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Best Way To Carry Pepper Spray ?
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I hope that all of you had a happy Thanksgiving and got a chance to ride off some of the excess! Do any of you have any suggestions on a good way to carry pepper spray to be used against vicious canines? I have recently started carrying some to use against a problem dog on my lunch time ride. Since I know where the dog is I have been carrying the pepper spray in my pocket and taking it out before I get to where the dog might be loose. Carrying the pepper spray in a pocket is not a good place if traveling in unfamiliar areas. It needs to be carried somewhere it is immediately accessible near the handlebars. Can any of you offer suggestions as to holsters or other methods of carrying pepper spray. Next question... What do you do about a dog that has been hit point blank with pepper spray about 3-4 times by myself or co-worker yet still continues to try to attack the next day? The dog is a female pit bull who immediately breaks off the attack when hit with the pepper spray but will come back for more the next day. Unfortunately, this dog is smart enough not to get hit by traffic yet dumb enough keep getting pepper sprayed. Thanks, Steve |
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Steve Sr. writes: Next question... What do you do about a dog that has been hit point blank with pepper spray about 3-4 times by myself or co-worker yet still continues to try to attack the next day? The dog is a female pit bull who immediately breaks off the attack when hit with the pepper spray but will come back for more the next day. Unfortunately, this dog is smart enough not to get hit by traffic yet dumb enough keep getting pepper sprayed. Drop a MilkBone biscuit for Puppy. If possible, one with a thick wad of peanut butter plastered onto it. That oughta keep her busy for a while. I haven't met the pooch yet who could resist the temptation of free peanut butter, despite its sticky, gooey, lingual/palatal consequences. If all goes well, she gets her trophy, you get to escape, and everybody's happy. Except she'll routinely expect her special MilkBone from you everytime you ride by. Maybe the both of you will attain friendly, if not at least mutual terms. Sounds like the Protection racket, doesn't it? :-) If you're dead-set on going the pepper spray route (even though it heretofore obviously hasn't worked,) maybe arrange a system where it shoots out the soles of your shoes. That way it's more likely to get right into Puppy's face, and you don't have to aim downward and backward while trying to speedily propel a bicycle forward. I have a strong hunch that scents like Chanel No 5 or Revlon's "Charlie" would be more effective than pepper spray for repelling canines. I figure animules who like to roll around in manure & rotten fish guts must absolutely hate to smell pretty -- such predatory techniques as smelling pretty seem to work only for human females. Too much patchouli seems to repel everything. And it's very easy to attain too much patchouli. Pepper spray isn't the only weapon in the arsenal. But weapons are to be invoked only after reasonable means & enticements have been shown to be ineffective. Nothing gets a dog all distracted & obsessed like peanut butter. Or in some cases, ice cream. But it's usually logistically difficult to pack defensive ice cream on a bicycle. cheers, Tom -- Nothing is safe from me. I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca |
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On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 19:56:14 -0800, Tom Keats wrote:
Pepper spray isn't the only weapon in the arsenal. But weapons are to be invoked only after reasonable means & enticements have been shown to be ineffective. Nothing gets a dog all distracted & obsessed like peanut butter. Or in some cases, ice cream. But it's usually logistically difficult to pack defensive ice cream on a bicycle. By dropping treats from a bicycle, aren't you training the dog to chase other cyclists? The dog chases a cyclist. The dog gets a treat. Surely after enough positive reinforcement, the dog learns a new trick. --Luigi -- Luigi de Guzman http://ouij.livejournal.com |
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I was " grabbed " by a dog two weeks ago. It was standing kinda harmless
in the road, I passed it, then it spun, snarled and tried to take a bite of my leg. Luckily it didn't get a good hold, but it did rip my pant leg and cause some bruising. Next day I bought some pepper ( or whatever it is ) spray, and velcroed it to my handlebar. tic tic, a week passes. Yesterday I was out riding with my brother, he in the lead, when a rather big, I'd guess 70 or 80 lb, dog came at him at a full run from behind a building. I saw it, yelled some warning and he stood up on the pedals just in time for the dog to miss his leg and slam into the rear wheel and derailer. The wheel " taco-ed " and the derailer snagged in the spokes breaking itself to bits. The dog rolled, turned, and came at me. I was trying to get the stupid can of spray off the bars and where I could use it, and finally did, but with way too much difficulty. The dog circled me, but didn't attack. It eventually ran off, but watched us from a distance. This was in mildly hilly farm country, and our concern was getting away and home. Brothers bike was unrideable. He carried it home. What I took away from this it that the spray needs to be really easy to get to and use. Yesterdays attack only lasted a few seconds, and I didn't have time to stop the bike and use the spray. Unless it had been in my hand already, there just wasn't enough time or warning. Interesting this came up. I really need to rethink how to carry the stuff. The other thing is I think maybe a thing to do would be to dismount the bike ( quickly ) on whatever side the dog wasn't, and use it as a shield, possibly buying time to get the spray in hand. In both of my recent dog encounters, I couldn't have outrun the dog, so pedaling away wasn't an option, I might as well stop. I'm considering a velro pad on my jacket front and around the spray can. I'll stick the can to my chest area or shoulder or sleeve. jim d |
