What's up with Bigha?

Larry Varney wrote:
Edward Wong wrote:
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Another bad example of "armchair" bike reviews was when Giant
introduced the Revive. It was instantly ridiculed by many in this
forum and most were people who had never laid a finger on one of
these. One poster called it a "joke bike" and another said, "great,
another office chair with wheels that is slower than a beach cruiser"
or something to that effect. I decided to check out this
"slower than a beach cruiser joke bike" myself and form my own
opinions. I found to my delight that these bikes are the most fun on
two wheels. I guess this is the part where I am supposed to
"apologize" (well it's not as fast as a low racer,
but...yada...yada...yada) on the bike's behalf for not being fast
enough to break Sam Whittingham's world record but I'm not. I will
say that I found it to be fast enough and comfortable to the point
that I'm calling it an ergonomic revelation. In fact I went ahead and
ordered one! So much for the "experts" who look at a picture on a
website and make their "decrees".

If I could afford it, I would order a BiGHA. They do have a 60 day
trial period so it's hard to lose. I believe I would wind up keeping
it. It seems like a really nice bike and made in America to boot!

My two cents:-)

Edward Wong
Orlando, FL


There's just so much more to a bike than mere weight and price. Sure,
if I were looking for a racing bike, especially one where I'd be doing
lots of climbing, weight would assume more importance. But for touring,
it's less so.
If I heard that such-and-such bike weighs 10 - 20 pounds more than
another that seems like it should be similar, the first thing I'd want
to know is: what's on that bike that added the weight? Is it just the
way it's built, as in thicker and stiffer frame, forks, etc.? How about
components? Does it come with fenders? All of these things add weight,
of course, but possibly the result is a better bike than the lighter
one. Better as in, what someone might want to do with it.
And that's where it comes down to having to actually see and ride the
bike, if at all possible. It might turn out that the weight matters
little in comparison with all the other features of the bike. Or, it may
just be a ton of pure garbage. But the only way of finding out for sure
is to see and (hopefully) ride the bike.
I'm looking forward to seeing a BigHA in the flesh. I suspect that I
won't really want one, since all of my biking niches are filled - my TE
does the job when I want a faster ride, and now I have a Speed to
complement my GTO. If I ever start doing a lot of air travel again, I'll
probably buy another Bike Friday SatRDay, but right now I'm pretty
satisfied with what I've got.


Still defending a bike you never saw and would never buy.

Tell us about all the other slow, 50 pound bikes with fenders that cost
$3000.00. Can't? I didn't think so.

Lorenzo L. Love
http://home.thegrid.net/~lllove

“In the old days being crazy meant something. Nowadays everybody’s crazy.”
Charles Manson

Larry Varney wrote:
Edward Wong wrote:
snip

Another bad example of "armchair" bike reviews was when Giant
introduced the Revive. It was instantly ridiculed by many in this
forum and most were people who had never laid a finger on one of
these. One poster called it a "joke bike" and another said, "great,
another office chair with wheels that is slower than a beach cruiser"
or something to that effect. I decided to check out this
"slower than a beach cruiser joke bike" myself and form my own
opinions. I found to my delight that these bikes are the most fun on
two wheels. I guess this is the part where I am supposed to
"apologize" (well it's not as fast as a low racer,
but...yada...yada...yada) on the bike's behalf for not being fast
enough to break Sam Whittingham's world record but I'm not. I will
say that I found it to be fast enough and comfortable to the point
that I'm calling it an ergonomic revelation. In fact I went ahead and
ordered one! So much for the "experts" who look at a picture on a
website and make their "decrees".

If I could afford it, I would order a BiGHA. They do have a 60 day
trial period so it's hard to lose. I believe I would wind up keeping
it. It seems like a really nice bike and made in America to boot!

