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Old July 30th 20, 07:41 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Robert Redfield, Director of the CDC, at the Buck Institute on July 14th:
“There has been another cost that we’ve seen, particularly in high schools. We’re seeing, sadly, far greater suicides now than we are deaths from COVID. We’re seeing far greater deaths from drug overdose that are above excess that we had as background than we are seeing the deaths from COVID,” Redfield said.

Looks like someone is keeping an eye on the "excess deaths" and analysing them.

Hey, Tom, now that your viewpoint has been official for more than a fortnight, do you think the resident obstructionists and bullies will apologise to you for their libellous calumnies?

Andre Jute
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On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 11:41:48 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
Robert Redfield, Director of the CDC, at the Buck Institute on July 14th:
“There has been another cost that we’ve seen, particularly in high schools. We’re seeing, sadly, far greater suicides now than we are deaths from COVID. We’re seeing far greater deaths from drug overdose that are above excess that we had as background than we are seeing the deaths from COVID,” Redfield said.

Looks like someone is keeping an eye on the "excess deaths" and analysing them.

Hey, Tom, now that your viewpoint has been official for more than a fortnight, do you think the resident obstructionists and bullies will apologise to you for their libellous calumnies?

Andre Jute
Time to kick butt


I figured this group out long ago. I can put in 20 messages about bicycle related things and they couldn't care less. There won't be a single reply unless it is something that Andrew has had a different experience with.

But they will post off subject things and then complain that I'm changing the subject. I spend my mornings listening to one or two hours of hours of lectures from the Hoover institute from people I admire such as Dr. Walter Williams or Dr. Thomas Sowell. These are people who started out correctly - they were in families that lauded achievement and Dr. Sowell got more education than anyone in his family when he graduated from the 7th grade. So he was pushed pretty hard. And his view of discrimination and economic distribution matches my own experience pretty closely. I reached a point where I didn't ask for more money I was satisfied with what I was making - it was forced upon me. When I found pay stubs showing that I had been making $233,000/yr I was astonished because I remember the job but I didn't remember the pay. By that point the job was far more important to me than the pay. Some of those jobs I would have done gratis. The cancer detection and treatment devices for instance.

How do you manage to write a book of more than 100 pages or such? I peter out and lose interest before getting much more than a short story.
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Old July 31st 20, 01:18 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Robert Redfield, CDC Director, says Tom Kunich is right. Wellthe RBT bullies apologise to him?

On 7/30/2020 6:01 PM, wrote:
On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 11:41:48 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
Robert Redfield, Director of the CDC, at the Buck Institute on July 14th:
“There has been another cost that we’ve seen, particularly in high schools. We’re seeing, sadly, far greater suicides now than we are deaths from COVID. We’re seeing far greater deaths from drug overdose that are above excess that we had as background than we are seeing the deaths from COVID,” Redfield said.

Looks like someone is keeping an eye on the "excess deaths" and analysing them.

Hey, Tom, now that your viewpoint has been official for more than a fortnight, do you think the resident obstructionists and bullies will apologise to you for their libellous calumnies?

Andre Jute
Time to kick butt


I figured this group out long ago. I can put in 20 messages about bicycle related things and they couldn't care less. There won't be a single reply unless it is something that Andrew has had a different experience with.

But they will post off subject things and then complain that I'm changing the subject. I spend my mornings listening to one or two hours of hours of lectures from the Hoover institute from people I admire such as Dr. Walter Williams or Dr. Thomas Sowell. These are people who started out correctly - they were in families that lauded achievement and Dr. Sowell got more education than anyone in his family when he graduated from the 7th grade. So he was pushed pretty hard. And his view of discrimination and economic distribution matches my own experience pretty closely. I reached a point where I didn't ask for more money I was satisfied with what I was making - it was forced upon me. When I found pay stubs showing that I had been making $233,000/yr I was astonished because I remember the job but I didn't remember the pay. By that point the job was far more important to me than the pay. Some of those jobs I would have done gratis. The cancer detection and treatment devices for instance

..

How do you manage to write a book of more than 100 pages or such? I peter out and lose interest before getting much more than a short story.


I heartily suggest you find a copy of your fellow Oakland
autodidact Eric Hoffer's _Temper Of Our Time_. It's a small
book of short essays with great wisdom and nary a wasted
word. You might well have written parts of it yourself.

