Pedestrian killed by cyclist in London

Alycidon wrote:
On Wednesday, 9 March 2016 11:20:02 UTC, John Smith wrote:

No arrests. At a guess, then, the pedestrian was crossing the road in
the middle of traffic. Very sad, but no more sad than when a psychopath
kills a pedestrian who is crossing in the middle of traffic. Something
that has apparently happened around 45,000 times this century.

Seems to be the case, yes.

QUOTE: "The cyclist stopped at the scene, which is near the junction with
Charlotte Road. He was not arrested, but police are now appealing for
witnesses to come forward so they can properly establish what happened.

The usual suspects usually construe a lack of arrests to mean that the
psychopath did no wrong, when it's a car involved. I wonder why the same
indulgence is not afforded to cyclists.

Oh, wait...

The Reliance's general manager Mario Assi, 45, told the Gazette: "She
came from one of the shops, crossed the road and the next thing she is
falling on the floor and the cyclist is falling as well. The cyclist got
up but she didn't move.

"I've known the area for years and you often get near misses with
cyclists when crossing the road. It is so unfortunate. How often do you
hear about a person getting hit by a bike and dying?

Probably about as often as you hear of someone getting hit by a car and
dying. Unfortunately, the latter happens tens of thousands times per day
in the world.

"The cyclist was so distressed and in such a bad way. He would have been
going quite fast. It was just the timing, if it was half a second later
or earlier she wouldn't have died, I don't think."

He definitely wasn't a psychopath then. They tend to shrug and post the
footage to FB.

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'It never gets any easier. You just get faster'
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JNugent wrote:
On 10/03/2016 10:18, Alycidon wrote:
On Thursday, 10 March 2016 09:58:03 UTC, John Smith wrote:

When the pedestrian is injured by a collision with a motor vehicle, the
driver is not mentioned. When the pedestrian is injured in a collision
with a bicycle, the vehicle is not mentioned - only the operator.

Note how the word "driver" is left out.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-35193735

Exceptionally, I shall not edit the name of the accused.

QUOTE: Ricky Hepworth, 24, of [xxxxxxxxxxxx], appeared at Doncaster
Magistrates' Court. He is charged with several other offences, including
aggravated vehicle taking, causing a death while driving uninsured, and
unlicensed and failing to stop at the scene of a collision. ENDQUOTE

So there you have it.

No driving licence.

No insurance.

So he definitely isn't a driver.

One who drives a vehicle or the animal that draws it; a charioteer,
coachman, cabman, etc.; also, one who drives a locomotive engine.
(Often with defining word prefixed, as cab-driver, engine-driver,
etc., for which see the first element.) Also in Trotting. Phr. in the
driver's seat, in a controlling position; in charge...'
(_OED Online_ accessed 11 March 2016)

He was the driver.

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john smith |MA (Hons)|MPhil (Hons)|CAPES (mention très bien)|LLB (Hons)
'It never gets any easier. You just get faster'
(Greg LeMond (1961 - ))

On 11/03/2016 09:21, John Smith wrote:
JNugent wrote:
On 10/03/2016 10:18, Alycidon wrote:
On Thursday, 10 March 2016 09:58:03 UTC, John Smith wrote:

When the pedestrian is injured by a collision with a motor vehicle, the
driver is not mentioned. When the pedestrian is injured in a collision
with a bicycle, the vehicle is not mentioned - only the operator.

Note how the word "driver" is left out.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-35193735

Exceptionally, I shall not edit the name of the accused.

QUOTE: Ricky Hepworth, 24, of [xxxxxxxxxxxx], appeared at Doncaster
Magistrates' Court. He is charged with several other offences, including
aggravated vehicle taking, causing a death while driving uninsured, and
unlicensed and failing to stop at the scene of a collision. ENDQUOTE

So there you have it.

No driving licence.

No insurance.

So he definitely isn't a driver.

One who drives a vehicle or the animal that draws it; a charioteer,
coachman, cabman, etc.; also, one who drives a locomotive engine.
(Often with defining word prefixed, as cab-driver, engine-driver,
etc., for which see the first element.) Also in Trotting. Phr. in the
driver's seat, in a controlling position; in charge...'
(_OED Online_ accessed 11 March 2016)

He was the driver.

Whatever the situation where you live, in the UK, drivers are tested and
licensed. Without having been tested (and having passed the tests) and
being licensed, you are not a driver; you are a mere cyclist (a status
which requires no testing, skill, knowledge, expense or human empathy).

