Ride an SUB not an SUV

On Apr 12, 4:12 pm, "donquijote1954"
wrote:
On Apr 9, 9:40 pm, "di" wrote:



"donquijote1954" wrote in message

roups.com...

Lions and monkeys don't want the same. Lions dream of big and pompous.
Monkeys are more into practical, fun things like bikes, motorcycles
and EVs. And they are beautiful, just not pompous.

The only areawhere you are #1 is in ribbons...

http://blogorelli.typepad.com/photos...ed/ribbons.gif

This doesn't make any sense at all to me, I guess you need to explain it.
But then again, not much you ever say makes much sense.

So many bumper stickers and ribbons on SUVs... I guess they want to
show their support for the troops but keep burning gas like supporting
terrorism. Or perhaps they just want to hide the latter fact. Anyway,
this their latest bumper sticker...

http://www.toppun.com/ProductImages/.../What-SUV-Woul...


I saw a cool one last week. It was one of thiese bumper stickers:
http://www.goats.com/store/rfv.html
It was, obviously, on a Subaru.

"Pat" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Apr 12, 4:12 pm, "donquijote1954"
wrote:
On Apr 9, 9:40 pm, "di" wrote:



"donquijote1954" wrote in message

roups.com...

Lions and monkeys don't want the same. Lions dream of big and
pompous.
Monkeys are more into practical, fun things like bikes, motorcycles
and EVs. And they are beautiful, just not pompous.

The only areawhere you are #1 is in ribbons...

http://blogorelli.typepad.com/photos...ed/ribbons.gif

This doesn't make any sense at all to me, I guess you need to explain
it.
But then again, not much you ever say makes much sense.

So many bumper stickers and ribbons on SUVs... I guess they want to
show their support for the troops but keep burning gas like supporting
terrorism. Or perhaps they just want to hide the latter fact. Anyway,
this their latest bumper sticker...

http://www.toppun.com/ProductImages/.../What-SUV-Woul...


I saw a cool one last week. It was one of thiese bumper stickers:
http://www.goats.com/store/rfv.html
It was, obviously, on a Subaru.

That's plain silly. Republicans don't even let their children watch Harry
Potter, because they believe it might lead them to believe in magic.

On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 20:28:57 -0700, "Baxter"
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"Matthew T. Russotto" wrote in message
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Fantasy. Utter fantasy. Remove the US occupation and you still have left
every grudge, every grievance, every complaint that one Iraqi group
has against another, not to mention the complaints they have with
Iraq's neighbors (and Iraq's neighbors likely ambitions in Iraq). The
idea that Iraq is filled with reasonable people turned to radicalism
by the US occupation is simply a fairy tale.

Leave them to work out their own problems. Or do you think we should be a
Nanny State?


See, only the US is full of compassionate peaceful folks. Everyone one
else is hateful and cruel. They need us to keep them from fighting
each other. The good old White Man's Burden.

There was never any plan nor intention to leave. That is the bottom
line.

On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 10:56:11 -0500,
(Matthew T. Russotto) wrote:

In article ,
dgk wrote:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:14:56 -0500,
(Matthew T. Russotto) wrote:


Another one believing in the fantasy of Iraq being filled with a bunch
of reasonable groups with reasonable aims who are only engaging in
violence because of the bad old United States.

Most folks around the world want only two things, a place to live and
a job. Islam, for the most part, is a peaceful religion. Extremists
exist in all types of religions and exploit them for their own
agendas. Remove the US occupation and the extremists will be on the
outs.

Fantasy. Utter fantasy. Remove the US occupation and you still have left
every grudge, every grievance, every complaint that one Iraqi group
has against another, not to mention the complaints they have with
Iraq's neighbors (and Iraq's neighbors likely ambitions in Iraq). The
idea that Iraq is filled with reasonable people turned to radicalism
by the US occupation is simply a fairy tale.

Look at Iran. Before we invaded Iraq, the mullahs were clinging to
power and there were large pro-western demonstrations. As soon as we
invaded, the mullahs were firmly back in power.

Before we invaded Iraq, the mullahs in Iran had been in power for many
years, and they still remain so. They were never in any danger of
being ousted.


I repeat Matthew, what was the Iraq invasion all about? Come on, you
know.

And you are wrong about Iran. The mullahs were losing their grip on
power. Our invasion of Iraq ended that, for the short term.

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 09:28:01 -0400, dgk wrote:

On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 20:28:57 -0700, "Baxter"
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"Matthew T. Russotto" wrote in message
t...

