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Tree sap weapon makes cyclists fall off
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From MrCheerful : On 23/09/2016 10:37, Bod wrote: On 23/09/2016 10:08, Peter Keller wrote: On 22.09.2016 23:07, MrCheerful wrote: Why can't the cyclists just slow down? Or use more viable transport? What is more viable transport? He thinks that cars don't skid on slippery roads and crash into buildings/people. That happens on virtually a weekly basis. Pleny of news reports verify this fact. Pleny? I have skidded, and drifted, quite literally thousands of times (I used to race a lot) and have never fallen from my car as a result. You seem to be implying that because you can fall off bicycles they are not viable enough transport. Do you feel about motorcycles? Oopsy daze! What I meant to ask was: Do you feel the same about motorcycles? |
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Tree sap weapon makes cyclists fall off
On 23/09/2016 13:35, MrCheerful wrote:
On 23/09/2016 10:37, Bod wrote: On 23/09/2016 10:08, Peter Keller wrote: On 22.09.2016 23:07, MrCheerful wrote: Why can't the cyclists just slow down? Or use more viable transport? What is more viable transport? He thinks that cars don't skid on slippery roads and crash into buildings/people. That happens on virtually a weekly basis. Pleny of news reports verify this fact. Pleny? I have skidded, and drifted, quite literally thousands of times (I used to race a lot) and have never fallen from my car as a result. A race track provides space for the skilled and unskilled to do it (how do you know which you are?) and by lapping a race track, the opportunity exists to learn cornering speeds. But we're not discussing a race track. Just like drivers, different cyclists have different levels of bicycle control skills. |
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Tree sap weapon makes cyclists fall off
On 23/09/2016 19:45, TMS320 wrote:
On 23/09/2016 13:35, MrCheerful wrote: On 23/09/2016 10:37, Bod wrote: On 23/09/2016 10:08, Peter Keller wrote: On 22.09.2016 23:07, MrCheerful wrote: Why can't the cyclists just slow down? Or use more viable transport? What is more viable transport? He thinks that cars don't skid on slippery roads and crash into buildings/people. That happens on virtually a weekly basis. Pleny of news reports verify this fact. Pleny? I have skidded, and drifted, quite literally thousands of times (I used to race a lot) and have never fallen from my car as a result. A race track provides space for the skilled and unskilled to do it (how do you know which you are?) and by lapping a race track, the opportunity exists to learn cornering speeds. But we're not discussing a race track. Just like drivers, different cyclists have different levels of bicycle control skills. The question was about viable transport, I have never fallen off a car while skidding, either on the track or road. Yet I have fallen off bicycles and motorcycles due to skidding. ergo, which method of travel is better to avoid falling during a skid? A car is. If the lady in question had been driving a car at the exact same place, she would not have been hurt by falling. |
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Tree sap weapon makes cyclists fall off
On 23/09/2016 19:57, MrCheerful wrote:
On 23/09/2016 19:45, TMS320 wrote: On 23/09/2016 13:35, MrCheerful wrote: On 23/09/2016 10:37, Bod wrote: On 23/09/2016 10:08, Peter Keller wrote: On 22.09.2016 23:07, MrCheerful wrote: Why can't the cyclists just slow down? Or use more viable transport? What is more viable transport? He thinks that cars don't skid on slippery roads and crash into buildings/people. That happens on virtually a weekly basis. Pleny of news reports verify this fact. Pleny? I have skidded, and drifted, quite literally thousands of times (I used to race a lot) and have never fallen from my car as a result. A race track provides space for the skilled and unskilled to do it (how do you know which you are?) and by lapping a race track, the opportunity exists to learn cornering speeds. But we're not discussing a race track. Just like drivers, different cyclists have different levels of bicycle control skills. The question was about viable transport, I have never fallen off a car while skidding, either on the track or road. Yet I have fallen off bicycles and motorcycles due to skidding.ergo, which method of travel is better to avoid falling during a skid? A car is. If the lady in question had been driving a car at the exact same place, she would not have been hurt by falling. People crash cars (into ditches, trees, bridges and buildings) after skidding, and sometimes kill themselves and others, so trying to constrain the result to "falling off" in the absence of any other effect is just being childish. |
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Tree sap weapon makes cyclists fall off
On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 09:19:02 +0100, TMS320 wrote:
