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  #251  
Old March 8th 09, 05:31 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Paul G.
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On Mar 7, 5:19*pm, Fred Fredburger
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John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
But on the fundamental framing of political debate, the right (places
like NewsMax, people) is what he follows. *


The right was winning the newsbite war on "bipartisanship" and they've
got Bill on that one. *It's typical.


Too broad. Use examples. Gwen Ifill's predicted treatment of Sarah Palin
and its subsequent failure to materialize as Fox opined is one example.
You know others. Don't assert a pattern, establish it.

It probably wont matter, but it's better than name calling.


Yeah, I'm not so sure they are winning. They make an amazing amount of
noise, but...:

"An NBC/Wall Street Journal poll this past week put Republican
popularity at near historic lows. Just 26 percent in the survey viewed
the party positively, compared with 68 percent for President Barack
Obama, despite the economic crisis and sharp GOP criticism of his $3.8
trillion budget plan.

Republicans trailed by more than a 30-point margin on the question of
which party is best positioned to end the recession."

The Republicans are doing for their party what they've done for Iraq
and the USA.
-Paul
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  #252  
Old March 8th 09, 06:55 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Fred Fredburger
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Bill C wrote:

Let's try a little honesty Fred. I thought that interview would be an
ambush as many others were.


You thought it because Fox told you to think it. There was no reasonable
evidence to support that fear. "She's black and she's writing a book
about black politicians". That, plus a bunch of hyperbolic Fox/right
wing blog crap, and you were hooked.

Yeah, you admitted you were wrong later. that's a big plus.

Maybe there's a counter-example of you getting hooked by Keith
Olbermann. Could be.
  #253  
Old March 8th 09, 06:59 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Fred Fredburger
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Bill C wrote:

Gotta drag everyone down into the same cesspool to preserve their
superiority to everyone else so they can mock them, crush their souls,
call their homes ********s, etc...


Well, yeah. All I can say is that it's RBR. Doesn't EVERYONE act that
way? I'll grant that there's a difference between Magilla and Tom, who
are just trying to stir things up, and those who take themselves seriously.
  #254  
Old March 8th 09, 08:32 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Donald Munro[_3_]
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Bill C wrote:
Gotta drag everyone down into the same cesspool to preserve their
superiority to everyone else so they can mock them, crush their souls,
call their homes ********s, etc...


Don't knock cesspools, for all we know early life evolved in
a cesspool.
  #255  
Old March 8th 09, 09:28 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Tom Kunich
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"Donald Munro" wrote in message
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Bill C wrote:
Gotta drag everyone down into the same cesspool to preserve their
superiority to everyone else so they can mock them, crush their souls,
call their homes ********s, etc...


Don't knock cesspools, for all we know early life evolved in
a cesspool.


You always have to drag your family into these discussions.

  #256  
Old March 8th 09, 10:00 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
John Forrest Tomlinson
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On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:55:12 -0700, Fred Fredburger
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Bill C wrote:

Let's try a little honesty Fred. I thought that interview would be an
ambush as many others were.


You thought it because Fox told you to think it. There was no reasonable
evidence to support that fear. "She's black and she's writing a book
about black politicians". That, plus a bunch of hyperbolic Fox/right
wing blog crap, and you were hooked.

Yeah, you admitted you were wrong later. that's a big plus.

Maybe there's a counter-example of you getting hooked by Keith
Olbermann. Could be.


My point is not disagreeing with Bill's polticis (thought I do). It's
that he doesn't understand his own politics. If he would just admit
how right-wing he is, things would be a lot simpler.
  #257  
Old March 8th 09, 10:25 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Donald Munro[_3_]
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Bill C wrote:
Gotta drag everyone down into the same cesspool to preserve their
superiority to everyone else so they can mock them, crush their souls,
call their homes ********s, etc...


Donald Munro wrote:
Don't knock cesspools, for all we know early life evolved in a cesspool.


Tom Kunich wrote:
You always have to drag your family into these discussions.


You're just jealous cos SchwartzSoft are too cheapskate to
upgrade you to use genetic algorithms.

And if you were human your family would be my family right back to
the cambrian inarticulate brachiopods.
  #258  
Old March 8th 09, 10:46 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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And if you were human your family would be my family right back to
the cambrian inarticulate brachiopods.


Imagine you believing you're human. While I was putting in 45 miles today
what were you doing? Eating ****?


  #259  
Old March 9th 09, 02:18 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Paul G.
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On Mar 8, 10:55*am, Fred Fredburger
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You thought it because Fox told you to think it.


I'm always wondering why these people are yammering on about something
that seems strange to me- like Scott complaining about the drop in the
Dow *since Obama took office*. We're in a severe recession that's over
a year old. Obama's only been in office a few weeks. 80% of the drop
in the Dow occurred before Obama took office, so how is this his
fault?

Then I watch the Daily Show and they are showing clips of the
propaganda Fox, Limbaugh et al are spewing. Ah, so that's where these
losers get these absurd ideas.

"You thought it because Fox told you to think it." Exactly.
-Paul


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Old March 9th 09, 09:03 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Donald Munro[_3_]
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Donald Munro wrote:
And if you were human your family would be my family right back to the
cambrian inarticulate brachiopods.


Tom Kunich wrote:
Imagine you believing you're human. While I was putting in 45 miles today
what were you doing? Eating ****?


123Km starting with warmup followed by 3x15min at just under
threshold followed by distance at a bit of tempo and
lots of endurance pace.

Which is why I missed the Paris-Nice prologue.

 




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