My two cents:-)

Edward Wong
Orlando, FL


There's just so much more to a bike than mere weight and price. Sure,
if I were looking for a racing bike, especially one where I'd be doing
lots of climbing, weight would assume more importance. But for touring,
it's less so.
If I heard that such-and-such bike weighs 10 - 20 pounds more than
another that seems like it should be similar, the first thing I'd want
to know is: what's on that bike that added the weight? Is it just the
way it's built, as in thicker and stiffer frame, forks, etc.? How about
components? Does it come with fenders? All of these things add weight,
of course, but possibly the result is a better bike than the lighter
one. Better as in, what someone might want to do with it.
And that's where it comes down to having to actually see and ride the
bike, if at all possible. It might turn out that the weight matters
little in comparison with all the other features of the bike. Or, it may
just be a ton of pure garbage. But the only way of finding out for sure
is to see and (hopefully) ride the bike.
I'm looking forward to seeing a BigHA in the flesh. I suspect that I
won't really want one, since all of my biking niches are filled - my TE
does the job when I want a faster ride, and now I have a Speed to
complement my GTO. If I ever start doing a lot of air travel again, I'll
probably buy another Bike Friday SatRDay, but right now I'm pretty
satisfied with what I've got.


Still defending a bike you never saw and would never buy.

Tell us about all the other slow, 50 pound bikes with fenders that cost
$3000.00. Can't? I didn't think so.

Lorenzo L. Love
http://home.thegrid.net/~lllove

“In the old days being crazy meant something. Nowadays everybody’s crazy.”
Charles Manson

Larry Varney wrote:
Lorenzo L. Love wrote:

Do you think that for any given rider, the $3000.00 Bigha is as fast
as the Vision VR50 at about half the price? Or the RANS Stratus at
about half the price? Or the Easy Racer Tour Easy at about 2/3 the
price? Or the Lighting Phantom at about half the price? Can you tell
us if the Bigha is a fast as any bike in it's price range? I didn't
think so.

Now tell us about all the other slow, 50 pound bikes that cost
$3000.00. Can't? I didn't think so.

Lorenzo L. Love


Is you sole criteria as to worth the speed of a bike? And can you stop
responding before I've even answered?
How do you feel about bikes that weigh more than 50 pounds and cost
more than $3000? How about trikes? How does the BigHA rate in comparison
to a 70 pound trike tandem that goes for more than twice its cost? Do
you now think the BigHA is a great deal?







Do you think the Bigha is a trike? Or a tandem? Or are you grasping at
straws because you can't answer a simple question? What other slow, 50
pound bike costs $3000.00?

Lorenzo L. Love
http://home.thegrid.net/~lllove

Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand

Larry Varney wrote:
Lorenzo L. Love wrote:

Do you think that for any given rider, the $3000.00 Bigha is as fast
as the Vision VR50 at about half the price? Or the RANS Stratus at
about half the price? Or the Easy Racer Tour Easy at about 2/3 the
price? Or the Lighting Phantom at about half the price? Can you tell
us if the Bigha is a fast as any bike in it's price range? I didn't
think so.

Now tell us about all the other slow, 50 pound bikes that cost
$3000.00. Can't? I didn't think so.

Lorenzo L. Love


Is you sole criteria as to worth the speed of a bike? And can you stop
responding before I've even answered?
How do you feel about bikes that weigh more than 50 pounds and cost
more than $3000? How about trikes? How does the BigHA rate in comparison
to a 70 pound trike tandem that goes for more than twice its cost? Do
you now think the BigHA is a great deal?







Do you think the Bigha is a trike? Or a tandem? Or are you grasping at
straws because you can't answer a simple question? What other slow, 50
pound bike costs $3000.00?

Lorenzo L. Love
http://home.thegrid.net/~lllove

Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand

Edward Wong wrote:
But you can't afford it, can you? Who can afford to **** away money on
such an overpriced bike? Not when you can get a bike in the same class
and still have a couple thousand left over.

Lorenzo L. Love
http://home.thegrid.net/~lllove

Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand


That's your issue Lorenzo. You CAN'T afford it either. Show me a
similiar bike with ALL the features, quality, etc. for 2 grand less
and I'll show you some oceanfront property in Death Valley I'd like to
sell you very cheap!

Edward Wong
Orlando, FL

Are you going to pay $3000.00 for this bike?

I didn't think so.

Lorenzo L. Love
http://home.thegrid.net/~lllove

Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand

Edward Wong wrote:
But you can't afford it, can you? Who can afford to **** away money on
such an overpriced bike? Not when you can get a bike in the same class
and still have a couple thousand left over.

