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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...oduced-reports
Ministers are set to recommend a new offence of causing death by dangerous cycling under plans expected to be announced this week, it has been reported. Last September, it was revealed MPs were considering introducing an offence for cyclists who kill pedestrians, in a review designed to reflect public concern over safety on the roads. Reports on Sunday suggested the review will recommend the new offence, which would carry the same penalties as causing death by dangerous driving. So some cyclists could be possibly looking at 14 years where they'll not be tempted to jump red-lights, ride on the pavements, and injure or kill pedestrians. Perfect |
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On Sunday, 4 March 2018 11:32:30 UTC, Judith wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...oduced-reports Ministers are set to recommend a new offence of causing death by dangerous cycling under plans expected to be announced this week, it has been reported. Last September, it was revealed MPs were considering introducing an offence for cyclists who kill pedestrians, in a review designed to reflect public concern over safety on the roads. Reports on Sunday suggested the review will recommend the new offence, which would carry the same penalties as causing death by dangerous driving. So some cyclists could be possibly looking at 14 years where they'll not be tempted to jump red-lights, ride on the pavements, and injure or kill pedestrians. Perfect The threat of 14 years in prison does not seem to deter motorists from jumping red lights or driving on pavements or injuring and killing pedestrians. |
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On 04/03/2018 12:51, Paul George wrote:
On Sunday, 4 March 2018 11:32:30 UTC, Judith wrote: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...oduced-reports Ministers are set to recommend a new offence of causing death by dangerous cycling under plans expected to be announced this week, it has been reported. Last September, it was revealed MPs were considering introducing an offence for cyclists who kill pedestrians, in a review designed to reflect public concern over safety on the roads. Reports on Sunday suggested the review will recommend the new offence, which would carry the same penalties as causing death by dangerous driving. So some cyclists could be possibly looking at 14 years where they'll not be tempted to jump red-lights, ride on the pavements, and injure or kill pedestrians. Perfect The threat of 14 years in prison does not seem to deter motorists from jumping red lights or driving on pavements or injuring and killing pedestrians. I support all vehicle users facing the same penalties for the same offences. I would be fairly certain that if I were to drive around in a car with no brakes and I ran down and killed someone as a result then I would get a bit more than 18 months in the way of a sentence (see the case of Charlie 'perjurer' Alliston). Yet the offences would be the same, so why should any vehicle type be treated differently to the rest? |
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On Sunday, March 4, 2018 at 1:12:26 PM UTC, MrCheerful wrote:
On 04/03/2018 12:51, Paul George wrote: On Sunday, 4 March 2018 11:32:30 UTC, Judith wrote: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...oduced-reports Ministers are set to recommend a new offence of causing death by dangerous cycling under plans expected to be announced this week, it has been reported. Last September, it was revealed MPs were considering introducing an offence for cyclists who kill pedestrians, in a review designed to reflect public concern over safety on the roads. Reports on Sunday suggested the review will recommend the new offence, which would carry the same penalties as causing death by dangerous driving. So some cyclists could be possibly looking at 14 years where they'll not be tempted to jump red-lights, ride on the pavements, and injure or kill pedestrians. Perfect The threat of 14 years in prison does not seem to deter motorists from jumping red lights or driving on pavements or injuring and killing pedestrians. I support all vehicle users facing the same penalties for the same offences. I would be fairly certain that if I were to drive around in a car with no brakes and I ran down and killed someone as a result then I would get a bit more than 18 months in the way of a sentence (see the case of Charlie 'perjurer' Alliston). Yet the offences would be the same, so why should any vehicle type be treated differently to the rest? If Charlie Alliston had been driving a car the case would never had made it to court. It would be a case of a pedestrian walking into the road in front of a moving vehicle. |
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On 04/03/2018 12:51, Paul George wrote:
On Sunday, 4 March 2018 11:32:30 UTC, Judith wrote: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...oduced-reports Ministers are set to recommend a new offence of causing death by dangerous cycling under plans expected to be announced this week, it has been reported. Last September, it was revealed MPs were considering introducing an offence for cyclists who kill pedestrians, in a review designed to reflect public concern over safety on the roads. Reports on Sunday suggested the review will recommend the new offence, which would carry the same penalties as causing death by dangerous driving. So some cyclists could be possibly looking at 14 years where they'll not be tempted to jump red-lights, ride on the pavements, and injure or kill pedestrians. Perfect The threat of 14 years in prison does not seem to deter motorists from jumping red lights or driving on pavements or injuring and killing pedestrians. So are you in favour of abolishing that penalty? |
