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On 17/07/13 01:49, JNugent wrote:
On 16/07/2013 22:27, Bertie Wooster wrote: On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 20:32:17 +0100, JNugent wrote: On 16/07/2013 19:54, Bertie Wooster wrote: On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 18:25:36 +0100, JNugent wrote: PW Lee in another newsgroup (and referring to a driver who had been involved in a traffic accident): QUOTE: Why is he not being charged with both failure to stop after the initial collision and dangerous driving? He's clearly guilty of both. ENDQUOTE How about High Treason as well? QUOTE: And there is some evidence that he routinely breaks the law by driving the wrong way along this one-way street as a shortcut - no doubt cctv footage could be reviewed to substantiate that. ENDQUOTE I'd be all for that being done routinely and significant penalties being dealt out to offenders. Anyone care to hazard a submission on what class of vehicular traffic most often ignores one-way working? It's not the traffic that ignored one-way working, it is the vehicle operator. Quite so. And in/on what sort of vehicle does the operator most frequently ignore one-way working, plus red traffic lights, pedestrian-only status of a facility, etc? In this case: http://www.surreycomet.co.uk/news/ki...t_spooked_him/ It appears that the BMW driver was so shocked that a law abiding cyclist told him that he was going the wrong way down a one way street, that he collided with the cyclist before ploughing into several pedestrians, a brick wall and a London bus. The comments section of the report says it all. What is it about straightforward questions that confuses so many folk? In/on what sort of vehicle does the operator most frequently ignore one-way working, plus red traffic lights, pedestrian-only status of a facility, etc? Ambulance? |
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On 16/07/2013 22:27, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 20:32:17 +0100, JNugent wrote: On 16/07/2013 19:54, Bertie Wooster wrote: On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 18:25:36 +0100, JNugent wrote: PW Lee in another newsgroup (and referring to a driver who had been involved in a traffic accident): QUOTE: Why is he not being charged with both failure to stop after the initial collision and dangerous driving? He's clearly guilty of both. ENDQUOTE How about High Treason as well? QUOTE: And there is some evidence that he routinely breaks the law by driving the wrong way along this one-way street as a shortcut - no doubt cctv footage could be reviewed to substantiate that. ENDQUOTE I'd be all for that being done routinely and significant penalties being dealt out to offenders. Anyone care to hazard a submission on what class of vehicular traffic most often ignores one-way working? It's not the traffic that ignored one-way working, it is the vehicle operator. Quite so. And in/on what sort of vehicle does the operator most frequently ignore one-way working, plus red traffic lights, pedestrian-only status of a facility, etc? In this case: http://www.surreycomet.co.uk/news/ki...t_spooked_him/ It appears that the BMW driver was so shocked that a law abiding cyclist told him that he was going the wrong way down a one way street, that he collided with the cyclist before ploughing into several pedestrians, a brick wall and a London bus. The comments section of the report says it all. Given where the car ended up he was not travelling the wrong way down Fife Road, but did turn the wrong way on Clarence Street, but this was after the cyclist shouted at him. |
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On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 23:58:02 +0100, Judith
wrote: On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 19:54:19 +0100, Bertie Wooster wrote: snip Anyone care to hazard a submission on what class of vehicular traffic most often ignores one-way working? It's not the traffic that ignored one-way working, it is the vehicle operator. In this case a BMW driver. Poor old Crispin - still cannot understand a simple question. Here it is again: "Anyone care to hazard a submission on what class of vehicular traffic most often ignores one-way working?" I don't think that you heard me. It ain't vehicular traffic which ignores one-way working, it is the drivers of vehicular traffic. I suspect their class is most often middle class. But I don't know. Have you any statistics on the matter? Come on now - you can do it. |
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On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 06:50:11 +0100, Tony Dragon