Fantasy. Utter fantasy. Remove the US occupation and you still have
left
every grudge, every grievance, every complaint that one Iraqi group
has against another, not to mention the complaints they have with
Iraq's neighbors (and Iraq's neighbors likely ambitions in Iraq). The
idea that Iraq is filled with reasonable people turned to radicalism
by the US occupation is simply a fairy tale.

Leave them to work out their own problems. Or do you think we should
be a
Nanny State?


See, only the US is full of compassionate peaceful folks. Everyone one
else is hateful and cruel. They need us to keep them from fighting
each other. The good old White Man's Burden.

There was never any plan nor intention to leave. That is the bottom
line.

Although I think we're wrong to be in Iraq, even I think there was a plan
to leave one day.

--
Bob in CT

On Apr 13, 12:21 am, "Pat" wrote:
On Apr 12, 4:12 pm, "donquijote1954"
wrote:





On Apr 9, 9:40 pm, "di" wrote:

"donquijote1954" wrote in message

roups.com...

Lions and monkeys don't want the same. Lions dream of big and pompous.
Monkeys are more into practical, fun things like bikes, motorcycles
and EVs. And they are beautiful, just not pompous.

The only areawhere you are #1 is in ribbons...

http://blogorelli.typepad.com/photos...ed/ribbons.gif

This doesn't make any sense at all to me, I guess you need to explain it.
But then again, not much you ever say makes much sense.

So many bumper stickers and ribbons on SUVs... I guess they want to
show their support for the troops but keep burning gas like supporting
terrorism. Or perhaps they just want to hide the latter fact. Anyway,
this their latest bumper sticker...

http://www.toppun.com/ProductImages/.../What-SUV-Woul...

I saw a cool one last week. It was one of thiese bumper stickers:http://www.goats.com/store/rfv.html
It was, obviously, on a Subaru.-

Sorry but couldn't find that one. Only found this... "Jesus Loves
Dick" Sticker, but I guess you can put "Republicans Love Dick" and
still makes sense.

--Electric cars - - - add a million to the world fleet, and then tell
me how your gonna recharge them.

Either look at the bigger picture, or go back to jousting with your
SUV Windmill.--

As a matter of fact, windmills are a good solution --in some cases.
And in some other cases is the bike, and then public transportation
and so on. So the solution is MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION combined with
MULTIMODAL ENERGY, meaning options like the Ethanol or Hydrogen
fuels...

What we need though is the POLITICAL WILL --or THE REVOLUTION-- to
make it happen.

"Global warming may or may not be the great environmental crisis of
the next century, but -- regardless of whether it is or isn't -- we
won't do much about it. We will (I am sure) argue ferociously over it
and may even, as a nation, make some fairly solemn-sounding
commitments to avoid it. But the more dramatic and meaningful these
commitments seem, the less likely they are to be observed. Little will
be done. . . . Global warming promises to become a gushing source of
national hypocrisy.''

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...070400789.html

--show me a car that a poor person can afford today that is fuel
efficient and clean--

The bike, public transportation, car pooling, car sharing... they all
are available cheap options to the public. However because they are
just plain dangerous (the bike) or never spoken about, they are out of
mind for most folks. A good campaign may start by putting bin Laden on
the passenger seat...

"The terrorists who attacked America weren't being funded primarily by
drug money. They were being funded primarily by oil money. In other
words, it isn't the drug addicts who should feel guilty. It's the
gasoline addicts."

(some info here for those who want to start THE REVOLUTION)

So you say you want a revolution? Well, we all want to change the
world. So what? Quit bitching and moaning, quit bellyaching, and get
off your duff. There is no way to change the world by sitting on your
ass in an air conditioned room, even if you listen to nothing but
early Dylan and read nothing but Hunter Thompson. You can't change the
world unless you change yourself first. As Gandhi used to say, "Be the
change you want to see in the world".

http://www.faulkingtruth.com/Article...ning/1054.html

MORE OPTIONS HERE...
http://www.mycommute.org/site/options

On 13 Apr 2007 11:27:43 -0700, "donquijote1954"
wrote:

As a matter of fact, windmills are a good solution --in some cases.

Windmills are a good supplement. In the U.S. with tax breaks and
setasides, even the oil companies are buying lots, but its a huge
investment and it doesn't add up to much as a percentage of the power
needed and in the windiest areas they aren't reliable enough to
support even a small grid on their own. Windmills are not a solution.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

"donquijote1954" wrote in message
ups.com...


"The terrorists who attacked America weren't being funded primarily by
drug money. They were being funded primarily by oil money. In other
words, it isn't the drug addicts who should feel guilty. It's the
gasoline addicts."


So where did this "oil money" come from? Before you answer, be careful,
you about to justify the Iraq War.