Going rate is $1.45:
https://www.alibris.com/booksearch?k...&hs.x=0&hs.y=0
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Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
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Old July 31st 20, 02:24 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Robert Redfield, CDC Director, says Tom Kunich is right. Well theRBT bullies apologise to him?

On Friday, July 31, 2020 at 1:18:45 AM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/30/2020 6:01 PM, wrote:
On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 11:41:48 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
Robert Redfield, Director of the CDC, at the Buck Institute on July 14th:
“There has been another cost that we’ve seen, particularly in high schools. We’re seeing, sadly, far greater suicides now than we are deaths from COVID.. We’re seeing far greater deaths from drug overdose that are above excess that we had as background than we are seeing the deaths from COVID,†Redfield said.

Looks like someone is keeping an eye on the "excess deaths" and analysing them.

Hey, Tom, now that your viewpoint has been official for more than a fortnight, do you think the resident obstructionists and bullies will apologise to you for their libellous calumnies?

Andre Jute
Time to kick butt


I figured this group out long ago. I can put in 20 messages about bicycle related things and they couldn't care less. There won't be a single reply unless it is something that Andrew has had a different experience with.

But they will post off subject things and then complain that I'm changing the subject. I spend my mornings listening to one or two hours of hours of lectures from the Hoover institute from people I admire such as Dr. Walter Williams or Dr. Thomas Sowell. These are people who started out correctly - they were in families that lauded achievement and Dr. Sowell got more education than anyone in his family when he graduated from the 7th grade. So he was pushed pretty hard. And his view of discrimination and economic distribution matches my own experience pretty closely. I reached a point where I didn't ask for more money I was satisfied with what I was making - it was forced upon me. When I found pay stubs showing that I had been making $233,000/yr I was astonished because I remember the job but I didn't remember the pay. By that point the job was far more important to me than the pay. Some of those jobs I would have done gratis. The cancer detection and treatment devices for instance

.

How do you manage to write a book of more than 100 pages or such? I peter out and lose interest before getting much more than a short story.


I heartily suggest you find a copy of your fellow Oakland
autodidact Eric Hoffer's _Temper Of Our Time_. It's a small
book of short essays with great wisdom and nary a wasted
word. You might well have written parts of it yourself.

Going rate is $1.45:
https://www.alibris.com/booksearch?k...&hs.x=0&hs.y=0
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


Now that's the best idea you had this year, Andrew. I read Hoffer as a teenager and he made big impression on me. Some years ago I was recommending Simple & Direct by Jacques Barzun to a copy-editor (!) with a woefully woke education that left her bristly with feminism but with poor English comprehension and depression despite having a degree from a once-reputable university in EngLit* (!!!), and took the book off the shelf and spent the entire afternoon dipping into it. I remember, at a point where Barzun holds up the diary of a longshoreman as an example saying aloud WTF, until I remembered that Hoffer's day job was as a longshoreman.

Andre Jute
From small acorns great ideas grow

* I ran into one of her teachers at a book launch at a feminist house -- this was before my fave paperback editor and I jollied up a faux feminist novel and sold it to the head of that house who went all teary-eyed over it -- and asked her how she could have punched the ticket of a such dimbo, and she started shouting, "You're the ****ing patriarchy!" I was 33 years old -- and not quite a father yet though later that year I would be.
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Old July 31st 20, 04:26 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Robert Redfield, CDC Director, says Tom Kunich is right. Well theRBT bullies apologise to him?

On Friday, July 31, 2020 at 12:01:42 AM UTC+1, wrote:
On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 11:41:48 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
Robert Redfield, Director of the CDC, at the Buck Institute on July 14th:
“There has been another cost that we’ve seen, particularly in high schools. We’re seeing, sadly, far greater suicides now than we are deaths from COVID. We’re seeing far greater deaths from drug overdose that are above excess that we had as background than we are seeing the deaths from COVID,” Redfield said.

Looks like someone is keeping an eye on the "excess deaths" and analysing them.

Hey, Tom, now that your viewpoint has been official for more than a fortnight, do you think the resident obstructionists and bullies will apologise to you for their libellous calumnies?

