Magilla: What is your position on Italian babes with cold sores?

On Oct 11, 11:56 am, MagillaGorilla wrote:
Michael Press wrote:
In article ,
MagillaGorilla wrote:

Howard Kveck wrote:

In article , MagillaGorilla wrote:

In all sports with decades of competitive history - track & field,
weightlifting, swimming - the athletes from the 1960's and 1970's would
get their ass kicked by today's elite athletes in those very same sports.

What makes you think that the athletes of earlier eras are any different
phyiscally from athletes of today? The big difference, it seems to me, are training
methods and nutrition. The things that allow an athlete to ge the most out of
themselves... I'd think that if one of those athletes was transferred to today and
had time to grow up and the chance to train like they do now (to make it as "equal" a
comparison as possible), they'd be just as effective and fast as present day
athletes. Yeah, it's all very Quantum Leap, but I think you've missed this aspect of
the impossible-to-prove cross generational jock comparison.

All you Merckx lovers crack me up.

We're not talking about hypotheticals here

Yes, we are. You are. Try to deny it.
I'll just slip back in the barca lounger
while you work out this one.

because to engage in such a
conversation would be frivolous and inaccurate. What I'm saying is if
you took Eddy Merckx in his prime in 1969 and put him in today's
peloton, he wouldn't be riding off the front like he did when he rode
against Snow Valley factory workers of the 1960's.

This comparison can be objectivbely done simply by looking at average
speeds and doing wattage calculations.

I'm not saying Merckx wouldn't be a pro-level rider today. All I'm
saying is he wouldn't be riding off the front today like he did in the
1960's. Given the specialization of sprinters and Tour riders in
today's pro peloton, it's pretty obvious Merckx - an all-arounder -
would likely be just another rider on T-Mobile if he rode today.

And he'd probably be a major doper today given that he doped in the 1960's.

Take that all you Merckx lovers.

Eddy Merckx was a champion. He was a champion in 1970.
He is a champion today. He would be a champion in any age.
I left out some verb conjugations, but you get the idea.
Rhetoric thrives on repetition, but only the right amount.

Does that logic also apply to Keith Partridge?

There's two types of people on this Earth. There's the type that thinks
that EVERY ****ING THING and PERSON that existed over 30 years ago was
superior than what occurs today, and then there's the people who know
the truth.

You left out a category:
- those that think that everything done now is better than what was
done in the past.
That's the narcissism, or Zoloftism, of the present day.

R

MagillaGorilla wrote:

There's two types of people on this Earth. There's the type that
thinks that EVERY ****ING THING and PERSON that existed over 30 years
ago was superior than what occurs today, and then there's the people
who know the truth.

You mean like this guy:

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/33402

--
Bill Asher

RicodJour wrote:

On Oct 11, 11:56 am, MagillaGorilla wrote:

Michael Press wrote:

In article ,
MagillaGorilla wrote:

Howard Kveck wrote:

In article , MagillaGorilla wrote:

In all sports with decades of competitive history - track & field,
weightlifting, swimming - the athletes from the 1960's and 1970's would
get their ass kicked by today's elite athletes in those very same sports.

What makes you think that the athletes of earlier eras are any different
phyiscally from athletes of today? The big difference, it seems to me, are training
methods and nutrition. The things that allow an athlete to ge the most out of
themselves... I'd think that if one of those athletes was transferred to today and
had time to grow up and the chance to train like they do now (to make it as "equal" a
comparison as possible), they'd be just as effective and fast as present day
athletes. Yeah, it's all very Quantum Leap, but I think you've missed this aspect of
the impossible-to-prove cross generational jock comparison.

All you Merckx lovers crack me up.

We're not talking about hypotheticals here

Yes, we are. You are. Try to deny it.
I'll just slip back in the barca lounger
while you work out this one.

because to engage in such a
conversation would be frivolous and inaccurate. What I'm saying is if
you took Eddy Merckx in his prime in 1969 and put him in today's
peloton, he wouldn't be riding off the front like he did when he rode
against Snow Valley factory workers of the 1960's.

This comparison can be objectivbely done simply by looking at average
speeds and doing wattage calculations.

I'm not saying Merckx wouldn't be a pro-level rider today. All I'm
saying is he wouldn't be riding off the front today like he did in the
1960's. Given the specialization of sprinters and Tour riders in
today's pro peloton, it's pretty obvious Merckx - an all-arounder -
would likely be just another rider on T-Mobile if he rode today.

And he'd probably be a major doper today given that he doped in the 1960's.

Take that all you Merckx lovers.

Eddy Merckx was a champion. He was a champion in 1970.
He is a champion today. He would be a champion in any age.
I left out some verb conjugations, but you get the idea.
Rhetoric thrives on repetition, but only the right amount.

Does that logic also apply to Keith Partridge?

There's two types of people on this Earth. There's the type that thinks
that EVERY ****ING THING and PERSON that existed over 30 years ago was
superior than what occurs today, and then there's the people who know
the truth.


You left out a category:
- those that think that everything done now is better than what was
done in the past.
That's the narcissism, or Zoloftism, of the present day.

R


The next thing you're going to tell me is computers from the 1960's that
took up an entire room were just as powerful and fast as the computers
of today.

The fact is - everything done today is better than the past at thhe
elite level. Everything. Especially athletics.

Do you think Don Meredith would make an NFL team if he tried out today?
Do you think Margaret Court or Chris Evert would even take 1 game off
Serene Williams if she came to the U.S. Open?

I hate everyone in here because you're all so ****ing stupid.

Name 1 track star from the 1960's who is faster - in ANY event - than
the track stars of today. Name one. Not even two, just one.

