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Cyclist on wrong side of the road
On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 11:08:09 +0100
GB wrote: The alternative would have been simply to stop and let her run into the front of my car. That would have been more fun. |
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Cyclist on wrong side of the road
On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 19:27:59 +0100
TMS320 wrote: The Highway Code suggests pedestrians should travel on the right hand side when there are no pavements. Wrongly or rightly, some people probably think it applies when going slowly on a bicycle or mobility scooter. That's the legal requirement in some US states. I think Europe is generally more sensible. |
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Cyclist on wrong side of the road
On 12/08/2019 17:47, JNugent wrote:
On 12/08/2019 14:33, TMS320 wrote: On 12/08/2019 13:04, JNugent wrote: On 12/08/2019 08:34, TMS320 wrote: On 12/08/2019 00:22, JNugent wrote: On reflection, there was no point in asking you to acknowledge such concepts. Your belief is that cyclists must be allowed to do as they please. I believe the Laws of Physics are quite strict about what happens if road users try to do as they please. Besides, nobody has yet to answer my question why the event descibed should bother them. You didn't read the OP? I did. You made your "scofflaw" allegation which needed justifying. We finally got there (which must be a ukrc record) - even though the rule is riddled with exceptions, which we have already covered, which makes it a matter of judgement to the road user and opinion by the onlooker. I then asked why anybody needed to be bothered about such a scenario. Given the lack of response, apart from the usual one of Pounder going back to the playground and you misunderstanding th question, I take it that it isn't perceived to be an issue so we can put it to bed. |
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Cyclist on wrong side of the road
On 12/08/2019 19:08, Rob Morley wrote:
On Sat, 10 Aug 2019 22:20:52 +0100 TMS320 wrote: - why does anybody need to be bothered about it? Normally I try to give cyclists half the road - if I'm passing one on my side I have to go into the other lane, while if he was on the correct side I wouldn't have to do anything to pass him. Plus if he's silly enough to ride on the wrong side I have to expect him to do something dangerous, like swinging a U-turn while answering his phone, so slow right down. On one occasion I was turning out of a junction onto a three lane one way main thoroughfare (urban 30 limit) into a lane where I encountered a teenager facing me doing wheelies. It was a nice big space, an obviously quiet time. Good on him. I can easily imagine that some people (given the hysterical attitude we often get), would consider something like this as verging on a national disaster. |
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Cyclist on wrong side of the road
On 12/08/2019 20:43, TMS320 wrote:
On 12/08/2019 17:47, JNugent wrote: On 12/08/2019 14:33, TMS320 wrote: On 12/08/2019 13:04, JNugent wrote: On 12/08/2019 08:34, TMS320 wrote: On 12/08/2019 00:22, JNugent wrote: On reflection, there was no point in asking you to acknowledge such concepts. Your belief is that cyclists must be allowed to do as they please. I believe the Laws of Physics are quite strict about what happens if road users try to do as they please. That may mean something. It might not. It's not worth puzzling over. Besides, nobody has yet to answer my question why the event descibed should bother them. You didn't read the OP? I did. In that case, you (now) know that the cyclist committed an offence. And it was just about the most basic and long-standing offence on the Statute Book when it comes to traffic law. You made your "scofflaw" allegation which needed justifying. Was there ever any doubt that it was more than justified? Other than to people who don't accept that the law says you must keep left of oncoming trafic (as well as cycling considerately, etc) I mean, obviously. We finally got there (which must be a ukrc record) - even though the rule is riddled with exceptions, which we have already covered, which makes it a matter of judgement to the road user and opinion by the onlooker. A cyclist may hold the "opinion" that he or she is allowed to cycle on the RHS of the road. Such an opinion is mistaken. Failing to pass to (the cyclist's) left of oncoming traffic is an offence. That isn't a matter which falls to be decided by opinion. I then asked why anybody needed to be bothered about such a scenario. Given the lack of response, apart from the usual one of Pounder going back to the playground and you misunderstanding th question, I take it that it isn't perceived to be an issue so we can put it to bed. I have misunderstood no question, though I treated one of yours as irrelevant and not worthy of dignifying with an answer. You, OTOH, show signs of not understanding - or accepting - that using the RHS of the road in the face of oncoming traffic is an offence. Of course, if it were an Audi driver doing it, that would be Completely Different [TM]. |
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Cyclist on wrong side of the road
On 12/08/2019 23:43, JNugent wrote:
On 12/08/2019 20:43, TMS320 wrote: I then asked why anybody needed to be bothered about such a scenario. Given the lack of response, apart from the usual one of Pounder going back to the playground and you misunderstanding th question, I take it that it isn't perceived to be an issue so we can put it to bed. I have misunderstood no question, though I treated one of yours as irrelevant and not worthy of dignifying with an answer. well, that answered my question in a round about way. You, OTOH, show signs of not understanding - or accepting - that using the RHS of the road in the face of oncoming traffic is an offence. Of course, if it were an Audi driver doing it, that would be Completely Different [TM]. I expect some people take their driving test in an Audi... But if you were to meet an Audi coming towards you on a left hand bend, the Laws of Physics will definitely make the outcome Completely Different [TM]. |
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