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  #41  
Old September 11th 09, 12:18 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:37:40 -0400, "Steve Freides"
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I think there can only be one
operative he Liz Hatch.


Will she dye her hair for a career move?

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Old September 11th 09, 12:30 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:37:40 -0400, "Steve Freides"
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I think there can only be one
operative he Liz Hatch.


Will she dye her hair for a career move?


Of course, wouldn't you?

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Old September 11th 09, 02:02 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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To be more clear, there are several reasons why his results could show
up as they did.

1. He's acclimated better to the stress of racing so his hct doesn't
drop;


For some reason, he is only acclimated in july, not in may.

2. He's taking iron or other allowed supplements and nutrients, maybe
even some secret, but not banned nutrient, herb, nut or berry,
ginseng, or dessicated liver;


Which was too expensive to take during the giro, perhaps.

3. He was dehydrated or had the runs.


Thankfully he didn't have that during the giro! Still, for some reason he
performed worse then, and was able to ride a better GT in july while he was
dehydrated.
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Old September 11th 09, 03:34 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Sep 11, 7:02*am, "Jonathan v.d. Sluis" wrote:
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To be more clear, there are several reasons why his results could show
up as they did.


1. He's acclimated better to the stress of racing so his hct doesn't
drop;


For some reason, he is only acclimated in july, not in may.

2. He's taking iron or other allowed supplements and nutrients, maybe
even some secret, but not banned nutrient, herb, nut or berry,
ginseng, or dessicated liver;


Which was too expensive to take during the giro, perhaps.

3. He was dehydrated or had the runs.


Thankfully he didn't have that during the giro! Still, for some reason he
performed worse then, and was able to ride a better GT in july while he was
dehydrated.


Does anyone know if LA was back in his Hyperbaric chamber during the
Tour? Oxygen therapy is perfectly legal and specifically used by
riders in part to offset the deleterious effects of prolonged
exertion on the 02 carrying capacity of the blood during an extended
competition. That could be one important factor in his test results.


Zeno
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Old September 11th 09, 03:36 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Sep 11, 8:02*am, "Jonathan v.d. Sluis" wrote:

For some reason, he is only acclimated in july, not in may.


Just like his bud Greg Lemond.
How about that.
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Old September 11th 09, 03:40 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On 11 Sep 2009 13:02:53 GMT, "Jonathan v.d. Sluis"
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wrote in
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To be more clear, there are several reasons why his results could show
up as they did.

1. He's acclimated better to the stress of racing so his hct doesn't
drop;


For some reason, he is only acclimated in july, not in may.

2. He's taking iron or other allowed supplements and nutrients, maybe
even some secret, but not banned nutrient, herb, nut or berry,
ginseng, or dessicated liver;


Which was too expensive to take during the giro, perhaps.

3. He was dehydrated or had the runs.


Thankfully he didn't have that during the giro! Still, for some reason he
performed worse then, and was able to ride a better GT in july while he was
dehydrated.


You're completely missing he point. OF COURSE, it's due to autologous
blood doping. But, because there are other (innocent) reasons, there's
no way to sanction him.


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Old September 11th 09, 03:45 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:04:06 +0200, Donald Munro
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Tom Kunich wrote:
If there's one person you can rely on it's a student working on his PhD
thesis. (eyes rolling)


Sez someone who doesn't have an undergraduate degree never mind a
postgraduate one.


Actually, many PhD candidates are good sources of information.


The problem is that many if not most PhD candidates are interested only in
obtaining that degree and they tend to focus on making a paper and couldn't
really care less about the "accuracy". All you have to do is read a group of
these thesis and it is clear as a bell.

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Old September 11th 09, 03:47 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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"Jonathan v.d. Sluis" wrote in message
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To be more clear, there are several reasons why his results could show
up as they did.

1. He's acclimated better to the stress of racing so his hct doesn't
drop;


For some reason, he is only acclimated in july, not in may.


Psst - he's in better shape then and not working so hard. What's more, look
at his face in the Giro and later in the Tour. Do you notice anything? Such
as a substantial difference in body fat?

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Old September 11th 09, 05:06 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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"Steve Freides" wrote:

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On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:37:40 -0400, "Steve Freides"
wrote:

I think there can only be one
operative he Liz Hatch.


Will she dye her hair for a career move?


Of course, wouldn't you?


I would shave my head if it helped me get, er, ahead.

Of course, that's a less dramatic thing for me to do than it once would
have been.

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Old September 11th 09, 05:20 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 07:45:38 -0700, "Tom Kunich"
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The problem is that many if not most PhD candidates are interested only in
obtaining that degree and they tend to focus on making a paper and couldn't
really care less about the "accuracy". All you have to do is read a group of
these thesis and it is clear as a bell.


It's where they get their names on their first serious papers if they
plan to make a serious career of it. Those papers follow them around
for the rest of their career, for better or worse. The ones I know -
and I still know a couple - are driving into Johns Hopkins on
Saturdays, and every other day of the week, to do the work to get it
right.

Curtis L. Russell
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