Oxford St.Cyclist V. cabbie in court, the final result

the taxi drivers witness was out of the country, but the cyclist's witnesses
turned up, the taxi driver (on his own) was not found to be credible.

http://road.cc/content/news/25146-lo...leared-assault

The report in the standard has a slightly different slant
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standa...ard-readers.do

the comments after it are telling: people are p@@@d off with cyclists in
London.

On 6 Oct, 08:30, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
the taxi drivers witness was out of the country, but the cyclist's witnesses
turned up, the taxi driver (on his own) was not found to be credible.

http://road.cc/content/news/25146-lo...led-taxi-drive...

The report in the standard has a slightly different slanthttp://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23884814-cyclist-is-cl...

the comments after it are telling: people are p@@@d off with cyclists in
London.

75% of the comments support the cyclist.

Apparently the taxi-driver's witness was another taxi-driver and was
out of the country. What a coincidence.

Squashme wrote:
On 6 Oct, 08:30, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
the taxi drivers witness was out of the country, but the cyclist's
witnesses
turned up, the taxi driver (on his own) was not found to be credible.

http://road.cc/content/news/25146-lo...led-taxi-drive...

The report in the standard has a slightly different
slanthttp://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23884814-cyclist-is-cl...

the comments after it are telling: people are p@@@d off with
cyclists in
London.

75% of the comments support the cyclist.

Apparently the taxi-driver's witness was another taxi-driver and was
out of the country. What a coincidence.

Whats the betting the cyclists witness's were cyclists?


--
Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike, like a skateboard, is
a kid's toy, not a viable form of transport.

On 6 Oct, 08:30, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
the taxi drivers witness was out of the country, but the cyclist's witnesses
turned up, the taxi driver (on his own) was not found to be credible.

http://road.cc/content/news/25146-lo...led-taxi-drive...

The report in the standard has a slightly different slanthttp://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23884814-cyclist-is-cl...

the comments after it are telling: people are p@@@d off with cyclists in
London.

And let's remember this pearl too:-

"The CPS rarely prosecute unless the chances of a conviction are very
high
indeed.

What I reckon happened is that this lycra lout picked a fight with the
wrong
bloke & came off worse. Now he is whinging like a baby and telling
lies to
gain sympathy from the cyclist ****** community.

I hope he gets a few years behind bars for assaulting an innocent taxi
driver. Might be a lesson to the other cyclist scum."

On 6 Oct, 08:30, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
the taxi drivers witness was out of the country, but the cyclist's witnesses
turned up, the taxi driver (on his own) was not found to be credible.

http://road.cc/content/news/25146-lo...led-taxi-drive...

The report in the standard has a slightly different slanthttp://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23884814-cyclist-is-cl...

the comments after it are telling: people are p@@@d off with cyclists in
London.

And remember JNugent:-

"Something you are likely to hear at some time on any given morning at
your
local Mags' Court:

"I'm not guilty, guv, it was all the other bloke's fault, honest, on
my
granny's eyes".

"Someone out there must have seen something"?

Well, quite. That appears to be this chap's problem. Advertising on
the
internet for a "witness" is more likely to devalue his defence than
strengthen it. It's obvious.

Let's see who the court believes."

Well, well.

On 6 Oct, 09:24, Squashme wrote:
On 6 Oct, 08:30, "Mrcheerful" wrote:

the taxi drivers witness was out of the country, but the cyclist's witnesses
turned up, the taxi driver (on his own) was not found to be credible.

http://road.cc/content/news/25146-lo...led-taxi-drive...

The report in the standard has a slightly different slanthttp://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23884814-cyclist-is-cl...

the comments after it are telling: people are p@@@d off with cyclists in
London.

And remember JNugent:-

"Something you are likely to hear at some time on any given morning at
your
local Mags' Court:

"I'm not guilty, guv, it was all the other bloke's fault, honest, on
my
granny's eyes".

"Someone out there must have seen something"?

Well, quite. That appears to be this chap's problem. Advertising on
the
internet for a "witness" is more likely to devalue his defence than
strengthen it. It's obvious.

Let's see who the court believes."

Well, well.

The scary thing is that they all can vote and sit on juries!

--
Simon Mason

On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 02:42:12 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On 6 Oct, 09:24, Squashme wrote:
On 6 Oct, 08:30, "Mrcheerful" wrote:

the taxi drivers witness was out of the country, but the cyclist's witnesses
turned up, the taxi driver (on his own) was not found to be credible.

http://road.cc/content/news/25146-lo...led-taxi-drive...

The report in the standard has a slightly different slanthttp://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23884814-cyclist-is-cl...

the comments after it are telling: people are p@@@d off with cyclists in
London.