wrote: On 16/07/2013 22:27, Bertie Wooster wrote: On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 20:32:17 +0100, JNugent wrote: On 16/07/2013 19:54, Bertie Wooster wrote: On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 18:25:36 +0100, JNugent wrote: PW Lee in another newsgroup (and referring to a driver who had been involved in a traffic accident): QUOTE: Why is he not being charged with both failure to stop after the initial collision and dangerous driving? He's clearly guilty of both. ENDQUOTE How about High Treason as well? QUOTE: And there is some evidence that he routinely breaks the law by driving the wrong way along this one-way street as a shortcut - no doubt cctv footage could be reviewed to substantiate that. ENDQUOTE I'd be all for that being done routinely and significant penalties being dealt out to offenders. Anyone care to hazard a submission on what class of vehicular traffic most often ignores one-way working? It's not the traffic that ignored one-way working, it is the vehicle operator. Quite so. And in/on what sort of vehicle does the operator most frequently ignore one-way working, plus red traffic lights, pedestrian-only status of a facility, etc? In this case: http://www.surreycomet.co.uk/news/ki...t_spooked_him/ It appears that the BMW driver was so shocked that a law abiding cyclist told him that he was going the wrong way down a one way street, that he collided with the cyclist before ploughing into several pedestrians, a brick wall and a London bus. The comments section of the report says it all. Given where the car ended up he was not travelling the wrong way down Fife Road, but did turn the wrong way on Clarence Street, but this was after the cyclist shouted at him. Why do you suppose the cyclist shouted at him - perhaps because he was about the drive the wrong way around the gyratory? |
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On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 00:49:00 +0100, JNugent
wrote: On 16/07/2013 22:27, Bertie Wooster wrote: On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 20:32:17 +0100, JNugent wrote: On 16/07/2013 19:54, Bertie Wooster wrote: On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 18:25:36 +0100, JNugent wrote: PW Lee in another newsgroup (and referring to a driver who had been involved in a traffic accident): QUOTE: Why is he not being charged with both failure to stop after the initial collision and dangerous driving? He's clearly guilty of both. ENDQUOTE How about High Treason as well? QUOTE: And there is some evidence that he routinely breaks the law by driving the wrong way along this one-way street as a shortcut - no doubt cctv footage could be reviewed to substantiate that. ENDQUOTE I'd be all for that being done routinely and significant penalties being dealt out to offenders. Anyone care to hazard a submission on what class of vehicular traffic most often ignores one-way working? It's not the traffic that ignored one-way working, it is the vehicle operator. Quite so. And in/on what sort of vehicle does the operator most frequently ignore one-way working, plus red traffic lights, pedestrian-only status of a facility, etc? In this case: http://www.surreycomet.co.uk/news/ki...t_spooked_him/ It appears that the BMW driver was so shocked that a law abiding cyclist told him that he was going the wrong way down a one way street, that he collided with the cyclist before ploughing into several pedestrians, a brick wall and a London bus. The comments section of the report says it all. What is it about straightforward questions that confuses so many folk? In/on what sort of vehicle does the operator most frequently ignore one-way working, plus red traffic lights, pedestrian-only status of a facility, etc? Motor vehicle. |
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JNugent wrote:
PW Lee in another newsgroup (and referring to a driver who had been involved in a traffic accident): QUOTE: Why is he not being charged with both failure to stop after the initial collision and dangerous driving? He's clearly guilty of both. ENDQUOTE How about High Treason as well? QUOTE: And there is some evidence that he routinely breaks the law by driving the wrong way along this one-way street as a shortcut - no doubt cctv footage could be reviewed to substantiate that. ENDQUOTE I'd be all for that being done routinely and significant penalties being dealt out to offenders. Anyone care to hazard a submission on what class of vehicular traffic most often ignores one-way working? A psycholist told me that stories such as this only make the news because of their extreme rarity, so the answer is NOT cars. |
