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good news guys!!! cars r on the way out!!!
if u have not heard about peak oil, here is an excellent article http://www.zmag.org/content/showarti...10&ItemID=8454 |
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"verbluten" wrote in message ...
good news guys!!! cars r on the way out!!! if u have not heard about peak oil, here is an excellent article Grrr... so now I'll have to save up just to oil my chain? cheers, GPL |
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"verbluten" == verbluten writes:
verbluten good news guys!!! cars r on the way out!!! if u have not verbluten heard about peak oil, here is an excellent article verbluten http://www.zmag.org/content/showarti...10&ItemID=8454 This is good news because? I don't mean to be flippant but if the theories about peak oil are correct then we're all in for a really rough ride, something akin to the depression of the thirties. Unless of course someone finds a sustainable energy source. -- Cheers | ~~ __@ Euan | ~~ _-\, Melbourne, Australia | ~ (*)/ (*) |
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verbluten Wrote: good news guys!!! cars r on the way out!!! if u have not heard about peak oil, here is an excellent article http://www.zmag.org/content/showarti...10&ItemID=8454 Yippee, and what shall we replace them with? Flippancy aside, Australi better start that mass conversation to natural gas real soon. And fin alternative to all those *extremely useful* petrochemical products w ALL rely upon. Peak oil is still a theory, and even if it proves true the demise of car culture is nothing to to really get excited about. W will all suffer, unless respective multinational corporates governments pull digit out of orifice. Further cheery reading: http://www.dieoff.com/ http://www.peakoil.com/ http://www.hubbertpeak.com -- cfsmtb |
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cfsmtb Wrote: Yippee, and what shall we replace them all with? Flippancy aside Australia better start that mass conversion to natural gas in the nex 5-10 years. And find viable alternatives to all those *extremel useful* petrochemical products we ALL rely upon. Peak oil is still theory, and even if it proves true, the demise of car culture i nothing to to really get excited about. We will all suffer, unles respective multinational corporations & governments pull digits out o respective orifices Further cheery reading http://www.dieoff.com/ http://www.peakoil.com/ http://www.hubbertpeak.com/ It will be interesting to see what happens to international travel pedalling passengers a la flintstones? cool - instant recumben training and no more DVT :eek -- endroll |
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verbluten wrote:
good news guys!!! cars r on the way out!!! if u have not heard about peak oil, here is an excellent article http://www.zmag.org/content/showarti...10&ItemID=8454 I didn't read the whole article, I'm too tired :-) Petrol prices would have to reach insane levels before the car would disappear entirely, and even then they'd only disappear until a different type of motor was produced. Those in the UK are currently experiencing fun prices of roughly 86.9 p/L, or AU$2.02 per litre. When I was over there 12 months ago, the price was 79.9 p/L. The average car in Aus is your typical commodore or falcon. The average cars over there are toyota echo's, corollas, and other similar sized cars from various brands. Cars will not disappear, they will just get smaller and smaller. As petrol prices get higher and higher, our cars will just get smaller and smaller. Diesel will start to become a more viable option (I'd say around half of all cars in the UK were diesels, even the new Toyota Echo/Yaris had a diesel engine option.) and motorbikes and bicycles :-) will become more attractive for commuting. Basically, people will have to get smarter when it comes to transporting themselves. Once petrol is pretty much obsolete in a few decades, fully electric cars and hydrogen cell cars will no doubt be well and truly available to the general public. -- SL "The essence of propaganda consists in winning people over to an idea so sincerely, so vitally, that in the end they succumb to it utterly and can never again escape from it" Joseph Goebbels - Nazi Minister of Propaganda, 1933 - 1945 |
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Petrol has been rising for years.
Aussies in this time bought more and more gas-guzzling off-road trucks (also known as 4wd's). Sales of v8 Commodores and Falcons boomed. Remember the 80's when Ford dumped the V8, and the only reason why Holden didnt was to keep Peter Brock going at Bathurst. It will take a bigger economic crash to make Aussies change their ways. Diesel isnt much of an alternative when it costs more in Australia. Diesel is more common in Europe because it isnt taxed as much as petrol, and is therefore cheaper than petrol. Paul I didn't read the whole article, I'm too tired :-) Petrol prices would have to reach insane levels before the car would disappear entirely, and even then they'd only disappear until a different type of motor was produced. Those in the UK are currently experiencing fun prices of roughly 86.9 p/L, or AU$2.02 per litre. When I was over there 12 months ago, the price was 79.9 p/L. The average car in Aus is your typical commodore or falcon. The average cars over there are toyota echo's, corollas, and other similar sized cars from various brands. Cars will not disappear, they will just get smaller and smaller. As petrol prices get higher and higher, our cars will just get smaller and smaller. Diesel will start to become a more viable option (I'd say around half of all cars in the UK were diesels, even the new Toyota Echo/Yaris had a diesel engine option.) and motorbikes and bicycles :-) will become more attractive for commuting. Basically, people will have to get smarter when it comes to transporting themselves. Once petrol is pretty much obsolete in a few decades, fully electric cars and hydrogen cell cars will no doubt be well and truly available to the general public. -- SL "The essence of propaganda consists in winning people over to an idea so sincerely, so vitally, that in the end they succumb to it utterly and can never again escape from it" Joseph Goebbels - Nazi Minister of Propaganda, 1933 - 1945 |
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