That man was not qualified to be anything but a cyclist.

He is a cyclist. Nothing more.

JNugent wrote:
On 11/03/2016 09:21, John Smith wrote:
JNugent wrote:
On 10/03/2016 10:18, Alycidon wrote:
On Thursday, 10 March 2016 09:58:03 UTC, John Smith wrote:

When the pedestrian is injured by a collision with a motor vehicle, the
driver is not mentioned. When the pedestrian is injured in a collision
with a bicycle, the vehicle is not mentioned - only the operator.

Note how the word "driver" is left out.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-35193735

Exceptionally, I shall not edit the name of the accused.

QUOTE: Ricky Hepworth, 24, of [xxxxxxxxxxxx], appeared at Doncaster
Magistrates' Court. He is charged with several other offences, including
aggravated vehicle taking, causing a death while driving uninsured, and
unlicensed and failing to stop at the scene of a collision. ENDQUOTE

So there you have it.

No driving licence.

No insurance.

So he definitely isn't a driver.

One who drives a vehicle or the animal that draws it; a charioteer,
coachman, cabman, etc.; also, one who drives a locomotive engine.
(Often with defining word prefixed, as cab-driver, engine-driver,
etc., for which see the first element.) Also in Trotting. Phr. in the
driver's seat, in a controlling position; in charge...'
(_OED Online_ accessed 11 March 2016)

He was the driver.

Whatever the situation where you live, in the UK, drivers are tested and
licensed. Without having been tested (and having passed the tests) and
being licensed, you are not a driver; you are a mere cyclist (a status
which requires no testing, skill, knowledge, expense or human empathy).

That man was not qualified to be anything but a cyclist.

He is a cyclist. Nothing more.

There you have it: the psycho thinks his insane opinions trump the
dictionary.

He was driving the vehicle, therefore he was a driver, thicko.

--
john smith |MA (Hons)|MPhil (Hons)|CAPES (mention très bien)|LLB (Hons)
'It never gets any easier. You just get faster'
(Greg LeMond (1961 - ))

On 15/03/2016 13:46, John Smith wrote:
JNugent wrote:
On 11/03/2016 09:21, John Smith wrote:
JNugent wrote:
On 10/03/2016 10:18, Alycidon wrote:
On Thursday, 10 March 2016 09:58:03 UTC, John Smith wrote:

When the pedestrian is injured by a collision with a motor vehicle, the
driver is not mentioned. When the pedestrian is injured in a collision
with a bicycle, the vehicle is not mentioned - only the operator.

Note how the word "driver" is left out.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-35193735

Exceptionally, I shall not edit the name of the accused.

QUOTE: Ricky Hepworth, 24, of [xxxxxxxxxxxx], appeared at Doncaster
Magistrates' Court. He is charged with several other offences, including
aggravated vehicle taking, causing a death while driving uninsured, and
unlicensed and failing to stop at the scene of a collision. ENDQUOTE

So there you have it.

No driving licence.

No insurance.

So he definitely isn't a driver.

One who drives a vehicle or the animal that draws it; a charioteer,
coachman, cabman, etc.; also, one who drives a locomotive engine.
(Often with defining word prefixed, as cab-driver, engine-driver,
etc., for which see the first element.) Also in Trotting. Phr. in the
driver's seat, in a controlling position; in charge...'
(_OED Online_ accessed 11 March 2016)

He was the driver.

Whatever the situation where you live, in the UK, drivers are tested and
licensed. Without having been tested (and having passed the tests) and
being licensed, you are not a driver; you are a mere cyclist (a status
which requires no testing, skill, knowledge, expense or human empathy).

That man was not qualified to be anything but a cyclist.

He is a cyclist. Nothing more.

There you have it: the psycho thinks his insane opinions trump the
dictionary.

He was driving the vehicle, therefore he was a driver, thicko.

He isn't qualified to be a driver.

Would call yourself a pilot if you happened to worm your way into the
cockpit of an aeroplane? Or a master mariner if you were inadvisedly
allowed to put your hands on the wheel and the engine room telegraph?

JNugent wrote:
On 15/03/2016 13:46, John Smith wrote:
JNugent wrote:
On 11/03/2016 09:21, John Smith wrote:
JNugent wrote:
On 10/03/2016 10:18, Alycidon wrote:
On Thursday, 10 March 2016 09:58:03 UTC, John Smith wrote:

When the pedestrian is injured by a collision with a motor vehicle, the
driver is not mentioned. When the pedestrian is injured in a collision
with a bicycle, the vehicle is not mentioned - only the operator.