And remember JNugent:-

"Something you are likely to hear at some time on any given morning at
your
local Mags' Court:

"I'm not guilty, guv, it was all the other bloke's fault, honest, on
my
granny's eyes".

"Someone out there must have seen something"?

Well, quite. That appears to be this chap's problem. Advertising on
the
internet for a "witness" is more likely to devalue his defence than
strengthen it. It's obvious.

Let's see who the court believes."

Well, well.

The scary thing is that they all can vote and sit on juries!

Do they let the mentally unsound sit on juries?

Tom Cwispin wrote:
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 02:42:12 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On 6 Oct, 09:24, Squashme wrote:
On 6 Oct, 08:30, "Mrcheerful" wrote:

the taxi drivers witness was out of the country, but the cyclist's
witnesses
turned up, the taxi driver (on his own) was not found to be
credible.

http://road.cc/content/news/25146-lo...led-taxi-drive...

The report in the standard has a slightly different
slanthttp://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23884814-cyclist-is-cl...

the comments after it are telling: people are p@@@d off with
cyclists in
London.

And remember JNugent:-

"Something you are likely to hear at some time on any given morning
at your
local Mags' Court:

"I'm not guilty, guv, it was all the other bloke's fault, honest, on
my
granny's eyes".

"Someone out there must have seen something"?

Well, quite. That appears to be this chap's problem. Advertising on
the
internet for a "witness" is more likely to devalue his defence than
strengthen it. It's obvious.

Let's see who the court believes."

Well, well.

The scary thing is that they all can vote and sit on juries!

Do they let the mentally unsound sit on juries?

They let cyclists sit on juries, so obviously yes.


--
Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike, like a skateboard, is
a kid's toy, not a viable form of transport.

On 06/10/2010 09:24, Squashme wrote:
On 6 Oct, 08:30, wrote:
the taxi drivers witness was out of the country, but the cyclist's witnesses
turned up, the taxi driver (on his own) was not found to be credible.

http://road.cc/content/news/25146-lo...led-taxi-drive...

The report in the standard has a slightly different slanthttp://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23884814-cyclist-is-cl...

the comments after it are telling: people are p@@@d off with cyclists in
London.

And remember JNugent:-

"Something you are likely to hear at some time on any given morning at
your local Mags' Court:
"I'm not guilty, guv, it was all the other bloke's fault, honest, on
my granny's eyes".
"Someone out there must have seen something"?
Well, quite. That appears to be this chap's problem. Advertising on
the internet for a "witness" is more likely to devalue his defence than
strengthen it. It's obvious.
Let's see who the court believes."

Well, well.

Indeed. I am surprised - and not a little dismayed - by that verdict.

Perhaps there's something the CPS can do about it. Let's hope so.

Failing to adjourn a case when the only *known* witness is going to be
available (but not on that particular day*) and when the "witnesses" for the
other side have only been produced via a public appeal seems like material
for a setting-aside (igf that's possible in a criminal case).

[*The quickest way to prevent witnesses coming forward in any case would be
to ban them from taking holidays until the case has been heard.]

On 6 Oct, 10:56, JNugent wrote:
On 06/10/2010 09:24, Squashme wrote:



On 6 Oct, 08:30, *wrote:
the taxi drivers witness was out of the country, but the cyclist's witnesses
turned up, the taxi driver (on his own) was not found to be credible.

http://road.cc/content/news/25146-lo...led-taxi-drive....

The report in the standard has a slightly different slanthttp://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23884814-cyclist-is-cl...

the comments after it are telling: people are p@@@d off with cyclists in
London.

And remember JNugent:-
"Something you are likely to hear at some time on any given morning at
your local Mags' Court:
"I'm not guilty, guv, it was all the other bloke's fault, honest, on
my granny's eyes".
"Someone out there must have seen something"?
Well, quite. That appears to be this chap's problem. Advertising on
the internet for a "witness" is more likely to devalue his defence than
strengthen it. It's obvious.
Let's see who the court believes."

Well, well.

Indeed. I am surprised - and not a little dismayed - by that verdict.

Good.


Perhaps there's something the CPS can do about it. Let's hope so.

Failing to adjourn a case when the only *known* witness is going to be
available (but not on that particular day*) and when the "witnesses" for the
other side have only been produced via a public appeal seems like material
for a setting-aside (igf that's possible in a criminal case).

[*The quickest way to prevent witnesses coming forward in any case would be
to ban them from taking holidays until the case has been heard.]

Perhaps this missing witness can be encouraged to stay in the country
if the taxi-driver is charged now.

Perhaps there's something the CPS can do about it. Let's hope so.