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  #31  
Old August 1st 19, 08:49 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 7:18:40 PM UTC-7, Joy Beeson wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jul 2019 19:42:28 -0700 (PDT), pH wrote:

I always romanticized it but my Aunt told me that cleaning the lantern globes was an awful chore considering there was a social imperative that the girls' white clothes had to stay white. A contaminated flatiron that left a black streak meant the thing being ironed had to start all over in the wash.


It was polishing the burners that got Mom down.

She had a mixed bag of lamps that we got out when the power lines were
down. Much, much later I realized that we could *always* call to
report the outage: the phone lines never ceased to function. But
this didn't strike me as remarkable until a couple of revolutions in
phone service later.

Mom's lamps were assorted because her friends gave her their old lamps
when she married a farmer.

This was in the thirties, on a central-Indiana farm. Stringing wire
to homes a mile apart is more expensive than wiring homes that are
adjacent, and farmers were poor.

Dad had a "wind charger" for listening to the radio. I could have
crawled up into the smokehouse attic (the smokehouse had been given to
me as a playhouse) and looked at it, but I didn't learn that it was
there until my sister (who raised her children in the farmhouse we
grew up in) told me that it had blown away in a storm.

I didn't even know it was a smokehouse, and haven't the slightest idea
where the smoke came from and how it got out without leaving any
stains or the slightest smell.

-------------------

I think that having said "we moved to town" might be confusing. When
the war ended, we moved back -- and used the money Dad had earned at
Delco Remy to install electricity and running water, and buy a
tractor.

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Joy Beeson
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Joy, why do I get the feeling you're a lot older than you seem?
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Old August 1st 19, 08:51 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 10:35:42 PM UTC-7, Tosspot wrote:
On 31/07/2019 17:52, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 9:35:31 AM UTC-4, duane wrote:
On 31/07/2019 7:13 a.m., Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 6:02:18 AM UTC-4, Duane wrote:
Joy Beeson wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jul 2019 11:15:12 +0700, John B.
wrote:

But of course, some folks will want to be "modern" and
"trendy" but given that the "swift walker" a two wheel
sort of device was built of wood and dates to 1817 just how
"trendy" is wood?

Ceramic knives are trendy, and that dates all the way back to
the paleolithic.

Sometimes there's a reason for a revival. Cast iron was
dropped like a hot potato when tin pots became cheaply
available, but I cook in little else.

In the interval between tin pots and now, cheap paper towels
were invented -- so my cast iron is eaier to take care of
than my stainless steel.

Cast iron *must* be wiped dry if it gets wet, and it *always*
leaves permanent black stains on the wiping cloth. (Which
explains old embroidery patterns for marking dish towels
"glass". I.E., *not* to be used on pots.)

And the rags had to be washed by hand. I'm still boggled by
the discovery that Mom had both my older sisters in diapers
at the same time *before* we got electricity and running
water.

Me too, but we moved to town not long after I was born.


Once a cast iron pan is cured it can be dried simply by putting
it on the fire for a couple minutes. My procedure is to wash
with soap and water. No abrasives. Then wipe dry with a dish
towel. then heat for a couple minutes. My cast iron pans
came with me from New Orleans and I haven’t lived there since
1987.

-- duane

With proper care good quality cast iron pots and pans can last
for generations.

Cheers


My favorite 12" frying pan came from my grandmother. They don't
require much care once they're cured unless you mistreat them.


Plus a cast iron frying pan can be cheaper to use as it holds the
heat a lot longer than the aluminium ones do. I have a small 6" cast
iron frying pan I take on all my camping trips.


Which is odd as aluminum has a higher specific heat capacity than cast iron.

I like my cast iron pan though :-)

One other great thing you can use a cast iron frying pan for is to
warm your bed sheets on a cold night. VBEG LOL

Cheers


I think you should look that up. Aluminum has a lower specific heat value and a higher heat conduction.
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Old August 1st 19, 11:29 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 12:51:14 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 10:35:42 PM UTC-7, Tosspot wrote:
On 31/07/2019 17:52, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 9:35:31 AM UTC-4, duane wrote:
On 31/07/2019 7:13 a.m., Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 6:02:18 AM UTC-4, Duane wrote:
Joy Beeson wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jul 2019 11:15:12 +0700, John B.
wrote:

But of course, some folks will want to be "modern" and
"trendy" but given that the "swift walker" a two wheel
sort of device was built of wood and dates to 1817 just how
"trendy" is wood?

