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my ride today
On 5 nov, 01:31, Mark Cleary wrote:
I am basically a long distance runner who has moved to riding a bike about once a week to keep the pounding down. I have in the past and I wanted to post this for a bit of feedback for someone who is into biking as this group is most of the time. I have rode bike a Mercier I bought in July and I love it have about 300 miles on it. I did my longest ride today it was beautiful day but a little winding from the west. I went out 14 miles into a side/headwind it about 55 minutes then I turned around and what a blast. I went for the next 13 miles at a pace around 21 mph on my garmin gps. I find it similar to the feeling I had when I first ran for over 1 hours straight with no stops. This of course was 25 years ago but now on the bike I enjoy the same feeling. I guess my question relates to what other do. I rode 27 miles today in 1 hour and 35 minutes and I could basically ride much longer no problems with being tired or wipe out but going faster with the wind was scary. I find at 25 mph and any sudden gust of wind are a bit of a balance problem and I get thinking this is fast to me. I also found my neck was a bit sore from looking around and using my review mirror at times. I was only on county roads but I hate cars an trucks it is best to be *in deserted rodes for speed. I find at 47 my sense of danger in speed is conservative and my balance is not what it was 20 years ago. I guess I could have easily road 50 miles it some sense although my butt would be sore. I should mention I did run 9 miles in the morning before this bike ride or it would have been faster and better. I feel like a lone eagle out on the rode and would appreciate any thoughts on what someone does for a work out. I normally ride my bike about 20 miles at a shot once a week but I am finding I really would need to go for a ride of about 50 miles to see the limits are what my body responds to. I started a thread some month ago asking about a Mercier bike and I have to say it has been great no problems, no flats, I did lub the chain today for the first time and I noticed a difference. -- Mark Cleary plays Hollenbeck Jazz Guitars Handmadehttp://hollenbeckguitar.com/ For a Hollenbeck Jazz guitar player you doing just fine Mark. You are 47 years old. What do you have to prove to whom? Ride a lot, throw away your speedo meter and enjoy. Lou |
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On Nov 6, 6:16*am, wrote:
On 5 nov, 01:31, Mark Cleary wrote: I am basically a long distance runner who has moved to riding a bike about once a week to keep the pounding down. I have in the past and I wanted to post this for a bit of feedback for someone who is into biking as this group is most of the time. I have rode bike a Mercier I bought in July and I love it have about 300 miles on it. I did my longest ride today it was beautiful day but a little winding from the west. I went out 14 miles into a side/headwind it about 55 minutes then I turned around and what a blast. I went for the next 13 miles at a pace around 21 mph on my garmin gps. I find it similar to the feeling I had when I first ran for over 1 hours straight with no stops. This of course was 25 years ago but now on the bike I enjoy the same feeling. I guess my question relates to what other do. I rode 27 miles today in 1 hour and 35 minutes and I could basically ride much longer no problems with being tired or wipe out but going faster with the wind was scary. I find at 25 mph and any sudden gust of wind are a bit of a balance problem and I get thinking this is fast to me. I also found my neck was a bit sore from looking around and using my review mirror at times. I was only on county roads but I hate cars an trucks it is best to be *in deserted rodes for speed. I find at 47 my sense of danger in speed is conservative and my balance is not what it was 20 years ago. I guess I could have easily road 50 miles it some sense although my butt would be sore. I should mention I did run 9 miles in the morning before this bike ride or it would have been faster and better. I feel like a lone eagle out on the rode and would appreciate any thoughts on what someone does for a work out. I normally ride my bike about 20 miles at a shot once a week but I am finding I really would need to go for a ride of about 50 miles to see the limits are what my body responds to. I started a thread some month ago asking about a Mercier bike and I have to say it has been great no problems, no flats, I did lub the chain today for the first time and I noticed a difference. -- Mark Cleary plays Hollenbeck Jazz Guitars Handmadehttp://hollenbeckguitar.com/ For a Hollenbeck Jazz guitar player you doing just fine Mark. You are 47 years old. What do you have to prove to whom? Ride a lot, throw away your speedo meter and enjoy. Lou- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - He's young! If he wants to improve, the way to do that is to ride with experienced riders. Find a local cycling club or shop that sponsors rides for riders of different fitness levels and then work your way up -- if you want. At a minimum, you will learn how to ride your bike in a straight line, gear selection, magical equipment selection (mostly myth and lore) and all those things that others will share with you whether you want it or not. -- Jay Beattie. |
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Mark Cleary wrote:
I am basically a long distance runner who has moved to riding a bike about once a week to keep the pounding down. I have in the past and I wanted to post this for a bit of feedback for someone who is into biking as this group is most of the time. I have rode bike a Mercier I bought in July and I love it have about 300 miles on it. I did my longest ride today it was beautiful day but a little winding from the west. I went out 14 miles into a side/headwind it about 55 minutes then I turned around and what a blast. I went for the next 13 miles at a pace around 21 mph on my Garmin GPS. Forget about the MPH and ride whatever pace is comfortable, even if you push hard enough to be out of breath now and then. Sure, when I was "young and beautiful", I also rode 25 mile TT's at close to one hour, so what, I don't do that anymore but I ride the same long scenic rides I did with my racing pals back then and enjoy them. I find it similar to the feeling I had when I first ran for over 1 hour straight with no stops. This of course was 25 years ago but now on the bike I enjoy the same feeling. I guess my question relates to what other do. I rode 27 miles today in 1 hour and 35 minutes and I could basically ride much longer no problems with being tired or wipe out but going faster with the wind was scary. I find at 25 mph and any sudden gust of wind are a bit of a balance problem and I get thinking this