Lorenzo L. Love
http://home.thegrid.net/~lllove

Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand


That's your issue Lorenzo. You CAN'T afford it either. Show me a
similiar bike with ALL the features, quality, etc. for 2 grand less
and I'll show you some oceanfront property in Death Valley I'd like to
sell you very cheap!

Edward Wong
Orlando, FL

Are you going to pay $3000.00 for this bike?

I didn't think so.

Lorenzo L. Love
http://home.thegrid.net/~lllove

Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand

"Tom Thompson" wrote in message ...

"Edward Dolan" wrote in message
One of my best trolls ever and this guy with a double name composed of
Toms falls for it like a ton of bricks. Thanks for making my day Mr.
Unmitigated Crap. But you did not listen to what I had to say. What
and where is Westland or is it Wasteland? State? Country? But if you
don't care why should I?

This from someone who says that they always write exactly what they think?
You are not capable of trolling.

Ha! I got you didn't I?

It's too much fun tweaking you. Making fun of my name is something most
people grow out of by abut age 13 or so. That leads me to believe that you
are going to be easy.

Tweak away. This is all just fun and games to me.

As for whether or not I care where Westland is, that's an assumption on your
part. Not accurate though. Here, I'll give you another hint.....

Tom Thompson - Earth

It is not my intention ever to look up a place name so bland as to be
called Westland. You by no means have the dumbest name I ever heard
of. I once knew I guy named Harry Butts. But like you he was proud of
his name. I know for myself if I had a name like Edward Edwardson I
would sure as hell change it. One of the Edwards would have to go.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

"Tom Thompson" wrote in message ...

"Edward Dolan" wrote in message
One of my best trolls ever and this guy with a double name composed of
Toms falls for it like a ton of bricks. Thanks for making my day Mr.
Unmitigated Crap. But you did not listen to what I had to say. What
and where is Westland or is it Wasteland? State? Country? But if you
don't care why should I?

This from someone who says that they always write exactly what they think?
You are not capable of trolling.

Ha! I got you didn't I?

It's too much fun tweaking you. Making fun of my name is something most
people grow out of by abut age 13 or so. That leads me to believe that you
are going to be easy.

Tweak away. This is all just fun and games to me.

As for whether or not I care where Westland is, that's an assumption on your
part. Not accurate though. Here, I'll give you another hint.....

Tom Thompson - Earth

It is not my intention ever to look up a place name so bland as to be
called Westland. You by no means have the dumbest name I ever heard
of. I once knew I guy named Harry Butts. But like you he was proud of
his name. I know for myself if I had a name like Edward Edwardson I
would sure as hell change it. One of the Edwards would have to go.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

On 16 Aug 2003 20:27:17 -0700, (Edward Dolan) wrote:

"T
It is not my intention ever to look up a place name so bland as to be
called Westland. You by no means have the dumbest name I ever heard
of. I once knew I guy named Harry Butts. But like you he was proud of
his name. I know for myself if I had a name like Edward Edwardson I
would sure as hell change it. One of the Edwards would have to go.

I wonder if my old high school classmate ever changed his name--or
just went through life known as Sterling Silver.

Dave Clary/Corpus Christi, Tx
EZ-1SC Pilot (Texas P-38 Squadron Retired)
Home: http://home.stx.rr.com/dclary
P-38 Stuff: http://www.geocities.com/texasp38/texasp38.html
Never Forget: http://www.politicsandprotest.org

On 16 Aug 2003 20:27:17 -0700, (Edward Dolan) wrote:

"T
It is not my intention ever to look up a place name so bland as to be
called Westland. You by no means have the dumbest name I ever heard
of. I once knew I guy named Harry Butts. But like you he was proud of
his name. I know for myself if I had a name like Edward Edwardson I
would sure as hell change it. One of the Edwards would have to go.

I wonder if my old high school classmate ever changed his name--or
just went through life known as Sterling Silver.

Dave Clary/Corpus Christi, Tx
EZ-1SC Pilot (Texas P-38 Squadron Retired)
Home: http://home.stx.rr.com/dclary
P-38 Stuff: http://www.geocities.com/texasp38/texasp38.html
Never Forget: http://www.politicsandprotest.org