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Which Ortlieb Pannier
I'm buying new panniers. To be used for touring both hostel and
camping. My current setup when hostel touring is two rear panniers plus a small waistpack for wallet and camera. I'm thinking about the Ortlieb Back Roller Classic. My only reservation is that currently when touring I keep my map in a side pocket of a pannier. As the Back Rollers don't have pockets it might involve a bit of a fiddle undoing the roll closure any time I wanted to check the map. So would the Bick Packer Classic with a normal lid fastening be better. Or has anyone got any experience with the DHB waterproof panniers currently on Wiggle for 57 quid. Iain |
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I'm buying new panniers. To be used for touring both hostel and camping. My current setup when hostel touring is two rear panniers plus a small waistpack for wallet and camera. I'm thinking about the Ortlieb Back Roller Classic. My only reservation is that currently when touring I keep my map in a side pocket of a pannier. As the Back Rollers don't have pockets it might involve a bit of a fiddle undoing the roll closure any time I wanted to check the map. So would the Bick Packer Classic with a normal lid fastening be better. I've got the bike packer classics and they seem pretty good to me. I've not been out in a serious rainstorm as yet but they seemed to be less hassle to use than the roller ones. Plus there's straps across the top that you can lash things under too (such as a pair of non-cycling shoes which was my luxury on a trip through the Mendips and Somerset levels a while back). Chris -- Chris Eilbeck |
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On Tue, 28 Nov, Chris Eilbeck wrote:
" writes: I'm thinking about the Ortlieb Back Roller Classic. My only reservation is that currently when touring I keep my map in a side pocket of a pannier. As the Back Rollers don't have pockets it might involve a bit of a fiddle undoing the roll closure any time I wanted to check the map. So would the Bick Packer Classic with a normal lid fastening be better. I've got the bike packer classics and they seem pretty good to me. I've not been out in a serious rainstorm as yet but they seemed to be less hassle to use than the roller ones. Plus there's straps across the top that you can lash things under too (such as a pair of non-cycling shoes which was my luxury on a trip through the Mendips and Somerset levels a while back). I have a previous model which is closest to the bike packer plus, but mine have a mesh pocket on the outside without a zip, and additionally have a little roll-top pocket on the side. Mine have done year-round daily commute in all weathers for many years (about 10, I think). They are not quite good-as-new, but they have no holes and have never let water in, even when I've forded hub-deep floods. I've never actually submerged them, but they've seen some serious downpours. So, if you're concerned that the normal lid closure might not be as waterproof - unless you plan using them as buoyancy aids, I wouldn't worry. The lid is easy to work, the side pocket is handy for bits. I don't think I'd ever bother with a roll-top closure. regards, Ian SMith -- |\ /| no .sig |o o| |/ \| |
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I'm thinking about the Ortlieb Back Roller Classic. My only reservation is that currently when touring I keep my map in a side pocket of a pannier. As the Back Rollers don't have pockets it might involve a bit of a fiddle undoing the roll closure any time I wanted to check the map. So would the Bick Packer Classic with a normal lid fastening be better. Well, that depends... I use the rollers, and part of that reason is I did want them to double as canoe dry bags so clearly I want more waterproof than you need on a bike, but I find the roll top is actually just as easy to use as a traditional lid (my Altura Orkneys and previous Carradice Overlanders give e suitable comparisons) and they overload much more readily and gracefully. The rolltops have an extra closure strap across the top and it wouldn't be much trouble to tuck a map case under that. However, if you're touring and you've got a waist pack on for camera and wallet, why not put on a QR bar-bag which has a dedicated map window on the top? Easier to see the map, easier to get at your camera, and comes off with a click and is easily carried if you leave the bike. Something like http://www.ortlieb.de/_prod.php?lang=en&produkt=u4plus# since we're on Ortliebs, but Altura, Carradice etc. do similar things. My panniers are the lighter "Plus" flavour. They're still very well made and mine show no signs of wear after 5 years. Or has anyone got any experience with the DHB waterproof panniers currently on Wiggle for 57 quid. I haven't, and while I'm not saying they're not as good as Ortliebs (I can't, I haven't experience with them!), I've no hesitation in recommending Ortliebs as the best overall combination of design and implementation cluefullness I've yet come across. Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ |
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Peter Clinch wrote:
However, if you're touring and you've got a waist pack on for camera and wallet, why not put on a QR bar-bag which has a dedicated map window on the top? Easier to see the map, easier to get at your camera, and comes off with a click and is easily carried if you leave the bike. Something like http://www.ortlieb.de/_prod.php?lang=en&produkt=u4plus# since we're on Ortliebs, but Altura, Carradice etc. do similar things. Yes I think a bar bag is the way to go. I'm going to go for conventional closures rather than the rolltops. Comments seem to be that in normal use the waterproofing is fine on the Bike Packers. I have tried a rolltops (not Ortliebs) in my LBS but found them a bit fiddly. Anyway thanks for all opinions . Iain |
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I'm going to go for conventional closures rather than the rolltops. Comments seem to be that in normal use the waterproofing is fine on the Bike Packers. As long as they're not submerged or left open with the lids turned back, they'll be waterproof. Most panniers leak through seam stitching, but Ortliebs have welded seams so there are no holes for water to get through and no thread for water to wick along. Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ |
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Peter Clinch wrote: As long as they're not submerged or left open with the lids turned back, they'll be waterproof. Most panniers leak through seam stitching, but Ortliebs have welded seams so there are no holes for water to get through and no thread for water to wick along. Thanks for all replies. I've ordered the Bike Packers. My query regarding their waterproofing was more whether the lid design allowed a certain amount of water in from spray being driven under the lid. From all comments that's no problem. Iain |
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