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On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:12:40 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote: JNugent wrote: PW Lee in another newsgroup (and referring to a driver who had been involved in a traffic accident): QUOTE: Why is he not being charged with both failure to stop after the initial collision and dangerous driving? He's clearly guilty of both. ENDQUOTE How about High Treason as well? QUOTE: And there is some evidence that he routinely breaks the law by driving the wrong way along this one-way street as a shortcut - no doubt cctv footage could be reviewed to substantiate that. ENDQUOTE I'd be all for that being done routinely and significant penalties being dealt out to offenders. Anyone care to hazard a submission on what class of vehicular traffic most often ignores one-way working? A psycholist told me that stories such as this only make the news because of their extreme rarity, so the answer is NOT cars. When was the last time you heard of a cyclist injuring three people before crashing into a brick wall and a bus? This sort of event, if extremely rare with motor vehicles, never happens with cyclists. |
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Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:12:40 +0100, "Mrcheerful" wrote: JNugent wrote: PW Lee in another newsgroup (and referring to a driver who had been involved in a traffic accident): QUOTE: Why is he not being charged with both failure to stop after the initial collision and dangerous driving? He's clearly guilty of both. ENDQUOTE How about High Treason as well? QUOTE: And there is some evidence that he routinely breaks the law by driving the wrong way along this one-way street as a shortcut - no doubt cctv footage could be reviewed to substantiate that. ENDQUOTE I'd be all for that being done routinely and significant penalties being dealt out to offenders. Anyone care to hazard a submission on what class of vehicular traffic most often ignores one-way working? A psycholist told me that stories such as this only make the news because of their extreme rarity, so the answer is NOT cars. When was the last time you heard of a cyclist injuring three people before crashing into a brick wall and a bus? You are evading the question asked, how unusual. |
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On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:29:57 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote: Bertie Wooster wrote: On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:12:40 +0100, "Mrcheerful" wrote: JNugent wrote: PW Lee in another newsgroup (and referring to a driver who had been involved in a traffic accident): QUOTE: Why is he not being charged with both failure to stop after the initial collision and dangerous driving? He's clearly guilty of both. ENDQUOTE How about High Treason as well? QUOTE: And there is some evidence that he routinely breaks the law by driving the wrong way along this one-way street as a shortcut - no doubt cctv footage could be reviewed to substantiate that. ENDQUOTE I'd be all for that being done routinely and significant penalties being dealt out to offenders. Anyone care to hazard a submission on what class of vehicular traffic most often ignores one-way working? A psycholist told me that stories such as this only make the news because of their extreme rarity, so the answer is NOT cars. When was the last time you heard of a cyclist injuring three people before crashing into a brick wall and a bus? You are evading the question asked, how unusual. But you had already answered the question, with, what I can only assume, is something you can support with data. |
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You really couldn't make it up...
Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:29:57 +0100, "Mrcheerful" wrote: Bertie Wooster wrote: On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:12:40 +0100, "Mrcheerful" wrote: JNugent wrote: PW Lee in another newsgroup (and referring to a driver who had been involved in a traffic accident): QUOTE: Why is he not being charged with both failure to stop after the initial collision and dangerous driving? He's clearly guilty of both. ENDQUOTE How about High Treason as well? QUOTE: And there is some evidence that he routinely breaks the law by driving the wrong way along this one-way street as a shortcut - no doubt cctv footage could be reviewed to substantiate that. ENDQUOTE I'd be all for that being done routinely and significant penalties being dealt out to offenders. Anyone care to hazard a submission on what class of vehicular traffic most often ignores one-way working? A psycholist told me that stories such as this only make the news because of their extreme rarity, so the answer is NOT cars. When was the last time you heard of a cyclist injuring three people before crashing into a brick wall and a bus? You are evading the question asked, how unusual. But you had already answered the question, with, what I can only assume, is something you can support with data. Anyway, why should anyone want to equally compare breaking the law in this way when it is considered a far greater crime to motor, rather than cycle, the wrong way through a one-way system? -- Alexis |
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