Stephanie McIlvain Hates Lance

By Lance Pugmire
Los Angeles Times
September 21, 2010
11:40 p.m.


Lance Armstrong for years has denied allegations that he confessed to
cancer doctors about using performance-enhancing drugs.

The allegations, never proved, did not diminish the seven-time Tour de
France winner as he built his sporting legend beyond cycling to become a
leader in the fight against cancer and inspiring trust and hope through
his "Livestrong" foundation.

Now, one of his close associates, Stephanie McIlvain, has been summoned
to appear before a federal grand jury in Los Angeles on Wednesday to
clarify what he said to those doctors. McIlvain, a longtime liaison to
Armstrong for Oakley Inc., one of his major sponsors, was there.

In a 2005 deposition in an unrelated civil case, McIlvain testified she
never heard Armstrong admit anything about using performance-enhancing
drugs in that hospital room in 1996.

In a secretly recorded telephone chat with former Tour de France
champion Greg LeMond — allegedly conducted a year earlier — McIlvain is
asked about the hospital incident and tells LeMond she heard "it,"
though she never specifies what "it" is. The recording is in the hands
of federal prosecutors and The Times has reviewed it.

Scrutinizing McIlvain's accounts will be the focus of her scheduled
appearance in front of the grand jury, which is looking into allegations
of rampant drug use in cycling, according to a source with knowledge of
the investigation but who declined to go on the record because federal
law prohibits discussion of the secret proceedings.

The grand jury is also looking into allegations by former Armstrong
teammate Floyd Landis that Armstrong and other riders on the now-defunct
U.S. Postal Service team facilitated drug use, according to the source
and others.

Armstrong, who has not been subpoenaed, has repeatedly denied ever using
drugs.

McIlvain, in her conversation with LeMond, criticized Armstrong, who at
the time was in the midst of his record run of Tour de France titles
after overcoming cancer.

Although she doesn't specifically connect Armstrong to drug use, over
the course of the 30-minute conversation, McIlvain refers to Armstrong
as a liar but never clarifies what she accuses him of lying about.

LeMond taped McIlvain without her knowledge, but law expert Laurie
Levenson told The Times last week that single-party consent tapings are
presentable in federal cases.

"So many people protect him that it's just sickening," McIlvain told
LeMond on the tape, adding she "can't even watch" his then-run for a
sixth title. McIlvain's son has autism, and she told LeMond on the tape
it bothered her that Armstrong had been portrayed as an inspirational
athlete.

"He's giving how many people false hope?" McIlvain asked LeMond. "[It's]
the most disgusting thing ever for someone to do. Coming as someone
whose son has a handicap, you look to people for hope and strength. That
kills me."

McIlvain, who lives in Orange County, has declined to return several
messages left by The Times. Her attorney, Tom Bienert, did not return
messages Tuesday but told The Times last week that LeMond had an
"agenda" and was "attempting to get people to say things that are
incriminating."

On the tape McIlvain said of Armstrong "even his best friend" [who goes
unnamed in the recording] is aware "he's on it." She closes by saying,
"I'd love for it to come out."

The allegations that Armstrong had confessed in 1996 were first raised
by his former teammate Frankie Andreu and Andreu's wife, Betsy, who also
were in the Indianapolis hospital room. She says she repeated that
account to federal investigator Jeff Novitzky, who works for the Food
and Drug Administration and was the chief investigator in the BALCO
steroids scandal.

A member of Armstrong's legal team, Mark Fabiani, said Tuesday in an
e-mail that, "It makes no sense to waste the money of taxpayers and the
time of the FDA and the grand jury on very old issues that were long ago
fully examined. Ms. McIlvain has already testified at length under oath
in 2005, and the mythical hospital meeting has been completely disproved
by both witnesses and medical records."


http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...,2720319.story

On 9/22/2010 1:48 PM, Magilla Gorilla wrote:
By Lance Pugmire
Los Angeles Times
September 21, 2010
11:40 p.m.


