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Senior Olympics
"Joe Keenan" wrote in message om... Major snippage Ed Dolan wrote:" No, I am a true hermit. I will look upon the fair sex from afar and dream my dreams." Major snippage Yo Ed, Before you get on your high horse (bad pun for Mr. Ed) about snippage, don't even begin to lecture me about usenettiquette with what you've done to these threads. Because you're one for exactitude, refer to yourself as you truly are on this forum: A misfit. You're not a hermit. A hermit withdraws from society and lives in seclusion whereas a misfit is one who is unable to adjust to one's environment or circumstances or is considered to be disturbingly different from others. If you were a hermit, you wouldn't be here. However, as a misfit you're doing an outstanding job. Slow Joe Recumbo I am only on two threads at the present, although others keep proliferating these two threads by changing the subject headings. But even so, I am not in any way interfering with on topic posting. I once went almost 5 years without hardly speaking to a soul, other than a few amenities here and there. I think that qualifies me to consider myself a hermit. Even now, I hardly have much contact with anyone. I have always preferred my own company to anyone else's. But this is not for the weak of heart. In order to be able to do this, you have to develop a sterling character that you can live with. Otherwise, severe psychiatric problems could easily ensue. -- Regards, Ed Dolan - Minnesota |
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"Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... Edward Dolan wrote: "Child" wrote in message ... ... Was Scott here when you got here? Scott was a very fun person to debate with. He almost convinced me that women's lib has made women's lives worse... I think Scott (of Arizona?) has left this group for greener pastures elsewhere, mainly because of me I am afraid. We could never see eye to eye on anything under the sun. He left in disgust because he could not counter my arguments (but who the hell can). However, if he was not in favor of women's lib, then I think we would finally have found something we could agree on.... Yet again, Mr. Ed can not keep alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent participants straight. Beth is referring to Scott “Freewheeling” [1] who has a V-Rex with a Rohloff hub, while Mr. Ed is thinking of "Roknutz" Scott who lives in the Sierra Nevada mountains in southern California and has a Tour Easy and a GTT that he rides with his wife Jodi. [1] http://demosophia.typepad.com/about.html. -- Tom Sherman – Quad City Area I always defer to Mr. Tom in these matters as he is the archivist of the group. If everyone here would use a proper FULL name instead of these confounded first names only and other monikers, maybe I could keep the lot of you straight. -- Regards, Ed Dolan - Minnesota |
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"Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... Mr. Ed wrote: "Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... Over your head, Mr. Ed! [Zing] It was most likely way under my head, Mr. Tom! [Plop] Plop like this [1], Mr. Ed? [1] http://www.wrightguide.com/media/IM000942.JPG. You don't think I would be dumb enough to check that out do you? -- Regards, Ed Dolan - Minnesota |
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Hydrocarbons
"Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... That is assuming it is really dwindling in the first place, the problem is and has always been finding the stuff and getting it out. For instance Russia has far more reserves than the arab countries but the development has been limited and existing equipment is far behind the times. Canada oddly enough has even bigger reserves but it has been expensive to extract, we've only scratched the surface in deep water exploration. As always its merely a question of time, innovation and money, I've been hearing this "we're running out of oil" garbage for 30+ years now Discoveries of new oil fields peaked over 30 years ago. True but part of the reason is because of the sheer size of the fields discovered. Much of the problem with discovery and exploration isn't that new fields do not exist but that it is too expensive at the time to recover it, this was once the case with the North Sea and Gulf of Mexico but as time goes on technology prevailed and it became cost effective Saudi Arabia and Shell have both recently admitted that they significantly overstated their oil reserves. Mostly because of arcane methods of accounting http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3524438.stm Indonesia may drop out of OPEC, as it has become a net oil importer. True but read why (at the very bottom) http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/040713/energ...sia_oil_1.html Production is declining in the North Sea fields. True except for Denmark Production is declining in the primary oil field in China. Maybe not http://www.thestandard.com.hk/thesta...515&intcatid=2 No new oil fields have been discovered (worldwide) in over 1-1/2 years. Remember that many attempts [1] at future discoveries are hampered or stopped by the stupidity of certain political figures [2] for purely political reasons even when members of their own party in that area support it [3] http://www.enn.com/news/wire-stories.../reu_48920.asp [1] Alaska [2] Tom Daschle [3] Govenor, legislature and Union leaders in Alaska Demand for oil is rapidly increasing in India and China, which have 1/3 of the world's population. Yup New oil reserves are being created at an insignificant rate (if at all) compared to extraction. Tell that to Iran http://www.iranexpert.com/2004/oilfield5july.htm And Canada http://www.geotimes.org/mar03/NN_canada.html And Nigeria (even in the middle of a civil war) http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/3712265.stm The marketplace will decide the outcome as it always has, in my opinion we've only scratched the surface with exploration but that remains to be seen, the market is already starting to adapt with hybrid cars meaning that instead of complaining about gas guzzling SUV's running bikes off the road you'll be complaining about even more Ford Escape hybrids http://www.fordvehicles.com/escapehy...dex.asp?bhjs=0 People in the US live in denial. No some of us just tend to be more optimistic than others, and again I've heard this bilge for 30+ years since the first arab oil embargo in the early 70's. Its a simple process that has happened over and over again. Email me in another 20 years and we'll see who was right. 1. Production slows as fields age 2. Oil prices go up 3. Oil discovery increases because its now more cost effective 4. Production increase because of #4 5. Prices stabilize and in many cases go down 6. Goto 1 |