Note how the word "driver" is left out.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-35193735

Exceptionally, I shall not edit the name of the accused.

QUOTE: Ricky Hepworth, 24, of [xxxxxxxxxxxx], appeared at Doncaster
Magistrates' Court. He is charged with several other offences, including
aggravated vehicle taking, causing a death while driving uninsured, and
unlicensed and failing to stop at the scene of a collision. ENDQUOTE

So there you have it.

No driving licence.

No insurance.

So he definitely isn't a driver.

One who drives a vehicle or the animal that draws it; a charioteer,
coachman, cabman, etc.; also, one who drives a locomotive engine.
(Often with defining word prefixed, as cab-driver, engine-driver,
etc., for which see the first element.) Also in Trotting. Phr. in the
driver's seat, in a controlling position; in charge...'
(_OED Online_ accessed 11 March 2016)

He was the driver.

Whatever the situation where you live, in the UK, drivers are tested and
licensed. Without having been tested (and having passed the tests) and
being licensed, you are not a driver; you are a mere cyclist (a status
which requires no testing, skill, knowledge, expense or human empathy).

That man was not qualified to be anything but a cyclist.

He is a cyclist. Nothing more.

There you have it: the psycho thinks his insane opinions trump the
dictionary.

He was driving the vehicle, therefore he was a driver, thicko.

He isn't qualified to be a driver.

Would call yourself a pilot if you happened to worm your way into the
cockpit of an aeroplane? Or a master mariner if you were inadvisedly
allowed to put your hands on the wheel and the engine room telegraph?

'Driver' is not a legal term, thickwit. It is derived from the verb 'to
drive' and means 'one who drives'. It no more requires any test than does
'walker' or 'runner'.


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john smith |MA (Hons)|MPhil (Hons)|CAPES (mention très bien)|LLB (Hons)
'It never gets any easier. You just get faster'
(Greg LeMond (1961 - ))

On 15/03/2016 15:45, John Smith wrote:
JNugent wrote:
On 15/03/2016 13:46, John Smith wrote:
JNugent wrote:
On 11/03/2016 09:21, John Smith wrote:
JNugent wrote:
On 10/03/2016 10:18, Alycidon wrote:
On Thursday, 10 March 2016 09:58:03 UTC, John Smith wrote:

When the pedestrian is injured by a collision with a motor vehicle, the
driver is not mentioned. When the pedestrian is injured in a collision
with a bicycle, the vehicle is not mentioned - only the operator.

Note how the word "driver" is left out.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-35193735

Exceptionally, I shall not edit the name of the accused.

QUOTE: Ricky Hepworth, 24, of [xxxxxxxxxxxx], appeared at Doncaster
Magistrates' Court. He is charged with several other offences, including
aggravated vehicle taking, causing a death while driving uninsured, and
unlicensed and failing to stop at the scene of a collision. ENDQUOTE

So there you have it.

No driving licence.

No insurance.

So he definitely isn't a driver.

One who drives a vehicle or the animal that draws it; a charioteer,
coachman, cabman, etc.; also, one who drives a locomotive engine.
(Often with defining word prefixed, as cab-driver, engine-driver,
etc., for which see the first element.) Also in Trotting. Phr. in the
driver's seat, in a controlling position; in charge...'
(_OED Online_ accessed 11 March 2016)

He was the driver.

Whatever the situation where you live, in the UK, drivers are tested and
licensed. Without having been tested (and having passed the tests) and
being licensed, you are not a driver; you are a mere cyclist (a status
which requires no testing, skill, knowledge, expense or human empathy).

That man was not qualified to be anything but a cyclist.

He is a cyclist. Nothing more.

There you have it: the psycho thinks his insane opinions trump the
dictionary.

He was driving the vehicle, therefore he was a driver, thicko.

He isn't qualified to be a driver.

Would call yourself a pilot if you happened to worm your way into the
cockpit of an aeroplane? Or a master mariner if you were inadvisedly
allowed to put your hands on the wheel and the engine room telegraph?

'Driver' is not a legal term, thickwit. It is derived from the verb 'to
drive' and means 'one who drives'. It no more requires any test than does
'walker' or 'runner'.

Nonsense.

In civilised places, one needs to be trained, tested and licensed to be
a driver.