On 22/09/2016 12:07, MrCheerful wrote: Why can't the cyclists just slow down? Compared to what? Compared to whatever this reference is, how do you know they didn't? They clearly weren't paying sufficient attention to their surroundings. If I skid my car on black ice and kill somebody, I can't say it was the council's fault. -- She was engaged to a boyfriend with a wooden leg but broke it off. |
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Tree sap weapon makes cyclists fall off
On 23-Sep-16 11:37 AM, Bod wrote:
On 23/09/2016 10:08, Peter Keller wrote: On 22.09.2016 23:07, MrCheerful wrote: Why can't the cyclists just slow down? Or use more viable transport? What is more viable transport? He thinks that cars don't skid on slippery roads and crash into buildings/people. That happens on virtually a weekly basis. Pleny of news reports verify this fact. But they don't just fall over. |
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Tree sap weapon makes cyclists fall off
On 23/09/2016 20:57, James Wilkinson wrote:
On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 09:19:02 +0100, TMS320 wrote: On 22/09/2016 12:07, MrCheerful wrote: Why can't the cyclists just slow down? Compared to what? Compared to whatever this reference is, how do you know they didn't? They clearly weren't paying sufficient attention to their surroundings. If I skid my car on black ice and kill somebody, I can't say it was the council's fault. Correct. It wasn't me suggesting that anything was the council's fault. I was just replying to the whingeing from Cheerless. It's good of you to accept the possibility that a driver can cause a car to skid on a public road and kill somebody, without wriggling that it doesn't count because the driver hasn't fallen off. |
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Tree sap weapon makes cyclists fall off
On 23-Sep-16 11:40 PM, TMS320 wrote:
On 23/09/2016 20:57, James Wilkinson wrote: On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 09:19:02 +0100, TMS320 wrote: On 22/09/2016 12:07, MrCheerful wrote: Why can't the cyclists just slow down? Compared to what? Compared to whatever this reference is, how do you know they didn't? They clearly weren't paying sufficient attention to their surroundings. If I skid my car on black ice and kill somebody, I can't say it was the council's fault. Correct. It wasn't me suggesting that anything was the council's fault. I was just replying to the whingeing from Cheerless. It's good of you to accept the possibility that a driver can cause a car to skid on a public road and kill somebody, without wriggling that it doesn't count because the driver hasn't fallen off. Have you actually READ the thread title? |
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Tree sap weapon makes cyclists fall off
On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 22:40:47 +0100, TMS320 wrote:
On 23/09/2016 20:57, James Wilkinson wrote: On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 09:19:02 +0100, TMS320 wrote: On 22/09/2016 12:07, MrCheerful wrote: Why can't the cyclists just slow down? Compared to what? Compared to whatever this reference is, how do you know they didn't? They clearly weren't paying sufficient attention to their surroundings. If I skid my car on black ice and kill somebody, I can't say it was the council's fault. Correct. It wasn't me suggesting that anything was the council's fault. I was just replying to the whingeing from Cheerless. It's good of you to accept the possibility that a driver can cause a car to skid on a public road and kill somebody, without wriggling that it doesn't count because the driver hasn't fallen off. My point that appears to have escaped you is that nobody should be doing anything about the trees. The cyclists need to take responsibility for their own actions, just as car drivers do with ice. -- They say Confucius does his crosswords with a pen. |
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Tree sap weapon makes cyclists fall off
On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 22:45:47 +0100, JNugent wrote:
On 23-Sep-16 11:40 PM, TMS320 wrote: On 23/09/2016 20:57, James Wilkinson wrote: On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 09:19:02 +0100, TMS320 wrote: On 22/09/2016 12:07, MrCheerful wrote: Why can't the cyclists just slow down? Compared to what? Compared to whatever this reference is, how do you know they didn't? They clearly weren't paying sufficient attention to their surroundings. If I skid my car on black ice and kill somebody, I can't say it was the council's fault. Correct. It wasn't me suggesting that anything was the council's fault. I was just replying to the whingeing from Cheerless. It's good of you to accept the possibility that a driver can cause a car to skid on a public road and kill somebody, without wriggling that it doesn't count because the driver hasn't fallen off. Have you actually READ the thread title? He never seems to read anything anyone writes properly. Maybe he cycles because he failed the driving theory test, as he can't read? -- System error 4C: kernel panic |
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