Name 1 weight lifter from the 1960's who is stronger - in ANY event -
than the weightlifters of today. One.

Name 1 swimmer - male or female from the 1960's who is faster - in ANY
event - than the elite swimmers of today. One.

Now answer those same questions and substitue 1970 for 1960 and see if
it changes. Then use 1980, and tell me if that matters. See my ****ing
point?

Yet all you JACKASSES IN HERE will have me believe Eddy "I was great in
1968" Merckx was different. Even though his hour record (set at
altitude, mind you) wouldn't even stand up today against the likes of
Christina Boardman....and we know Eddy wouldn't be dropping Lance on
climbs.

Eddy was great in 1960, I agree. But 1960 was an era when all sports
were quite shallow in competition COMPARED TO TODAY.

If Eddy rode today, he'd be just another guy on T-Mobile named in the
Operacion Puerto dossier.

The only exeption to this rule is rock guitarists and music. Rock stars
and bands from the 1980's were much better than the fakes in 1990's and
2000. That's obvious though. Same with actors.

Take that all you Hillary Duff fans.


Take care,


Magilla

In article ,
Michael Press wrote:

In article
,
Ryan Cousineau wrote:

In article ,
"Carl Sundquist" wrote:

"MagillaGorilla" wrote in message
...

That's just another reason why Lance and most pros don't even bother
with
these idiotic records. Pretty soon riders will want to fly to the
****ing
moon and do the hour in 1/6 gravity with no atmosphere just so they
could
ride over 150 km in a goddamn spacesuit.

All these records are meaningless because there is no standard and
factors
such as altitude, air temperature, humidity make a huge difference.

Magilla

Can I give you a suggestion? In your efforts to sustain your threads (I
know, you didn't start this one), after a couple of replies you start to
become disjointed, unraveling more and more from there. Stick to making
an
outlandish statement or two, then move on to the next thread.

In a stage race metaphor, you barely make it to the first mountain stages
before you're toast. Like Boardman, you're better as a prologue
specialist.

In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls.

In rbt, we coach them.

It's time to change your signature quotation.

Actually, I added the obvious sig, but found this in my alternate sigs
pile instead.

--
Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"My scenarios may give the impression I could be an excellent crook.
Not true - I am a talented lawyer." - Sandy in rec.bicycles.racing

In article ,
Donald Munro wrote:

Michael Press wrote:
And Magilla has The Truth, same as some
backwoods, bible-thumping, mountebank.
Well, almost the same. The mountebank
has the Word of God. Magilla has his
prodigious appetite for bananas.

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"My scenarios may give the impression I could be an excellent crook.
Not true - I am a talented lawyer." - Sandy in rec.bicycles.racing

"MagillaGorilla" wrote in message
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Eddy was great in 1960, I agree. But 1960 was an era when all sports
were quite shallow in competition COMPARED TO TODAY.

If Eddy rode today, he'd be just another guy on T-Mobile named in the
Operacion Puerto dossier.

Magilla

Pappy started this one...

http://tinyurl.com/38bjw8

At the time, I upgraded Merckx to Cat-1, and was generally conservative
about what his status might be in the pro ranks today.

On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:52:17 -0400, MagillaGorilla
wrote:

Kyle Legate wrote:

MagillaGorilla wrote:

Ryan Cousineau wrote:


You're one of these people who has built a delusional foundation in
their mind that Merckx could ride off the front in today's
peloton...but anyone who follows the spport closely knows Merckx
wouldn't even be top 10 in the Tour de France if he rode today.

Merckx was simply better than his competitors - that doesn't tell us
anything about how great he was unless we take a close look at WHO he
was beating. We do know his competitors were nowhere near as good as
the riders are today.

Your insistence on comparing riders of the past with riders of today is
completely without merit. Do you think if Eddy Merckx raced today he
would eschew modern training methods for his approach of riding across
Belgium and then sleeping on the train on way back? Nonsense. In the era
of specialization Eddy wouldn't be as dominant as he was in his day, but
he would be better at the races he targets than any rider currently
riding, all training methods and nutritional advances being equal. His
natural talent was likely greater than Lance's and he had equal focus on
winning. He would still be the Cannibal.


If Eddy Merckx trained today and used modern European training methods,
his dog's name would appear in the Operacion Puerto dossier.

Or, he'd win 7 Tours, 4 Giros and 3 Vueltas, nobody'd ever prove anything but
hurt themselves hating him. There'd be headlines in l'Equippe and a million
frothing laffertys and still he'd keep winning.

It really is just as plausible.

Ron

Michael Press wrote:
It's time to change your signature quotation.

Ryan Cousineau wrote:
Actually, I added the obvious sig, but found this in my alternate sigs
pile instead.
My scenarios may give the impression I could be an excellent crook.
Not true - I am a talented lawyer." - Sandy in rec.bicycles.racing

Sandy was just channeling Ben Franklin in the time honoured rbr
tradition.

"Carl Sundquist" wrote in message
...

"MagillaGorilla" wrote in message
...

I love reading your stuff. Hopefully you'll keep it up because you
emphasis the true ignorance here. Tell me - why do you believe that
ANYONE cares what Lance is doing?


That girl at the Tour de Georgia who appeared on "The Lance Chronicles"
who cried and whined outside the Postal team bus cares.

So do all the Livestrong bracelet wearers, which is a large majority of
people in here.


Boardman,

You could tell 80% of the bracelet wearers that Armstrong won RAAM, the
American version of the Tour, seven times and they would puff out their
chests in pride.

Are you implying he didn't?

Fred

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