Lance Armstrong for years has denied allegations that he confessed to
cancer doctors about using performance-enhancing drugs.

The allegations, never proved, did not diminish the seven-time Tour de
France winner as he built his sporting legend beyond cycling to become a
leader in the fight against cancer and inspiring trust and hope through
his "Livestrong" foundation.

Now, one of his close associates, Stephanie McIlvain, has been summoned
to appear before a federal grand jury in Los Angeles on Wednesday to
clarify what he said to those doctors. McIlvain, a longtime liaison to
Armstrong for Oakley Inc., one of his major sponsors, was there.

In a 2005 deposition in an unrelated civil case, McIlvain testified she
never heard Armstrong admit anything about using performance-enhancing
drugs in that hospital room in 1996.

In a secretly recorded telephone chat with former Tour de France
champion Greg LeMond — allegedly conducted a year earlier — McIlvain is
asked about the hospital incident and tells LeMond she heard "it,"
though she never specifies what "it" is. The recording is in the hands
of federal prosecutors and The Times has reviewed it.

Scrutinizing McIlvain's accounts will be the focus of her scheduled
appearance in front of the grand jury, which is looking into allegations
of rampant drug use in cycling, according to a source with knowledge of
the investigation but who declined to go on the record because federal
law prohibits discussion of the secret proceedings.

The grand jury is also looking into allegations by former Armstrong
teammate Floyd Landis that Armstrong and other riders on the now-defunct
U.S. Postal Service team facilitated drug use, according to the source
and others.

Armstrong, who has not been subpoenaed, has repeatedly denied ever using
drugs.

McIlvain, in her conversation with LeMond, criticized Armstrong, who at
the time was in the midst of his record run of Tour de France titles
after overcoming cancer.

Although she doesn't specifically connect Armstrong to drug use, over
the course of the 30-minute conversation, McIlvain refers to Armstrong
as a liar but never clarifies what she accuses him of lying about.

LeMond taped McIlvain without her knowledge, but law expert Laurie
Levenson told The Times last week that single-party consent tapings are
presentable in federal cases.

"So many people protect him that it's just sickening," McIlvain told
LeMond on the tape, adding she "can't even watch" his then-run for a
sixth title. McIlvain's son has autism, and she told LeMond on the tape
it bothered her that Armstrong had been portrayed as an inspirational
athlete.

"He's giving how many people false hope?" McIlvain asked LeMond. "[It's]
the most disgusting thing ever for someone to do. Coming as someone
whose son has a handicap, you look to people for hope and strength. That
kills me."

McIlvain, who lives in Orange County, has declined to return several
messages left by The Times. Her attorney, Tom Bienert, did not return
messages Tuesday but told The Times last week that LeMond had an
"agenda" and was "attempting to get people to say things that are
incriminating."

On the tape McIlvain said of Armstrong "even his best friend" [who goes
unnamed in the recording] is aware "he's on it." She closes by saying,
"I'd love for it to come out."

The allegations that Armstrong had confessed in 1996 were first raised
by his former teammate Frankie Andreu and Andreu's wife, Betsy, who also
were in the Indianapolis hospital room. She says she repeated that
account to federal investigator Jeff Novitzky, who works for the Food
and Drug Administration and was the chief investigator in the BALCO
steroids scandal.

A member of Armstrong's legal team, Mark Fabiani, said Tuesday in an
e-mail that, "It makes no sense to waste the money of taxpayers and the
time of the FDA and the grand jury on very old issues that were long ago
fully examined. Ms. McIlvain has already testified at length under oath
in 2005, and the mythical hospital meeting has been completely disproved
by both witnesses and medical records."


http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...,2720319.story

Fabio. He's da man!

The only thing that's news here is that McIlvain was summoned TODAY. That's
relevant. Everything else here is old stuff. Including your subject line.