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On Nov 28, 10:27*pm, Jim wrote:
I was " grabbed " by a dog two weeks ago. It was standing kinda harmless in the road, I passed it, then it spun, snarled and tried to take a bite of my leg. Luckily it didn't get a good hold, but it did rip my pant leg and cause some bruising. * Next day I bought some pepper ( or whatever it is ) spray, and velcroed it to my handlebar. tic tic, a week passes. Yesterday I was out riding with my brother, he in the lead, when a rather big, I'd guess 70 or 80 lb, dog came at him at a full run from behind a building. I saw it, yelled some warning and he stood up on the pedals just in time for the dog to miss his leg and slam into the rear wheel and derailer. The wheel " taco-ed " and the derailer snagged in the spokes breaking itself to bits. The dog rolled, turned, and came at me. I was trying to get the stupid can of spray off the bars and where I could use it, and finally did, but with way too much difficulty. The dog circled me, but didn't attack. It eventually ran off, but watched us from a distance. This was in mildly hilly farm country, and our concern was getting away and home. Brothers bike was unrideable. He carried it home. What I took away from this it that the spray needs to be really easy to get to and use. Yesterdays attack only lasted a few seconds, and I didn't have time to stop the bike and use the spray. Unless it had been in my hand already, there just wasn't enough time or warning. Interesting this came up. I really need to rethink how to carry the stuff. The other thing is I think maybe a thing to do would be to dismount the bike ( quickly ) on whatever side the dog wasn't, and use it as a shield, possibly buying time to get the spray in hand. In both of my recent dog encounters, I couldn't have outrun the dog, so pedaling away wasn't an option, I might as well stop. I'm considering a velro pad on my jacket front and around the spray can. I'll stick the can to my chest area or shoulder or sleeve. jim d I'll bet that if you STOP pedaling, point your finger at the dog and scream NO as loudly as you can, it'll have the same effect as the pepper spray would. Failing that you could shoot the owner, kidnap the dog and take it home with you. Then, when you go for a ride, Fido will be safe and comfortable, snoozing in your house. Let me know how this works out. :-) Lewis. ***** |
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I'll bet that if you STOP pedaling, point your finger at the dog and scream NO as loudly as you can, it'll have the same effect as the pepper spray would. Failing that you could shoot the owner, kidnap the dog and take it home with you. Then, when you go for a ride, Fido will be safe and comfortable, snoozing in your house. Let me know how this works out. :-) Lewis. ***** I'll be out again today, so who knows.... maybe there will be another story to tell Seriously tho, there seems a trend here ( rural Ohio ) for people to keep meaner and meaner dogs, and not have them chained all the time. We do have a leash law here, for what that's worth. I guess it's something, in that if I do spray, or shoot, a dog that's latched on my foot, there is the legal point that it shouldn't have been in the road. My wife witnessed a neighbor lady get nastily mauled by a dog this summer. In that case I went out, and like you say, sorta stared the dog down. It circled and snarled, but didn't come after me as long as I stayed looking at it. That ended with the police taking the dog and having it put down. It had attacked someone once before. Oh, well, that's in the past, let it go. Today is a beautiful day considering the time of year, so I'm headed out biking. jim d |
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Steve Sr. wrote:
Next question... What do you do about a dog that has been hit point blank with pepper spray about 3-4 times by myself or co-worker yet still continues to try to attack the next day? The dog is a female pit bull who immediately breaks off the attack when hit with the pepper spray but will come back for more the next day. Unfortunately, this dog is smart enough not to get hit by traffic yet dumb enough keep getting pepper sprayed. These foul animals get all too easily into a killing rage. If your area is a tyranny preventing you from going armed, then this is the next best thing: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...F8&me=&seller= Remember, if you don't stop the damn thing, you are setting up the next rider for an attack. That rider could be a 10 year old girl who'll be killed or maimed by the animal. |
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Jim ? wrote:
I'll bet that if you STOP pedaling, point your finger at the dog and scream NO as loudly as you can, it'll have the same effect as the pepper spray would. Failing that you could shoot the owner, kidnap the dog and take it home with you. Then, when you go for a ride, Fido will be safe and comfortable, snoozing in your house. Let me know how this works out. :-) Lewis. ***** I'll be out again today, so who knows.... maybe there will be another story to tell Seriously tho, there seems a trend here ( rural Ohio ) for people to keep meaner and meaner dogs, and not have them chained all the time. We do have a leash law here, for what that's worth. I guess it's something, in that if I do spray, or shoot, a dog that's latched on my foot, there is the legal point that it shouldn't have been in the road. My wife witnessed a neighbor lady get nastily mauled by a dog this summer. In that case I went out, and like you say, sorta stared the dog down. It circled and snarled, but didn't come after me as long as I stayed looking at it. That ended with the police taking the dog and having it put down. It had attacked someone once before.[...] Substitute "owner" for "dog" and the outcome would have been better. -- Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007 If you are not a part of the solution, you are a part of the precipitate. |
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On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 21:34:19 -0500, Steve Sr. wrote:
Hello, I hope that all of you had a happy Thanksgiving and got a chance to ride off some of the excess! Do any of you have any suggestions on a good way to carry pepper spray to be used against vicious canines? I have recently started carrying some to use against a problem dog on my lunch time ride. Since I know where the dog is I have been carrying the pepper spray in my pocket and taking it out before I get to where the dog might be loose. Carrying the pepper spray in a pocket is not a good place if traveling in unfamiliar areas. It needs to be carried somewhere it is immediately accessible near the handlebars. Can any of you offer suggestions as to holsters or other methods of carrying pepper spray. Next question... What do you do about a dog that has been hit point blank with pepper spray about 3-4 times by myself or co-worker yet still continues to try to attack the next day? The dog is a female pit bull who immediately breaks off the attack when hit with the pepper spray but will come back for more the next day. Unfortunately, this dog is smart enough not to get hit by traffic yet dumb enough keep getting pepper sprayed. Thanks, Steve Not exactly what you're asking for but if you're not the slightest of chaps I honestly recommend slowing down before the area which it occurs, unclip the dog-side leg and give the blighter a boot, sounds awful and make sure it's defensive (don't chase it and boot it repeatedly!) cos it can be trouble with the law but often you'll get benefit of the doubt. Also helps if the owner's not in sight: no offence to anyone but I've found owners of vicious dogs often have quite a bite themselves. Good luck. |
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Keiron wrote:
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 21:34:19 -0500, Steve Sr. wrote: Hello, I hope that all of you had a happy Thanksgiving and got a chance to ride off some of the excess! Do any of you have any suggestions on a good way to carry pepper spray to be used against vicious canines? I have recently started carrying some to use against a problem dog on my lunch time ride. Since I know where the dog is I have been carrying the pepper spray in my pocket and taking it out before I get to where the dog might be loose. Carrying the pepper spray in a pocket is not a good place if traveling in unfamiliar areas. It needs to be carried somewhere it is immediately accessible near the handlebars. Can any of you offer suggestions as to holsters or other methods of carrying pepper spray. Next question... What do you do about a dog that has been hit point blank with pepper spray about 3-4 times by myself or co-worker yet still continues to try to attack the next day? The dog is a female pit bull who immediately breaks off the attack when hit with the pepper spray but will come back for more the next day. Unfortunately, this dog is smart enough not to get hit by traffic yet dumb enough keep getting pepper sprayed. Thanks, Steve Not exactly what you're asking for but if you're not the slightest of chaps I honestly recommend slowing down before the area which it occurs, unclip the dog-side leg and give the blighter a boot, sounds awful and make sure it's defensive (don't chase it and boot it repeatedly!) cos it can be trouble with the law but often you'll get benefit of the doubt. Also helps if the owner's not in sight: no offence to anyone but I've found owners of vicious dogs often have quite a bite themselves. Good luck. Be aware that in the US, unlike the UK, the owner of mean dogs in rural areas will almost always have a loaded firearm near to hand. Similarly, they will also have a motor vehicle that could be used against a cyclist. However, if you tell them you have already called the cops about their dog, they will likely back off. -- Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007 If you are not a part of the solution, you are a part of the precipitate. |
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