Kevan Smith /\/\ writes: On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 05:55:37 GMT, "Pete" from Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com wrote: One option to the current situation would be to just leave. I like that option. I bet the Iraqi people would, too. A lot of 'em just want their jobs & electricity back. They note the oil is flowing again okay. cheers, Tom -- -- Powered by FreeBSD Above address is just a spam midden. I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca |
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Another reason economists are dorks!
Pete wrote:
Eventually, the Iraqi population will decide their own form of government. Preferably one that we like, with our guidance, but maybe not. But they will get to choose. Sarcasm can be so humorous. -- terry |
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Another reason economists are dorks!
Kevan Smith /\/\ wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 04:15:46 GMT, Mark Hickey from Habanero Cycles wrote: OK then, how much is it worth to liberate 25 million Iraqis and remove a destabilizing influence from the near east? That would be worth something. Instead, we put 25 million Iraqis under martial law, subject to random incarceration and fear of death and managed to destablize at least three borders in the region. That's not worth a plug nickle. Yeah, they were all living in paradise under Saddam, and the middle east was a peaceful, stable region, and all Iraq's neighbors were responsible and cooperative with a goal of peace in the region - right? Oh, and I'm sure the Iraqis would MUCH rather have hundreds of thousands more of their citizens offed by the Baath thugs than have the US occasionally kill a hostile goon with an AK-47, right? If the Iraqis would have risen up to try to overthrow Saddam, the body count would have been horrendous. As it is, they got off very easy. Of course you would prefer to let Saddam go on killing and oppressing the Iraqis rather than giving them a chance at self-government - which is odd since you seem to be so in favor of self-government when it comes to commerce. But I'm with Bob Hunt on this one - arguing politics with you is like teaching that pig to sing. Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles http://www.habcycles.com Home of the $695 ti frame |
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Another reason economists are dorks!
Kevan Smith /\/\ wrote in
: On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 04:15:46 GMT, Mark Hickey from Habanero Cycles wrote: OK then, how much is it worth to liberate 25 million Iraqis and remove a destabilizing influence from the near east? That would be worth something. Instead, we put 25 million Iraqis under martial law, subject to random incarceration and fear of death and managed to destablize at least three borders in the region. That's not worth a plug nickle. And what condition were they under prior to that? By the way are you one of those instant gratification types, obviously not a history major. |
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Another reason economists are dorks!
"one of the six billion" wrote in message ...
He's complaining about $6.2 million being spent over a whole year to accomodate people who want to ride their bikes as transportation when the U.S. is spending almost $4 billion a month to occupy Iraq, more than $130 million every day, $5 million every hour. So in total, how long does it take the feds to spend $6.2 million? About 8 seconds? Austin |
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Another reason economists are dorks!
Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:41:55 GMT,
, Mark Hickey wrote: So tell me - how many US lives IS having a democracy in the near east worth? No, I won't waste my breath. You, explain to their mothers how it was worth it. -- zk |
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