Does anybody have a timeline someplace that shows who's been called up and
when? Obviously much of it is not known, but just as obviously much is. Such
as today's testimony by Stephanie.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA


"Magilla Gorilla" wrote in message
...
By Lance Pugmire
Los Angeles Times
September 21, 2010
11:40 p.m.


Lance Armstrong for years has denied allegations that he confessed to
cancer doctors about using performance-enhancing drugs.

The allegations, never proved, did not diminish the seven-time Tour de
France winner as he built his sporting legend beyond cycling to become a
leader in the fight against cancer and inspiring trust and hope through
his "Livestrong" foundation.

Now, one of his close associates, Stephanie McIlvain, has been summoned
to appear before a federal grand jury in Los Angeles on Wednesday to
clarify what he said to those doctors. McIlvain, a longtime liaison to
Armstrong for Oakley Inc., one of his major sponsors, was there.

In a 2005 deposition in an unrelated civil case, McIlvain testified she
never heard Armstrong admit anything about using performance-enhancing
drugs in that hospital room in 1996.

In a secretly recorded telephone chat with former Tour de France
champion Greg LeMond - allegedly conducted a year earlier - McIlvain is
asked about the hospital incident and tells LeMond she heard "it,"
though she never specifies what "it" is. The recording is in the hands
of federal prosecutors and The Times has reviewed it.

Scrutinizing McIlvain's accounts will be the focus of her scheduled
appearance in front of the grand jury, which is looking into allegations
of rampant drug use in cycling, according to a source with knowledge of
the investigation but who declined to go on the record because federal
law prohibits discussion of the secret proceedings.

The grand jury is also looking into allegations by former Armstrong
teammate Floyd Landis that Armstrong and other riders on the now-defunct
U.S. Postal Service team facilitated drug use, according to the source
and others.

Armstrong, who has not been subpoenaed, has repeatedly denied ever using
drugs.

McIlvain, in her conversation with LeMond, criticized Armstrong, who at
the time was in the midst of his record run of Tour de France titles
after overcoming cancer.

Although she doesn't specifically connect Armstrong to drug use, over
the course of the 30-minute conversation, McIlvain refers to Armstrong
as a liar but never clarifies what she accuses him of lying about.

LeMond taped McIlvain without her knowledge, but law expert Laurie
Levenson told The Times last week that single-party consent tapings are
presentable in federal cases.

"So many people protect him that it's just sickening," McIlvain told
LeMond on the tape, adding she "can't even watch" his then-run for a
sixth title. McIlvain's son has autism, and she told LeMond on the tape
it bothered her that Armstrong had been portrayed as an inspirational
athlete.

"He's giving how many people false hope?" McIlvain asked LeMond. "[It's]
the most disgusting thing ever for someone to do. Coming as someone
whose son has a handicap, you look to people for hope and strength. That
kills me."

McIlvain, who lives in Orange County, has declined to return several
messages left by The Times. Her attorney, Tom Bienert, did not return
messages Tuesday but told The Times last week that LeMond had an
"agenda" and was "attempting to get people to say things that are
incriminating."

On the tape McIlvain said of Armstrong "even his best friend" [who goes
unnamed in the recording] is aware "he's on it." She closes by saying,
"I'd love for it to come out."

The allegations that Armstrong had confessed in 1996 were first raised
by his former teammate Frankie Andreu and Andreu's wife, Betsy, who also
were in the Indianapolis hospital room. She says she repeated that
account to federal investigator Jeff Novitzky, who works for the Food
and Drug Administration and was the chief investigator in the BALCO
steroids scandal.

A member of Armstrong's legal team, Mark Fabiani, said Tuesday in an
e-mail that, "It makes no sense to waste the money of taxpayers and the
time of the FDA and the grand jury on very old issues that were long ago
fully examined. Ms. McIlvain has already testified at length under oath
in 2005, and the mythical hospital meeting has been completely disproved
by both witnesses and medical records."


http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...,2720319.story

On Sep 22, 11:57*am, BLafferty wrote:

Fabio. *He's da man!