Andre Jute
Time to kick butt


I figured this group out long ago. I can put in 20 messages about bicycle related things and they couldn't care less. There won't be a single reply unless it is something that Andrew has had a different experience with.

But they will post off subject things and then complain that I'm changing the subject. I spend my mornings listening to one or two hours of hours of lectures from the Hoover institute from people I admire such as Dr. Walter Williams or Dr. Thomas Sowell. These are people who started out correctly - they were in families that lauded achievement and Dr. Sowell got more education than anyone in his family when he graduated from the 7th grade. So he was pushed pretty hard. And his view of discrimination and economic distribution matches my own experience pretty closely. I reached a point where I didn't ask for more money I was satisfied with what I was making - it was forced upon me. When I found pay stubs showing that I had been making $233,000/yr I was astonished because I remember the job but I didn't remember the pay. By that point the job was far more important to me than the pay. Some of those jobs I would have done gratis. The cancer detection and treatment devices for instance.


Money's useful for keeping score. But that of course assumes that there are other people who do exactly the same job -- for instance, college teachers are on the whole interchangeable -- to compare with.

How do you manage to write a book of more than 100 pages or such? I peter out and lose interest before getting much more than a short story.


A hundred pages is a novella, like Hemingway's Old Man and the Sea. Unless you're Hemingway, there was until recently no market for novellas. A proper literary thriller in its hardcover edition is 256pp octavo, somewhere between 80K and 100K words. I don't start a novel until I know all the major characters and their problems, the solution to their problems being worked out in the course of the book being the "plot", which I don't know when I start because I don't care about the plot, and let my characters create it in their interactions as they try to solve their problems. (Aspirants should not do as I do. I have over sixty books of experience, and never lacked intellectual confidence. Instead aspirants should choose from the far more certain methods recommended in my WRITING A THRILLER.) Of course, sometimes it goes wrong, but I have no hesitation in murdering my darlings, once throwing out 1.2m words or about twelve novels' worth and then taking my wife to dinner without giving it a second thought.

Andre Jute
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Old July 31st 20, 04:29 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Friday, July 31, 2020 at 6:24:38 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Friday, July 31, 2020 at 1:18:45 AM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/30/2020 6:01 PM, wrote:
On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 11:41:48 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
Robert Redfield, Director of the CDC, at the Buck Institute on July 14th:
“There has been another cost that we’ve seen, particularly in high schools. We’re seeing, sadly, far greater suicides now than we are deaths from COVID.. We’re seeing far greater deaths from drug overdose that are above excess that we had as background than we are seeing the deaths from COVID,†Redfield said.

Looks like someone is keeping an eye on the "excess deaths" and analysing them.

Hey, Tom, now that your viewpoint has been official for more than a fortnight, do you think the resident obstructionists and bullies will apologise to you for their libellous calumnies?

Andre Jute
Time to kick butt

I figured this group out long ago. I can put in 20 messages about bicycle related things and they couldn't care less. There won't be a single reply unless it is something that Andrew has had a different experience with.

But they will post off subject things and then complain that I'm changing the subject. I spend my mornings listening to one or two hours of hours of lectures from the Hoover institute from people I admire such as Dr. Walter Williams or Dr. Thomas Sowell. These are people who started out correctly - they were in families that lauded achievement and Dr. Sowell got more education than anyone in his family when he graduated from the 7th grade. So he was pushed pretty hard. And his view of discrimination and economic distribution matches my own experience pretty closely. I reached a point where I didn't ask for more money I was satisfied with what I was making - it was forced upon me. When I found pay stubs showing that I had been making $233,000/yr I was astonished because I remember the job but I didn't remember the pay. By that point the job was far more important to me than the pay. Some of those jobs I would have done gratis. The cancer detection and treatment devices for instance

.

How do you manage to write a book of more than 100 pages or such? I peter out and lose interest before getting much more than a short story.


I heartily suggest you find a copy of your fellow Oakland
autodidact Eric Hoffer's _Temper Of Our Time_. It's a small
book of short essays with great wisdom and nary a wasted
word. You might well have written parts of it yourself.