Ceramic knives are trendy, and that dates all the way back to
the paleolithic.

Sometimes there's a reason for a revival. Cast iron was
dropped like a hot potato when tin pots became cheaply
available, but I cook in little else.

In the interval between tin pots and now, cheap paper towels
were invented -- so my cast iron is eaier to take care of
than my stainless steel.

Cast iron *must* be wiped dry if it gets wet, and it *always*
leaves permanent black stains on the wiping cloth. (Which
explains old embroidery patterns for marking dish towels
"glass". I.E., *not* to be used on pots.)

And the rags had to be washed by hand. I'm still boggled by
the discovery that Mom had both my older sisters in diapers
at the same time *before* we got electricity and running
water.

Me too, but we moved to town not long after I was born.


Once a cast iron pan is cured it can be dried simply by putting
it on the fire for a couple minutes. My procedure is to wash
with soap and water. No abrasives. Then wipe dry with a dish
towel. then heat for a couple minutes. My cast iron pans
came with me from New Orleans and I haven’t lived there since
1987.

-- duane

With proper care good quality cast iron pots and pans can last
for generations.

Cheers


My favorite 12" frying pan came from my grandmother. They don't
require much care once they're cured unless you mistreat them.

Plus a cast iron frying pan can be cheaper to use as it holds the
heat a lot longer than the aluminium ones do. I have a small 6" cast
iron frying pan I take on all my camping trips.


Which is odd as aluminum has a higher specific heat capacity than cast iron.

I like my cast iron pan though :-)

One other great thing you can use a cast iron frying pan for is to
warm your bed sheets on a cold night. VBEG LOL

Cheers


I think you should look that up. Aluminum has a lower specific heat value and a higher heat conduction.


And as a result aluminum cools much faster than cast iron when you
remove it from the heat source :-)
--
cheers,

John B.

  #34  
Old August 2nd 19, 03:08 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 12:49:33 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

Joy, why do I get the feeling you're a lot older than you seem?


I don't know that I seem less old than I am. I had lunch at Wendy's
today, and when I punched my receipt into our accounting program, I
noticed that I'd gotten a senior discount without asking for it.

My lunch turned out to be a very good choice. I love taco salad, but
it's too much for a seventy-eight-year-old woman to eat just before
exercising, and it gets soggy if you try to save some for later. But
I looked at the menu and thought "how much salad are they going to
give me for $3.29?".

Turned out that it was a lot, but the chips, salsa, and "sour cream"
(thick buttermilk) were in sealed packets I could save for later, and
that combination would have made an excellent snack. The greens,
cheese, and chili left me feeling a bit stuffed, but I planned to ride
a short distance, then walk around in Big R for an hour.

Pity our only Wendy's isn't anywhere near any route that keeps me out
long enough to want a second meal. I don't usually lunch at all on
that route, but I didn't roll out until a minute before eleven.

--
Joy Beeson
joy beeson at comcast dot net
http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/


  #35  
Old August 2nd 19, 06:49 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 01/08/2019 15:17, Duane wrote:
On 01/08/2019 1:35 a.m., Tosspot wrote:
On 31/07/2019 17:52, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 9:35:31 AM UTC-4, duane wrote:
On 31/07/2019 7:13 a.m., Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 6:02:18 AM UTC-4, Duane wrote:
Joy Beeson wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jul 2019 11:15:12 +0700, John B.
wrote:

But of course, some folks will want to be "modern" and
"trendy" but given that the "swift walker" aÂ* two wheel
sort of device was built of wood and dates to 1817 just how
"trendy" is wood?

Ceramic knives are trendy, and that dates all the way back to
the paleolithic.

Sometimes there's a reason for a revival.Â* Cast iron was
dropped like a hot potato when tin pots became cheaply
available, but I cook in little else.

In the interval between tin pots and now, cheap paper towels
were invented -- so my cast iron is eaier to take care of
than my stainless steel.