He's a lawyer. Wouldn't you be doing the same if Lance were your
client?

Brad Anders

In article ,
Brad Anders wrote:

On Sep 22, 11:57*am, BLafferty wrote:

Fabio. *He's da man!

He's a lawyer. Wouldn't you be doing the same if Lance were your
client?

Don't you mean: "He's a lawyer. Wouldn't you be doing the same if you had any
clients?"

On Sep 22, 6:06*pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
wrote:
The only thing that's news here is that McIlvain was summoned TODAY. That's
relevant. Everything else here is old stuff. Including your subject line.

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/sep...trong-20100923

DR

On Sep 23, 3:04*pm, DirtRoadie wrote:
On Sep 22, 6:06*pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
wrote:

The only thing that's news here is that McIlvain was summoned TODAY. That's
relevant. Everything else here is old stuff. Including your subject line.

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/sep...nce-armstrong-...

DR

"Bienert said McIlvain "testified truthfully. Most of what she was
asked about was between five and 14 years old, so she didn't have the
greatest recall. But she confirmed she had no personal knowledge of
Lance Armstrong using or taking performance-enhancing drugs.""

Well, doesn't look like she changed her tune. We'll now see if she's
convicted of perjury as many here have said she will. My bet is she
won't be charged.

Brad Anders

"Brad Anders" wrote in message
...
On Sep 23, 3:04 pm, DirtRoadie wrote:
On Sep 22, 6:06 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
wrote:

The only thing that's news here is that McIlvain was summoned TODAY.
That's
relevant. Everything else here is old stuff. Including your subject
line.

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/sep...nce-armstrong-...

DR

=======
"Bienert said McIlvain "testified truthfully. Most of what she was
asked about was between five and 14 years old, so she didn't have the
greatest recall. But she confirmed she had no personal knowledge of
Lance Armstrong using or taking performance-enhancing drugs.""

Well, doesn't look like she changed her tune. We'll now see if she's
convicted of perjury as many here have said she will. My bet is she
won't be charged.

Brad Anders
========

If it's at all reasonable to charge her with perjury, they *HAVE* to. Her
situation is so well-known (the recorded conversations with BA) that her
treatment sets a standard that all others will be looking to, regarding
their own cases.

If they (the Grand Jury & prosecutor) let her walk, without challenging her,
they're nuts. The lost leverage would be extreme.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

On 9/23/2010 7:52 PM, Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
"Brad Anders" wrote in message
...
On Sep 23, 3:04 pm, DirtRoadie wrote:
On Sep 22, 6:06 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
wrote:

The only thing that's news here is that McIlvain was summoned TODAY.
That's
relevant. Everything else here is old stuff. Including your subject
line.

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/sep...nce-armstrong-...

DR

=======
"Bienert said McIlvain "testified truthfully. Most of what she was
asked about was between five and 14 years old, so she didn't have the
greatest recall. But she confirmed she had no personal knowledge of
Lance Armstrong using or taking performance-enhancing drugs.""

Well, doesn't look like she changed her tune. We'll now see if she's
convicted of perjury as many here have said she will. My bet is she
won't be charged.

Brad Anders
========

If it's at all reasonable to charge her with perjury, they *HAVE* to.
Her situation is so well-known (the recorded conversations with BA) that
her treatment sets a standard that all others will be looking to,
regarding their own cases.

If they (the Grand Jury & prosecutor) let her walk, without challenging
her, they're nuts. The lost leverage would be extreme.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

She's just ****ed off the prosecution. She will be charged. And the
AUSA has probably got a major hard on now to get Lance as well. Foolish
of her.

BLafferty wrote:
She's just ****ed off the prosecution. She will be charged. And the
AUSA has probably got a major hard on now to get Lance as well. Foolish
of her.


I'm curious. Do you think she hasn't talked to legal counsel
that is more competent than a guy like yourself that can't
find work in the profession?

Seems unlikely.

Fred Flintstein