Going rate is $1.45:
https://www.alibris.com/booksearch?k...&hs.x=0&hs.y=0
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


Now that's the best idea you had this year, Andrew. I read Hoffer as a teenager and he made big impression on me. Some years ago I was recommending Simple & Direct by Jacques Barzun to a copy-editor (!) with a woefully woke education that left her bristly with feminism but with poor English comprehension and depression despite having a degree from a once-reputable university in EngLit* (!!!), and took the book off the shelf and spent the entire afternoon dipping into it. I remember, at a point where Barzun holds up the diary of a longshoreman as an example saying aloud WTF, until I remembered that Hoffer's day job was as a longshoreman.

Andre Jute
From small acorns great ideas grow

* I ran into one of her teachers at a book launch at a feminist house -- this was before my fave paperback editor and I jollied up a faux feminist novel and sold it to the head of that house who went all teary-eyed over it -- and asked her how she could have punched the ticket of a such dimbo, and she started shouting, "You're the ****ing patriarchy!" I was 33 years old -- and not quite a father yet though later that year I would be.


It has always seemed weird to me that women want to be the equal of a man but they are the most aggressive drivers on the road committing the closest and highest speed passes of me when I am on the roads. Most act as if the driving regulations are only for those "men".
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Old July 31st 20, 04:31 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Meant to say that I consider Thomas Sowell the greatest American thinker now alive.

Andre Jute
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On Friday, July 31, 2020 at 12:01:42 AM UTC+1, wrote:
I spend my mornings listening to one or two hours of hours of lectures from the Hoover institute from people I admire such as Dr. Walter Williams or Dr. Thomas Sowell.
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On Friday, July 31, 2020 at 8:26:51 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Friday, July 31, 2020 at 12:01:42 AM UTC+1, wrote:
On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 11:41:48 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
Robert Redfield, Director of the CDC, at the Buck Institute on July 14th:
“There has been another cost that we’ve seen, particularly in high schools. We’re seeing, sadly, far greater suicides now than we are deaths from COVID. We’re seeing far greater deaths from drug overdose that are above excess that we had as background than we are seeing the deaths from COVID,” Redfield said.

Looks like someone is keeping an eye on the "excess deaths" and analysing them.

Hey, Tom, now that your viewpoint has been official for more than a fortnight, do you think the resident obstructionists and bullies will apologise to you for their libellous calumnies?

Andre Jute
Time to kick butt


I figured this group out long ago. I can put in 20 messages about bicycle related things and they couldn't care less. There won't be a single reply unless it is something that Andrew has had a different experience with.

But they will post off subject things and then complain that I'm changing the subject. I spend my mornings listening to one or two hours of hours of lectures from the Hoover institute from people I admire such as Dr. Walter Williams or Dr. Thomas Sowell. These are people who started out correctly - they were in families that lauded achievement and Dr. Sowell got more education than anyone in his family when he graduated from the 7th grade. So he was pushed pretty hard. And his view of discrimination and economic distribution matches my own experience pretty closely. I reached a point where I didn't ask for more money I was satisfied with what I was making - it was forced upon me. When I found pay stubs showing that I had been making $233,000/yr I was astonished because I remember the job but I didn't remember the pay. By that point the job was far more important to me than the pay. Some of those jobs I would have done gratis. The cancer detection and treatment devices for instance.


Money's useful for keeping score. But that of course assumes that there are other people who do exactly the same job -- for instance, college teachers are on the whole interchangeable -- to compare with.

How do you manage to write a book of more than 100 pages or such? I peter out and lose interest before getting much more than a short story.


A hundred pages is a novella, like Hemingway's Old Man and the Sea. Unless you're Hemingway, there was until recently no market for novellas. A proper literary thriller in its hardcover edition is 256pp octavo, somewhere between 80K and 100K words. I don't start a novel until I know all the major characters and their problems, the solution to their problems being worked out in the course of the book being the "plot", which I don't know when I start because I don't care about the plot, and let my characters create it in their interactions as they try to solve their problems. (Aspirants should not do as I do. I have over sixty books of experience, and never lacked intellectual confidence. Instead aspirants should choose from the far more certain methods recommended in my WRITING A THRILLER.) Of course, sometimes it goes wrong, but I have no hesitation in murdering my darlings, once throwing out 1.2m words or about twelve novels' worth and then taking my wife to dinner without giving it a second thought.