It's only cycling (or using a scrap merchant's horse and cart) which
requires no qualification.

The guy was perfectly - some might say supremely - qualified to be a
cyclist. Untrained, untested, unqualified, unlicensed and indifferent to
the rights and needs of others.

Yes - he was a cyclist. Every box ticked.

On Tuesday, 15 March 2016 15:46:03 UTC, John Smith wrote:

'Driver' is not a legal term, thickwit. It is derived from the verb 'to
drive' and means 'one who drives'. It no more requires any test than does
'walker' or 'runner'.

Indeed - who was the killer here?

THE DRIVER.

QUOTE:

"Sheffield Crown Court date set for Askern Boxing Day horror crash **DRIVER**"

Read mo http://www.southyorkshiretimes.co.uk...#ixzz42zOPuNwj

JNugent wrote:
On 15/03/2016 15:45, John Smith wrote:
JNugent wrote:
On 15/03/2016 13:46, John Smith wrote:
JNugent wrote:
On 11/03/2016 09:21, John Smith wrote:
JNugent wrote:
On 10/03/2016 10:18, Alycidon wrote:
On Thursday, 10 March 2016 09:58:03 UTC, John Smith wrote:

When the pedestrian is injured by a collision with a motor vehicle, the
driver is not mentioned. When the pedestrian is injured in a collision
with a bicycle, the vehicle is not mentioned - only the operator.

Note how the word "driver" is left out.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-35193735

Exceptionally, I shall not edit the name of the accused.

QUOTE: Ricky Hepworth, 24, of [xxxxxxxxxxxx], appeared at Doncaster
Magistrates' Court. He is charged with several other offences, including
aggravated vehicle taking, causing a death while driving uninsured, and
unlicensed and failing to stop at the scene of a collision. ENDQUOTE

So there you have it.

No driving licence.

No insurance.

So he definitely isn't a driver.

One who drives a vehicle or the animal that draws it; a charioteer,
coachman, cabman, etc.; also, one who drives a locomotive engine.
(Often with defining word prefixed, as cab-driver, engine-driver,
etc., for which see the first element.) Also in Trotting. Phr. in the
driver's seat, in a controlling position; in charge...'
(_OED Online_ accessed 11 March 2016)

He was the driver.

Whatever the situation where you live, in the UK, drivers are tested and
licensed. Without having been tested (and having passed the tests) and
being licensed, you are not a driver; you are a mere cyclist (a status
which requires no testing, skill, knowledge, expense or human empathy).

That man was not qualified to be anything but a cyclist.

He is a cyclist. Nothing more.

There you have it: the psycho thinks his insane opinions trump the
dictionary.

He was driving the vehicle, therefore he was a driver, thicko.

He isn't qualified to be a driver.

Would call yourself a pilot if you happened to worm your way into the
cockpit of an aeroplane? Or a master mariner if you were inadvisedly
allowed to put your hands on the wheel and the engine room telegraph?

'Driver' is not a legal term, thickwit. It is derived from the verb 'to
drive' and means 'one who drives'. It no more requires any test than does
'walker' or 'runner'.

Nonsense.

In civilised places, one needs to be trained, tested and licensed to be
a driver.

No, one has to be trained, tested and licensed to be a qualified driver.

To be a driver, one only has to know which pedals do what, what happens
when the wheel is turned, and how to operate the gears (on a manual).

He was a driver.

Now **** off and troll somewhere else, you thick ****.

--
john smith |MA (Hons)|MPhil (Hons)|CAPES (mention très bien)|LLB (Hons)
'It never gets any easier. You just get faster'
(Greg LeMond (1961 - ))

Alycidon wrote:
On Tuesday, 15 March 2016 15:46:03 UTC, John Smith wrote:

'Driver' is not a legal term, thickwit. It is derived from the verb 'to
drive' and means 'one who drives'. It no more requires any test than does
'walker' or 'runner'.

Indeed - who was the killer here?

THE DRIVER.

QUOTE:

"Sheffield Crown Court date set for Askern Boxing Day horror crash **DRIVER**"

Read mo http://www.southyorkshiretimes.co.uk...#ixzz42zOPuNwj

Yep, Nugent is just trolling. He deserves the standard punishment for
trolling.

--
john smith |MA (Hons)|MPhil (Hons)|CAPES (mention très bien)|LLB (Hons)
'It never gets any easier. You just get faster'
(Greg LeMond (1961 - ))