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On 04/03/2018 14:45, Simon Jester wrote:
On Sunday, March 4, 2018 at 1:12:26 PM UTC, MrCheerful wrote: On 04/03/2018 12:51, Paul George wrote: On Sunday, 4 March 2018 11:32:30 UTC, Judith wrote: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...oduced-reports Ministers are set to recommend a new offence of causing death by dangerous cycling under plans expected to be announced this week, it has been reported. Last September, it was revealed MPs were considering introducing an offence for cyclists who kill pedestrians, in a review designed to reflect public concern over safety on the roads. Reports on Sunday suggested the review will recommend the new offence, which would carry the same penalties as causing death by dangerous driving. So some cyclists could be possibly looking at 14 years where they'll not be tempted to jump red-lights, ride on the pavements, and injure or kill pedestrians. Perfect The threat of 14 years in prison does not seem to deter motorists from jumping red lights or driving on pavements or injuring and killing pedestrians. I support all vehicle users facing the same penalties for the same offences. I would be fairly certain that if I were to drive around in a car with no brakes and I ran down and killed someone as a result then I would get a bit more than 18 months in the way of a sentence (see the case of Charlie 'perjurer' Alliston). Yet the offences would be the same, so why should any vehicle type be treated differently to the rest? If Charlie Alliston had been driving a car the case would never had made it to court. It would be a case of a pedestrian walking into the road in front of a moving vehicle. A moving motor vehicle with no brakes? |
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On 04/03/2018 11:32, Judith wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...oduced-reports Ministers are set to recommend a new offence of causing death by dangerous cycling under plans expected to be announced this week, it has been reported. Last September, it was revealed MPs were considering introducing an offence for cyclists who kill pedestrians, in a review designed to reflect public concern over safety on the roads. Reports on Sunday suggested the review will recommend the new offence, which would carry the same penalties as causing death by dangerous driving. So some cyclists could be possibly looking at 14 years where they'll not be tempted to jump red-lights, ride on the pavements, and injure or kill pedestrians. Perfect Not so. In order to be comparable to the laws concerning motor vehicles, the new legislation needs to cover damage to property (especially other vehicles, but also street furniture) and any injuries to the person (not just death). Ideally, cyclists need to be covered - whether they wish to be or not - by compulsory policies of insurance where the insurers are specifically aware that they are on risk for cycling incidents and where they know whose risk they are insuring (no winging it on mum's fridge-freezer insurance). |
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On Sunday, March 4, 2018 at 12:51:27 PM UTC, Paul George wrote:
On Sunday, 4 March 2018 11:32:30 UTC, Judith wrote: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...oduced-reports Ministers are set to recommend a new offence of causing death by dangerous cycling under plans expected to be announced this week, it has been reported. Last September, it was revealed MPs were considering introducing an offence for cyclists who kill pedestrians, in a review designed to reflect public concern over safety on the roads. Reports on Sunday suggested the review will recommend the new offence, which would carry the same penalties as causing death by dangerous driving. So some cyclists could be possibly looking at 14 years where they'll not be tempted to jump red-lights, ride on the pavements, and injure or kill pedestrians. Perfect The threat of 14 years in prison does not seem to deter motorists from jumping red lights or driving on pavements or injuring and killing pedestrians. Has Cheerless invoked Rhiannon yet? |
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On 05/03/18 00:32, Judith wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...oduced-reports Ministers are set to recommend a new offence of causing death by dangerous cycling under plans expected to be announced this week, it has been reported. Last September, it was revealed MPs were considering introducing an offence for cyclists who kill pedestrians, in a review designed to reflect public concern over safety on the roads. Reports on Sunday suggested the review will recommend the new offence, which would carry the same penalties as causing death by dangerous driving. So some cyclists could be possibly looking at 14 years where they'll not be tempted to jump red-lights, ride on the pavements, and injure or kill pedestrians. Perfect Already have it. It is called manslaughter. |
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On Sun, 04 Mar 2018 11:32:27 GMT, Judith
wrote: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...dangerous-cycl ing-offence-to-be-introduced-reports Where are the trolls of yester-year? -- Bah, and indeed, Humbug. |
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