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"ritcho"
hippy Wrote: I'm sticking with my "avoid bike paths at all costs" method. I'll second that - roads are for bikes and bikes are for roads. OTOH, I know the bit of path that Tamyka is complaining about. The road that runs parallel is probably even slower for cyclists at peak hour. Depends how good you are at dodging mirrors ;-) hippy |
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Lotte wrote:
Well said Tamyka. Too true. The same goes for cyclists who run red lights. I cannot control my sheer frustration when I see this and often scream at people who do this. I got told the other day to "get a bell". All I did was ask a bunch of pedestrians, walking 6 abreast in the city Botanical Gardens, if I could please get through. Just a simple question, asked nicely. Anyway, considering all 6 of them were overweight females with plenty of flesh (read: stretch marks, celliulite, bellybutton that would fit a watermelon) on show, I figured it must have been a huge energy expenditure for them to move 2 steps across. -- Lotte Interesting that they would rather you ring a bell at them than politely ask them to move. Same day I came up behind a man riding along behind his small child (you know, a bit shaky but big enough to remain upright on it); I slowed right down and called out "I'm just coming up on your right" at which point the man told his son to move left and thanked me very much for not just flying past. Hmmm, warm fuzzies, still some nice, sensible people out there. |
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Terry Collins Wrote: If you have isolated pedestrians, then a few rings from wide away will alert them to your prescence (so long as you are travelling slow) and most give you a wide berth/ the complete path. The worst is crowded paths when you have to ring the bell close t them. I'm thinking of installing a seat on my front rack. The number o times I've been on one side of the path ready to slip around the, ring the bell and they immediately jump sideways in front of me. I had a guy jump right into me on the Yarra path. I stopped, he flew. Change of momentum thing I 'spose. Hmmm... Pedestrian Croquet, a ne sport -- Bikesoiler |
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"Marx" == Marx SS writes:
Marx My theory is that people generally do not walk around very Marx often anymore & therefore lose the cognitive skills of being Marx aware of what’s about them when they do go for a walk. You're not wrong. I work out of the Australia Post building and the Victorian Police Centre, opposite ends of the CBD and a nice 25 minute walk (10 minutes by bike grin). The other day I had to do some work with a colleague who operates almost exclusively out of 321. He just about had heart failure by the end of our journey. I asked him if he ever walked anywhere. "From the office to the car park normally, that's about it." Fairly typical these days :-( -- Cheers Euan |
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"Tamyka" == Tamyka Bell writes:
Tamyka I have given myself two days to calm down about this, but Tamyka now I have to say it. Tamyka Now, I hate dumb pedestrians as much as the next cyclist Tamyka (note, "dumb" not "all" or even "ignorant" pedestrians) but Tamyka what is with that hurry seen in the Coro Drive bike path Tamyka users? Yep, peak hour, it's slow, pedestrians get in the Tamyka way. Deal with it. You know you won't be able to stay at Tamyka 30km/h the whole trip. Don't pretend otherwise. snip Totally agree with you Tamyka, however IMO pedestrians and cyclists mix less well than cars and bicycles. Bicycles are vehicles and belong on the road. I'd trust my safety to motorists over pedestrians any day. -- Cheers Euan |
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hippy wrote:
"Marx SS" In my time riding around I've come to the conclusion that up against any other path user, I come out as the 2nd class citizen (therefore I take to the grass etc). We are second-class citizens.. in their minds. I try to reduce possible conflict by slowing, riding around, etc. Just think of all the benefits you can get from not just maintaining 30kph all the way home.. - braking - standing starts - sprintervals - trackstand practise - use the breaks in flow to try wheelies :-) - take your road bike off-road - they still work ya know! hippy - positivity in usenet may not reflect reality ;-) Good ideas. Personally I'm finally making a bit of progress with my life's ambition of being able to mono on my roadie -- Nick |
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Tamyka Bell wrote:
....snip.... Interesting that they would rather you ring a bell at them than politely ask them to move. Is this related to nationality? In my experience, older people from UK seem to squark about bell, but everyone who hears the bell seems to give room. I see it as sort of "pedestrian training". |
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"Marx SS" wrote in
message My theory is that people generally do not walk around very often anymore & therefore lose the cognitive skills of being aware of what’s about them when they do go for a walk. Watching old b/w movies from the turn of the century you see people look this way & that because horse-drawn vehicles didn’t stop as fast etc – pedestrians had no choice really. The law gives pedestrians priority over everyone else. Ergo, pedestrians don't need their brains. -- A: Top-posters. Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet? |
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DRS Wrote: The law gives pedestrians priority over everyone else. Ergo pedestrians don't need their brains. Does it really? in B+W i mean? Surely there must be some form of precedent if its a 'shared' path. Wont surprise me if its not, but hey one can dream Altho, must admit i seem to avoid most offroad paths these days. th stretch (Anniversary trial?) between East Canterbury Station an Whitehorse rd is just too god to ignore tho.. -- flyingdutch |
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