Well, my writings are more pointed to real life and historic occurrences. Since paperbacks seem to be the only thing selling anymore and the younger generation incapable of reading, I don't know that there would be much of a market.
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Old July 31st 20, 06:22 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Robert Redfield, CDC Director, says Tom Kunich is right. Well theRBT bullies apologise to him?

On Friday, July 31, 2020 at 4:50:00 PM UTC+1, wrote:
On Friday, July 31, 2020 at 8:26:51 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Friday, July 31, 2020 at 12:01:42 AM UTC+1, wrote:
On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 11:41:48 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
Robert Redfield, Director of the CDC, at the Buck Institute on July 14th:
“There has been another cost that we’ve seen, particularly in high schools. We’re seeing, sadly, far greater suicides now than we are deaths from COVID. We’re seeing far greater deaths from drug overdose that are above excess that we had as background than we are seeing the deaths from COVID,” Redfield said.

Looks like someone is keeping an eye on the "excess deaths" and analysing them.

Hey, Tom, now that your viewpoint has been official for more than a fortnight, do you think the resident obstructionists and bullies will apologise to you for their libellous calumnies?

Andre Jute
Time to kick butt

I figured this group out long ago. I can put in 20 messages about bicycle related things and they couldn't care less. There won't be a single reply unless it is something that Andrew has had a different experience with.

But they will post off subject things and then complain that I'm changing the subject. I spend my mornings listening to one or two hours of hours of lectures from the Hoover institute from people I admire such as Dr. Walter Williams or Dr. Thomas Sowell. These are people who started out correctly - they were in families that lauded achievement and Dr. Sowell got more education than anyone in his family when he graduated from the 7th grade. So he was pushed pretty hard. And his view of discrimination and economic distribution matches my own experience pretty closely. I reached a point where I didn't ask for more money I was satisfied with what I was making - it was forced upon me. When I found pay stubs showing that I had been making $233,000/yr I was astonished because I remember the job but I didn't remember the pay. By that point the job was far more important to me than the pay. Some of those jobs I would have done gratis. The cancer detection and treatment devices for instance.


Money's useful for keeping score. But that of course assumes that there are other people who do exactly the same job -- for instance, college teachers are on the whole interchangeable -- to compare with.

How do you manage to write a book of more than 100 pages or such? I peter out and lose interest before getting much more than a short story.


A hundred pages is a novella, like Hemingway's Old Man and the Sea. Unless you're Hemingway, there was until recently no market for novellas. A proper literary thriller in its hardcover edition is 256pp octavo, somewhere between 80K and 100K words. I don't start a novel until I know all the major characters and their problems, the solution to their problems being worked out in the course of the book being the "plot", which I don't know when I start because I don't care about the plot, and let my characters create it in their interactions as they try to solve their problems. (Aspirants should not do as I do. I have over sixty books of experience, and never lacked intellectual confidence. Instead aspirants should choose from the far more certain methods recommended in my WRITING A THRILLER.) Of course, sometimes it goes wrong, but I have no hesitation in murdering my darlings, once throwing out 1.2m words or about twelve novels' worth and then taking my wife to dinner without giving it a second thought.


Well, my writings are more pointed to real life and historic occurrences. Since paperbacks seem to be the only thing selling anymore and the younger generation incapable of reading, I don't know that there would be much of a market.


It's much easier to identify and reach a niche market in e-books. -- AJ
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On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 11:41:48 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
Robert Redfield, Director of the CDC, at the Buck Institute on July 14th:
“There has been another cost that we’ve seen, particularly in high schools. We’re seeing, sadly, far greater suicides now than we are deaths from COVID. We’re seeing far greater deaths from drug overdose that are above excess that we had as background than we are seeing the deaths from COVID,” Redfield said.

Looks like someone is keeping an eye on the "excess deaths" and analysing them.

Hey, Tom, now that your viewpoint has been official for more than a fortnight, do you think the resident obstructionists and bullies will apologise to you for their libellous calumnies?


There are other things that I have been saying and are numerically driven in with this video. It is too long for most of the great minds here to be able to follow but you might find it interesting: https://www.hoover.org/research/doct...g-and-closings

He repeats most of what I said and does so from a point of actual numbers.

But since we can't even get Frank to tell us where these seasonal workers in Donegal come from or where they go I wouldn't expect any understandable response from the lot of "put kunich on the kill file because all he does it raise questions we can't answer."
 




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