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On 18/07/13 11:35, JNugent wrote:
On 18/07/2013 02:03, Paul Cummins wrote: In article , (JNugent) wrote: Police Car...? OK... Just for the kids, I'll throw in the word "unlawfully". I stand by my answer. So you insist that I will - or anyone - see a police car being driven along the footway more frequently than we will see a bicycle being ridden along it, do you? Just to clarify, I meant Planet Earth, not your obviously-other world. Well, if it's any help. I saw 4 being driven on a pavement tonight. |
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Tosspot wrote:
On 18/07/13 11:35, JNugent wrote: On 18/07/2013 02:03, Paul Cummins wrote: In article , (JNugent) wrote: Police Car...? OK... Just for the kids, I'll throw in the word "unlawfully". I stand by my answer. So you insist that I will - or anyone - see a police car being driven along the footway more frequently than we will see a bicycle being ridden along it, do you? Just to clarify, I meant Planet Earth, not your obviously-other world. Well, if it's any help. I saw 4 being driven on a pavement tonight. You saw four Police cars making their journey on a footway? You really should report that. |
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On Thursday, 18 July 2013 19:51:00 UTC+1, Paul Cummins wrote:
Who to? That should be "to whom?" unless you want Jim to nick you for grammar. |
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Squashme wrote:
On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 7:48:25 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 17/07/2013 12:53, Pristine Bruise wrote: John Benn wrote: "Pristine Bruise" wrote in message ... Bertie Wooster wrote: On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:29:57 +0100, "Mrcheerful" wrote: Bertie Wooster wrote: On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:12:40 +0100, "Mrcheerful" wrote: JNugent wrote: PW Lee in another newsgroup (and referring to a driver who had been involved in a traffic accident): QUOTE: Why is he not being charged with both failure to stop after the initial collision and dangerous driving? He's clearly guilty of both. ENDQUOTE How about High Treason as well? QUOTE: And there is some evidence that he routinely breaks the law by driving the wrong way along this one-way street as a shortcut - no doubt cctv footage could be reviewed to substantiate that. ENDQUOTE I'd be all for that being done routinely and significant penalties being dealt out to offenders. Anyone care to hazard a submission on what class of vehicular traffic most often ignores one-way working? A psycholist told me that stories such as this only make the news because of their extreme rarity, so the answer is NOT cars. When was the last time you heard of a cyclist injuring three people before crashing into a brick wall and a bus? You are evading the question asked, how unusual. But you had already answered the question, with, what I can only assume, is something you can support with data. Anyway, why should anyone want to equally compare breaking the law in this way when it is considered a far greater crime to motor, rather than cycle, the wrong way through a one-way system? If you kill someone while on a bicycle, the law will treat you in exactly the same way as if you were driving a car or lorry. Exactly as it should be, but the potential to kill someone is less when cycling than driving. In that case, the cyclist should be punished more severely, since he cannot so easily plead that it was just one of those things. IOW, he's more likely to have been trying to do it, or at least to have been far more reckless as to whether or not it happened. Wrong. The motorist should be punished more severely because, knowing that his vehicle was far more likely to kill, he still drove recklessly, with full awareness that, in the event of an "accident", he would be well protected by his chosen vehicle but his victim might not have that advantage. Sadly motorists think that, because they have bought an advantage over others, their privilege should extend to an immunity from the foreseeable negative consequences of this advantage. Motorists seem to think that the bull and the china shop can be equally to blame, and indeed wish to blame the china more for its negligent fragility, and the shop for being sited where a bull might wish to travel. I think that is a particularly well worded post - even if my view is partisan (although I am still both a motorist and cyclist... not at the same time, haha). In fairness, it could be pointed out that your post is a generalisation against motorists but, in this group, that hardly matters as here (generally) all cyclists are painted as 'psycholists'. -- Alexis |
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On 18/07/2013 19:14, Tosspot wrote:
On 18/07/13 11:35, JNugent wrote: On 18/07/2013 02:03, Paul Cummins wrote: In article , (JNugent) wrote: Police Car...? OK... Just for the kids, I'll throw in the word "unlawfully". I stand by my answer. So you insist that I will - or anyone - see a police car being driven along the footway more frequently than we will see a bicycle being ridden along it, do you? Just to clarify, I meant Planet Earth, not your obviously-other world. Well, if it's any help. I saw 4 being driven on a pavement tonight. I have driven my car on the footway several times today. Not a problem. And you're just being silly, aren't you? |
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On 19/07/13 01:35, JNugent wrote:
On 18/07/2013 19:14, Tosspot wrote: On 18/07/13 11:35, JNugent wrote: On 18/07/2013 02:03, Paul Cummins wrote: In article , (JNugent) wrote: Police Car...? OK... Just for the kids, I'll throw in the word "unlawfully". I stand by my answer. So you insist that I will - or anyone - see a police car being driven along the footway more frequently than we will see a bicycle being ridden along it, do you? Just to clarify, I meant Planet Earth, not your obviously-other world. Well, if it's any help. I saw 4 being driven on a pavement tonight. I have driven my car on the footway several times today. Not a problem. And you're just being silly, aren't you? Mea culpa. |
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On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 00:35:33 +0100, JNugent
wrote: On 18/07/2013 19:14, Tosspot wrote: On 18/07/13 11:35, JNugent wrote: On 18/07/2013 02:03, Paul Cummins wrote: In article , (JNugent) wrote: Police Car...? OK... Just for the kids, I'll throw in the word "unlawfully". I stand by my answer. So you insist that I will - or anyone - see a police car being driven along the footway more frequently than we will see a bicycle being ridden along it, do you? Just to clarify, I meant Planet Earth, not your obviously-other world. Well, if it's any help. I saw 4 being driven on a pavement tonight. I have driven my car on the footway several times today. Cars being illegally driven onto, and parked, on the footway by criminals is a chronic problem in parts of London. http://goo.gl/maps/HKNEy Clare, who works in Central London says that cyclists on the footway is a chronic problem also. However, I have scoured Google Streetview on the area around Kingsway, where Clare works, but have not found one example to show you. I did find this, where cyclists are actively encouraged to ride on the footway: http://goo.gl/maps/oDsyV Not a problem. And you're just being silly, aren't you? |
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Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 00:35:33 +0100, JNugent wrote: On 18/07/2013 19:14, Tosspot wrote: On 18/07/13 11:35, JNugent wrote: On 18/07/2013 02:03, Paul Cummins wrote: In article , (JNugent) wrote: Police Car...? OK... Just for the kids, I'll throw in the word "unlawfully". I stand by my answer. So you insist that I will - or anyone - see a police car being driven along the footway more frequently than we will see a bicycle being ridden along it, do you? Just to clarify, I meant Planet Earth, not your obviously-other world. Well, if it's any help. I saw 4 being driven on a pavement tonight. I have driven my car on the footway several times today. Cars being illegally driven onto, and parked, on the footway by criminals is a chronic problem in parts of London. http://goo.gl/maps/HKNEy Clare, who works in Central London says that cyclists on the footway is a chronic problem also. However, I have scoured Google Streetview on the area around Kingsway, where Clare works, but have not found one example to show you. The minor detail of the time of day that streetview pictures are taken would seriously alter the number and location of all types of vehicles. to get a more accurate idea try looking at live camera feeds at the sort of time that Clare notices the problem. |
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