Landis revelations : pieces of the puzzle falling into place...LA's 2009 TDF blood profile explained ?

"The end result of the technique, Ashenden explained, is that a
rider's red blood cell population stays constant during a stage race
such as the Tour de France, rather than dropping as would happen in a
normal person."

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/biol...news_headlines

Now match this to :

http://nyvelocity.com/content/featur...ues-suspicious

Keith wrote:
"The end result of the technique, Ashenden explained, is that a
rider's red blood cell population stays constant during a stage race
such as the Tour de France, rather than dropping as would happen in a
normal person."

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/biol...news_headlines

Now match this to :

http://nyvelocity.com/content/featur...ues-suspicious
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So that's how it's done. Lance is done, all of them are done. Wouldn't
it be wonderful to see a drug-free tdf? Not since the days of Eddy have
we seen real people competing with each on bikes. It's all been fake
since Eddy.

On 5/27/2010 7:29 AM, Keith wrote:
"The end result of the technique, Ashenden explained, is that a
rider's red blood cell population stays constant during a stage race
such as the Tour de France, rather than dropping as would happen in a
normal person."

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/biol...news_headlines

Now match this to :

http://nyvelocity.com/content/featur...ues-suspicious



Thanks for the links.

On May 27, 7:01*am, Cicero Venatio wrote:
Keith wrote:
"The end result of the technique, Ashenden explained, is that a
rider's red blood cell population stays constant during a stage race
such as the Tour de France, rather than dropping as would happen in a
normal person."

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/biol...ert-taking-lan...

Now match this to :

http://nyvelocity.com/content/featur...our-blood-valu...

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So that's how it's done. *Lance is done, all of them are done. *Wouldn't
it be wonderful to see a drug-free tdf? *Not since the days of Eddy have
we seen real people competing with each on bikes. *It's all been fake
since Eddy.

"Doping" has been used since the start. Eddy got popped more than
once; compared to the crap he (and all the others) took, EPO is orange
juice (to coin a phrase).
Get real.
--D-y

On May 27, 7:02*am, "B. Lafferty" wrote:
On 5/27/2010 7:29 AM, Keith wrote: "The end result of the technique, Ashenden explained, is that a
rider's red blood cell population stays constant during a stage race
such as the Tour de France, rather than dropping as would happen in a
normal person."

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/biol...ert-taking-lan...

Now match this to :

http://nyvelocity.com/content/featur...our-blood-valu...

Thanks for the links.

You and Keith, get a room.
--D-y

On Thu, 27 May 2010 08:02:22 -0400, "B. Lafferty"
wrote:

On 5/27/2010 7:29 AM, Keith wrote:
"The end result of the technique, Ashenden explained, is that a
rider's red blood cell population stays constant during a stage race
such as the Tour de France, rather than dropping as would happen in a
normal person."

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/biol...news_headlines

Now match this to :

http://nyvelocity.com/content/featur...ues-suspicious



Thanks for the links.

Sure, forgot to post this one which was a "rebuttal" by none other
than Saxo"s and Astana's "how to beat the passport" doc, i.e. Rasmus
Damsgaard :
http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/...levels-debated

On May 27, 4:29*am, Keith wrote:
"The end result of the technique, Ashenden explained, is that a
rider's red blood cell population stays constant during a stage race
such as the Tour de France, rather than dropping as would happen in a
normal person."

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/biol...ert-taking-lan...

Now match this to :

http://nyvelocity.com/content/featur...our-blood-valu...

Yeah, the passport is the ideal drug test. If it shows variations,
you're doping. If it's stable, you're doping.

It might be a good method for testing for witches, too.

Brad Anders

On 5/27/2010 9:18 AM, Brad Anders wrote:
On May 27, 4:29 am, wrote:
"The end result of the technique, Ashenden explained, is that a
rider's red blood cell population stays constant during a stage race
such as the Tour de France, rather than dropping as would happen in a
normal person."

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/biol...ert-taking-lan...

Now match this to :

http://nyvelocity.com/content/featur...our-blood-valu...

Yeah, the passport is the ideal drug test. If it shows variations,
you're doping. If it's stable, you're doping.

It might be a good method for testing for witches, too.

Brad Anders

It is circumstantial which is a weakness. But, it seems it would be
more of problem for the UCI than the riders. Also very expensive to
maintain. That seems to have been acknowledged by the UCI because it is
more likely to increase random, out of competition testing than to
actually bring doping charges based on the blood passport.

On May 27, 9:10*am, "B. Lafferty" wrote:
On 5/27/2010 9:18 AM, Brad Anders wrote:





On May 27, 4:29 am, *wrote:
"The end result of the technique, Ashenden explained, is that a
rider's red blood cell population stays constant during a stage race
such as the Tour de France, rather than dropping as would happen in a
normal person."

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/biol...ert-taking-lan....

Now match this to :

http://nyvelocity.com/content/featur...our-blood-valu....

Yeah, the passport is the ideal drug test. If it shows variations,
you're doping. If it's stable, you're doping.

It might be a good method for testing for witches, too.

Brad Anders

It is circumstantial which is a weakness. *But, it seems it would be
more of problem for the UCI than the riders. Also very expensive to
maintain. That seems to have been acknowledged by the UCI because it is
more likely to increase random, out of competition testing than to
actually bring doping charges based on the blood passport.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Guys - even I wouldn't call this a smoking gun h levels can vary
greatly within a day depending on hydration levels. All of the riders
take IV fluids to manipulate these levels prior to testing -
statistical noise IMHO

On May 27, 5:01*am, Cicero Venatio wrote:
Keith wrote:
"The end result of the technique, Ashenden explained, is that a
rider's red blood cell population stays constant during a stage race
such as the Tour de France, rather than dropping as would happen in a
normal person."

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/biol...ert-taking-lan...

Now match this to :

http://nyvelocity.com/content/featur...our-blood-valu...

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So that's how it's done. *Lance is done, all of them are done. *Wouldn't
it be wonderful to see a drug-free tdf? *Not since the days of Eddy have
we seen real people competing with each on bikes. *It's all been fake
since Eddy.

There will never be a future "drug-free TDF". I doubt there ever has
been one. Has there ever been a "fair TDF" among the top contenders?
IMO, that's what we've been seeing for years. The ones that have a
shot are all on a level playing field, as assured by what they can do
within the current methods of drug testing.

Brad Anders