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Basso: 'I have had no contact from any judge, investigator, the UCI'
in message . com, Smokey
') wrote: wrote: What I find strange about this affair, is that the documents were only delivered on Friday, just in time to really screw everthing up. Couldn't they have been ready a week ago ? My sentiments exactly. It seemed as though they timed this to get the maximum sensationalistic exposure. Anyone want to bet that they had this stuff well in advance of the tour? You don't have to bet. It's history. They had this stuff in May. -- (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/ Morning had broken, and there was nothing we could do but wait patiently for the RAC to arrive. |
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Basso: 'I have had no contact from any judge, investigator, the UCI'
On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 10:44:16 +0100, Simon Brooke
wrote: in message . com, Smokey ') wrote: wrote: What I find strange about this affair, is that the documents were only delivered on Friday, just in time to really screw everthing up. Couldn't they have been ready a week ago ? My sentiments exactly. It seemed as though they timed this to get the maximum sensationalistic exposure. Anyone want to bet that they had this stuff well in advance of the tour? You don't have to bet. It's history. They had this stuff in May. Right, they knew it was coming, if they were inocent they had all the time they needed to fight it off instead of signing false reps and hoping it would just go away. Ullrich robbed me of 10 years of rooting for a dope "pun intended", may he rot in hell ! |
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Basso: 'I have had no contact from any judge, investigator, the UCI'
On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 10:41:49 +0100, Simon Brooke
wrote: If, after all this, either or both is found to be innocent, are you going to say 'sorry, lads, no offence meant'? Why would I? I'm no more than a spectator, and, besides, being from the U.S., would say "no offense". However, it is what it is. People are each making decisions from their point of view and best interests. If you don't want to be in that position, you don't hand people the reason to make the decision in the first place. **** happens. Sometimes a world champion watches a team dissolve around him for things that happen before he arrived. How many people are crying about Astarloa's run of bad luck beyond his control? His lost opportunities? Part of the sport. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... |
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Basso: 'I have had no contact from any judge, investigator, the UCI'
in 511158 20060703 114646 Keith wrote:
Ullrich robbed me of 10 years of rooting for a dope "pun intended", may he rot in hell ! So sue him. |
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Basso: 'I have had no contact from any judge, investigator, the UCI'
On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 11:01:14 GMT, Bob Martin
wrote: in 511158 20060703 114646 Keith wrote: Ullrich robbed me of 10 years of rooting for a dope "pun intended", may he rot in hell ! So sue him. I think you're missing the point, besides he may have other fish to fry at this point, as well as reflect on the shame that will follow him for the rest of his life, unlike his nemesis LA who not only thrashed him over the years but came out clean ! |
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Basso: 'I have had no contact from any judge, investigator, the UCI'
Sandy wrote: h squared a écrit : Sandy wrote: And I am going to watch, anyway. I watched the World Cup, after all. i tried to watch but don't think i'll continue. watching makes me depressed, so what's the point of that? heather I guess US viewers have had little interest since (not) qualifying. Here, we were in the streets until 3AM. -- Bonne route ! Sandy Verneuil-sur-Seine FR The really amazing thing isn't how much my wife and I miss living in Europe, but how much the kids miss it and want to go back. They largely grew up there, and we keep in touch through friends and family. My sister-in-law and her son who are both dual citizens usually go back to Paris for the summers where she teaches courses and gives seminars. Being associated with several universities is a great thing for her. Just wish we could work something out since we've been asked to come back to help out with everything from the Tour of Germany on down. Someday after the kids are all in college maybe we'll be able to go back and stay again. Best to all of you! I wish I felt as good about Germany's chances as I do France's though. I'm afraid Italy has our number. Bill C |
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Basso: 'I have had no contact from any judge, investigator, the UCI'
h squared wrote:
no, i meant watching the tour makes me depressed, not the world cup You know, I wondered how I'd feel in watching but when I flipped on the TV yesterday afternoon it seemed pretty normal. Of course, the early flat stages are interesting for completely different reasons than, say, the stages in the second and third weeks. |
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Basso: 'I have had no contact from any judge, investigator, theUCI'
Robert Chung wrote:
h squared wrote: no, i meant watching the tour makes me depressed, not the world cup You know, I wondered how I'd feel in watching but when I flipped on the TV yesterday afternoon it seemed pretty normal. Of course, the early flat stages are interesting for completely different reasons than, say, the stages in the second and third weeks. my bf still watches, so it's on when i'm around, and you're right, it seems pretty normal so far. i don't think i'm depressed because the tour isn't going to be as good as i was expecting. i think i'm just unwilling to get involved with any more bike racers. (if i'm going to enjoy something like the tour, i need to pay attention to the people i think may win it and learn something about them. i need to care. else it's like watching chess- then one isn't interested in the pieces, more the game itself and i have never been a big fan of watching chess. i don't have the brains for tactics- i need human interest even if i hate those stupid human interest stories.) it was ok when someone could be booted for doping, unpleasant but i could deal with it. but now they can be booted for being under investigation of doping. maybe they'll deserve it in the end, i dunno, but every time i watch it's like this little annoying prick in the the back of my mind, and i can't care who does well anymore, when at any minute they could be thrown out for being under investigation. i want to care but i can't, it's just too painful. what can i say, i'm overly dramatic... dumbass |
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Basso: 'I have had no contact from any judge, investigator, the UCI'
On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 13:53:20 -0400, Alex Rodriguez
wrote: If they have DNA results, why bother with dog names in the press? Pretty stupid. Unless they have releases permitting the use of previously collected blood or other samples for the purpose of DNA matching, it is unlikely they have matched on the basis of DNA yet. Since Ullrich's effective refusal so far seems to be a discussion topic, it would appear that such permission was not given prior to the Fuentes case and at least some have not done so since. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... |
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