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Hydrocarbons (was: Senior Olympics)
"Edward Dolan" wrote in message ... As always its merely a question of time, innovation and money, I've been hearing this "we're running out of oil" garbage for 30+ years now But still Mother Nature is not making any more of it Really? Since when? Mother Nature is making it all the time, oil isn't just old dinosaurs rotting away http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/sec...Occurrence.asp http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon/documents/newoil.html and it is becoming increasing hard to find and extract. If the Middle East is not able to keep up with the world's demand (ever increasing year by year) that will be something new under the sun for this generation. That was part of the problem in the late 70's and early 80's however no OPEC doesn't have the clout to rule the market like it once had which is why what it does these days doesn't have as much effect on the market I don't think drilling under the Antarctic ice cap will ever be feasible. Why? At one time it wasn't feasible to drill in the harsh North Sea, Siberia or even in the Gulf of Mexico. All it takes is a few innovative mavericks who think it can be done It may be that we are already at the limits of what can be gotten at a reasonable cost. For now, the world runs on oil, but that is going to have to change someday, maybe sooner than we think. No doubt just as we evolved from horse to steam to oil power we'll move on to something else. I personally is/was hoping for nuclear Just not as soon as other appear to want, then again it never happens that way on any issue |
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Edward Dolan wrote:
"Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... Mr. Ed wrote: "Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... Over your head, Mr. Ed! [Zing] It was most likely way under my head, Mr. Tom! [Plop] Plop like this [1], Mr. Ed? [1] http://www.wrightguide.com/media/IM000942.JPG. You don't think I would be dumb enough to check that out do you? This is nor rec.bicycles.racing where someone would hide "goatse" or "tubgirl" in a tinyurl [tm] link. -- Tom Sherman – Quad City Area |
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Hydrocarbons (was: Senior Olympics)
"Mark Leuck" wrote in message news:aqaRc.89985$8_6.67242@attbi_s04... "Edward Dolan" wrote in message ... As always its merely a question of time, innovation and money, I've been hearing this "we're running out of oil" garbage for 30+ years now But still Mother Nature is not making any more of it Really? Since when? Mother Nature is making it all the time, oil isn't just old dinosaurs rotting away http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/sec...Occurrence.asp http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon/documents/newoil.html Well, Hells Bells! If it is not known for sure what is the origin of oil, then all bets are off. I learned in college geology that oil was the result of rotting vegetation and other organic matter from previous geological eras that had become compressed over eons of time. Not much of that going on today, is there? But if oil comes from deep within the mantel of the earth and is inorganic ... ? -- Regards, Ed Dolan - Minnesota |
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"Edward Dolan" wrote in message news I don't know if we have time for more than one. I am no spring chicken. And we can't afford for me to stay home, but we can afford to have mike to stay home. so that answers that dillemma. My parents did not get married until your age (36) because the Great Depression prevented it (nobody had any money). My mother had three children and so can you if that is what you want. You have lots of time and you will be a good parent because you have acquired maturity as had my mother. That makes all the difference. Your children will be lucky to have mature parents. I agree about maturity being a good thing for parenting - i would have made a horrible parent at 20. Although some of my late parent friends are the most overindulgent parents ever - rearing some spoiled brats from hell. I will not raise a brat All you ever really had was a prolonged adolescence. Time to grow up now and be an adult. I love my prolonged adolescence - i have been very lucky to have such a great, responsibility free time until now. Think of it as a separate life. Now you are entering another 2nd life, and if you are lucky and live a long time you will eventually enter a 3rd life. You would not want to continue any longer with your carefree life. Having cares will connect you with all of humanity. Being carefree has its high points, Eddie! |
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"Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... Mr. Ed wrote: "Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... Over your head, Mr. Ed! [Zing] It was most likely way under my head, Mr. Tom! [Plop] Plop like this [1], Mr. Ed? [1] http://www.wrightguide.com/media/IM000942.JPG. -- Tom, where do you find these damn pictures? |
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Hydrocarbons (was: Senior Olympics)
"Edward Dolan" wrote in message ... "Mark Leuck" wrote in message news:aqaRc.89985$8_6.67242@attbi_s04... "Edward Dolan" wrote in message ... As always its merely a question of time, innovation and money, I've been hearing this "we're running out of oil" garbage for 30+ years now But still Mother Nature is not making any more of it Really? Since when? Mother Nature is making it all the time, oil isn't just old dinosaurs rotting away http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/sec...Occurrence.asp http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon/documents/newoil.html Well, Hells Bells! If it is not known for sure what is the origin of oil, then all bets are off. I learned in college geology that oil was the result of rotting vegetation and other organic matter from previous geological eras that had become compressed over eons of time. Not much of that going on today, is there? But if oil comes from deep within the mantel of the earth and is inorganic ... ? Oil IS rotting vegetation and animal matter however since thats been around for eons I'm pretty sure we can find more of it Like I said, wait another 20 years and see what happens, history so far has been on my side of this |
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