Cast iron *must* be wiped dry if it gets wet, and it *always*
leaves permanent black stains on the wiping cloth.Â* (Which
explains old embroidery patterns for marking dish towels
"glass".Â* I.E., *not* to be used on pots.)

And the rags had to be washed by hand.Â* I'm still boggled by
the discovery that Mom had both my older sisters in diapers
at the same time *before* we got electricity and running
water.

Me too, but we moved to town not long after I was born.


Once a cast iron pan is cured it can be dried simply by putting
it on the fire for a couple minutes.Â*Â* My procedure is to wash
with soap and water. No abrasives.Â* Then wipe dry with a dish
towel.Â* then heat for a couple minutes.Â*Â*Â* My cast iron pans
came with me from New Orleans and I haven’t lived there since
1987.

-- duane

With proper care good quality cast iron pots and pans can last
for generations.

Cheers


My favorite 12" frying pan came from my grandmother.Â* They don't
require much care once they're cured unless you mistreat them.

Plus a cast iron frying pan can be cheaper to use as it holds the
heat a lot longer than the aluminium ones do. I have a small 6" cast
iron frying pan I take on all my camping trips.


Which is odd as aluminum has a higher specific heat capacity than cast
iron.


I have a large cast aluminum pot for gumbo and red beans.Â* It
distributes and hold the heat pretty well.Â* Lighter than cast iron but
harder to clean.

I like my cast iron pan though :-)


You have only 1?Â* You need at least an 8 inch for corn bread and that's
too small for most other stuff.Â* g


Alas I am a rank amateur but I will fix this as a smaller one would be
nice. Next time though, a wooden handle with the helper.

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Old August 2nd 19, 05:21 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Tom Kunich[_5_]
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On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 7:08:47 PM UTC-7, Joy Beeson wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 12:49:33 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

Joy, why do I get the feeling you're a lot older than you seem?


I don't know that I seem less old than I am. I had lunch at Wendy's
today, and when I punched my receipt into our accounting program, I
noticed that I'd gotten a senior discount without asking for it.

My lunch turned out to be a very good choice. I love taco salad, but
it's too much for a seventy-eight-year-old woman to eat just before
exercising, and it gets soggy if you try to save some for later. But
I looked at the menu and thought "how much salad are they going to
give me for $3.29?".

Turned out that it was a lot, but the chips, salsa, and "sour cream"
(thick buttermilk) were in sealed packets I could save for later, and
that combination would have made an excellent snack. The greens,
cheese, and chili left me feeling a bit stuffed, but I planned to ride
a short distance, then walk around in Big R for an hour.

Pity our only Wendy's isn't anywhere near any route that keeps me out
long enough to want a second meal. I don't usually lunch at all on
that route, but I didn't roll out until a minute before eleven.

--
Joy Beeson
joy beeson at comcast dot net
http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/


I guess that means that you're the perfect age.
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Old August 2nd 19, 11:20 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 8/2/2019 12:21 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 7:08:47 PM UTC-7, Joy Beeson wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 12:49:33 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

Joy, why do I get the feeling you're a lot older than you seem?


I don't know that I seem less old than I am. I had lunch at Wendy's
today, and when I punched my receipt into our accounting program, I
noticed that I'd gotten a senior discount without asking for it.

My lunch turned out to be a very good choice. I love taco salad, but
it's too much for a seventy-eight-year-old woman to eat just before
exercising, and it gets soggy if you try to save some for later. But
I looked at the menu and thought "how much salad are they going to
give me for $3.29?".

Turned out that it was a lot, but the chips, salsa, and "sour cream"
(thick buttermilk) were in sealed packets I could save for later, and
that combination would have made an excellent snack. The greens,
cheese, and chili left me feeling a bit stuffed, but I planned to ride
a short distance, then walk around in Big R for an hour.

Pity our only Wendy's isn't anywhere near any route that keeps me out
long enough to want a second meal. I don't usually lunch at all on
that route, but I didn't roll out until a minute before eleven.

--
Joy Beeson
joy beeson at comcast dot net
http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/


I guess that means that you're the perfect age.


I think my age is pretty good. But I keep hoping I'll get older. ;-)


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