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Old September 14th 06, 10:42 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Jonathan v.d. Sluis wrote:
Donald Munro wrote in news:45096e59$0$4260
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Kenny wrote:
You do know "to prepare" is a dangerous word in cycling?


RonSonic wrote:
First, you have to be motivated.


Super-motivated.


I thought Americans were always super-motivated because they have to work
hard and aren't given money by the government like everybody here in
Europe.


The transfers are more underhanded in the US, and the government makes
a special effort to **** the poor and the middle class the most. The
statists (nearly every knucklehead living there) in the US prefer
getting back doored to the missionary position. The US government has
convinced almost all categories of people that they are the
beneficiaries, not the victims. And so it goes on and on and on....

The politicians think it is such a great country that they won't pass
an amendment to allow succession. It is such a great country they need
to hold jurisdictions in by violent force.

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Old September 14th 06, 11:01 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Kenny wrote:
Frank Drackman schreef:


"Sonarrat" wrote in message
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Andre wrote:


Is Tom Danielson the next great American hope? He's been improving as
La Vuelta goes on.

Andre

Lance certainly seemed to think so. Realistically, though, he's the best
we have. Leipheimer is unlikely to improve any more, and Zabriskie is
unlikely to ever contend for GC. Flandis and Hamilton are basically
toast, especially considering F still has to have a hip operation even if
he's cleared to ride again.

I suppose Saul Raisin still has a chance. He's young and talented enough.


Tyler Farrar?



Definitely! but not in 3 weeks stage racing. More like a better
version of GH with a decent sprint in his legs.

Kenny


Yah, Farrar is a sprinter type. Think Allan Davis.
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Old September 14th 06, 11:18 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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"Kenny" wrote in message
oups.com...

Frank Drackman schreef:

"Sonarrat" wrote in message
...
Andre wrote:

Is Tom Danielson the next great American hope? He's been improving as
La Vuelta goes on.

Andre

Lance certainly seemed to think so. Realistically, though, he's the
best
we have. Leipheimer is unlikely to improve any more, and Zabriskie is
unlikely to ever contend for GC. Flandis and Hamilton are basically
toast, especially considering F still has to have a hip operation even
if
he's cleared to ride again.

I suppose Saul Raisin still has a chance. He's young and talented
enough.


Tyler Farrar?


Definitely! but not in 3 weeks stage racing. More like a better
version of GH with a decent sprint in his legs.


I seem to remember another American racer that was given the one day rider
only tag.


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Old September 15th 06, 01:11 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:

The politicians think it is such a great country that they won't pass
an amendment to allow succession.


No stinking amendment will help TD succeed Lance, he just needs
superduper motivation... better genes... better preparation to keep up
with the cool kids...

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Old September 15th 06, 03:37 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On 14 Sep 2006 14:42:39 -0700, "SLAVE of THE STATE" wrote:


Jonathan v.d. Sluis wrote:
Donald Munro wrote in news:45096e59$0$4260
:

Kenny wrote:
You do know "to prepare" is a dangerous word in cycling?

RonSonic wrote:
First, you have to be motivated.

Super-motivated.


I thought Americans were always super-motivated because they have to work
hard and aren't given money by the government like everybody here in
Europe.


The transfers are more underhanded in the US, and the government makes
a special effort to **** the poor and the middle class the most. The
statists (nearly every knucklehead living there) in the US prefer
getting back doored to the missionary position. The US government has
convinced almost all categories of people that they are the
beneficiaries, not the victims. And so it goes on and on and on....

The politicians think it is such a great country that they won't pass
an amendment to allow succession. It is such a great country they need
to hold jurisdictions in by violent force.


Do you maybe mean secession?

The Constitution needs no new amendment to permit a state to do whatever the
constitution does not bar it from doing. The ninth amendment already does that.
There's actual precedent on this, called the "Civil war," aka, "The War Between
the States,"aka "The Late Unpleasantness" and down where I live "The War of
Northern Agression." While bloody ****ing war was waged to prevent secession no
actual legal or constitutional case was made against it and there were no
significant prosecutions following the war. Not even one charge of treason or
even sedition.

There is nothing in the constitution that bars a state from leaving the union.
And there is not going to be another war waged to prevent it.

Ron
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Old September 15th 06, 03:37 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On 14 Sep 2006 16:05:08 GMT, "Jonathan v.d. Sluis" wrote:

Donald Munro wrote in news:45096e59$0$4260
:

Kenny wrote:
You do know "to prepare" is a dangerous word in cycling?


RonSonic wrote:
First, you have to be motivated.


Super-motivated.


I thought Americans were always super-motivated because they have to work
hard and aren't given money by the government like everybody here in
Europe.


We don't have grape preparation.

Ron
 




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