is fast to me. I also found my neck was a bit sore from looking around and using my review mirror at times. I was only on county roads but I hate cars an trucks it is best to be in deserted rodes for speed. It takes a while to become a bikie physique and to assume just because you can run well, you ought to ride likewise, is not reasonable in my perspective. Just for contrast, I can't run worth a darn and don't care. I enjoy bicycling now for the same reasons I did years ago, and it doesn't look like running to me. I find at 47 my sense of danger in speed is conservative and my balance is not what it was 20 years ago. I guess I could have easily road 50 miles it some sense although my butt would be sore. I should mention I did run 9 miles in the morning before this bike ride or it would have been faster and better. I feel like a lone eagle out on the rode and would appreciate any thoughts on what someone does for a work out. I normally ride my bike about 20 miles at a shot once a week but I am finding I really would need to go for a ride of about 50 miles to see the limits are what my body responds to. That is a feature that I have observed in young and old. If you are not a natural immortal speed demon in early youth, it probably won't happen later. I think that explains why some car drivers have unexpected disasters. Not everyone is a natural Stirling Moss, nor can they become one. Don't press too hard or you may experience what you already seem to fear. I started a thread some month ago asking about a Mercier bike and I have to say it has been great no problems, no flats, I did lube the chain today for the first time and I noticed a difference. There's nothing unique about Mercier bikes, so you should not expect anything different that other bicycles of that era offer. Jobst Brandt |
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On 7 nov, 00:26, Mark Cleary wrote:
wrote: For a Hollenbeck Jazz guitar player you doing just fine Mark. You are 47 years old. What do you have to prove to whom? Ride a lot, throw away your speedo meter and enjoy. Lou- Runners alway want to know or at least be aware of the pace and this spills over in the bike world. Just to ride around on a bike spinning is fine but I still like to push things at times and this requires more effort. Mark Cleary plays Hollenbeck Jazz Guitars Handmadehttp://hollenbeckguitar.com/ I'm not talking about spinning or not pushing things from time to time. At my age and I'm just 4 years older than you, all that racing seems so pointless and take away a lot off fun for many people who do so at that age. Mind you I often ride faster then when I was younger and certainly ride more, but if things don't go well for a while I don't get nervous anymore and take it as it comes. That is much more enjoyable. Like someone here said once ' Riding time trials is the dumbest way to enjoy cycling' . Lou |
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On Nov 7, 2:40*am, wrote:
I'm not talking about spinning or not pushing things from time to time. At my age and I'm just 4 years older than you, all that racing seems so pointless and take away a lot off fun for many people who do so at that age. Mind you I often ride faster then when I was younger and certainly ride more, but if things don't go well for a while I don't get nervous anymore and take it as it comes. That is much more enjoyable. Like someone here said once *' Riding time trials is the dumbest way to enjoy cycling' . Taking it as it comes is good, but I can see value in pushing oneself. Time trials included. I'm in my 60s now. I certainly don't ride as fast as I used to. And it's more easy than ever for me to see the value of just puttering along, stopping frequently for pretty views and such. But I think I'm still reaping the benefits from years of harder riding. I'm healthier and slimmer than almost all my same-age riding buddies, and I climb better than all of them. I think this is because for decades, I pushed myself. I pushed myself on recreational rides, and on the regular rides home from work. That included the climb out of the valley. The ride home was (almost) a time trial. Yeah, it hurt, and I never looked forward to that big hill; but doing it consistently got me into darn good biking shape. The other thing I did involved gearing. I don't have to go far to find 10+% grades, but even though my bikes all have triples, I avoided the small chainring on regular rides. I grunted and pushed up every hill even if it required alternately sitting and standing, even if everybody else shifted to their lowest gear. I think this built my quads. The payoff, for me, was the ability to ride greater distances and see more countryside. And when I was touring, shifting into that granny gear allowed me to climb anything the terrain threw at me. My legs were up to it. And not only was I able to sail off on multi-day camping tours without a lot of worry, I remember a multi-hundred mile tour to visit my daughter at college, that I was able to finish a full day ahead of schedule. That meant more time with the kid. In general, getting into better shape is work, and it sometimes hurts. But it allows you to enjoy things that most Americans never experience. My biking shape allows me to enjoy mountain hikes, kayaking and other things at the drop of a hat. And of course, it allows me more enjoyment of biking. - Frank Krygowski |
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In my 30 years of running and 12 marathons I know how far I have run. It
is not all that important but simply wearing a watch I can figure my distance in a 7-10 mile run and not be off more than 100 yards. I do like to just go out an and run but I still keep a log and write distance, time and a few notes. My conditioning is fine but I don't run as fast by far as I did 16 years ago. I still have plenty of distance ability but I need more rest in between and I recover slower. I still like to go out once in a while an really push a run for 6-10 miles and I think that mentality is when I bike. May times running we hold back to recover or run the last 1/2 faster than the first. As runner who never had great speed I won't be riding a bike at any great speed but I find the sports very similar with regard to training if you do it seriously. This does no mean marathon champs will be winning the tour de france but I guess they could do well on a bike just like great cyclist can usually run fine. It has nothing do with racing as such I have not run a race in 3 or 4 years but still run seriously I don't call it training at all I just run. Mark Cleary plays Hollenbeck Jazz Guitars Handmade http://hollenbeckguitar.com/ Still Just Me wrote: On 07 Nov 2008 03:04:35 GMT, wrote: Forget about the MPH and ride whatever pace is comfortable, even if you push hard enough to be out of breath now and then. Sure, when I was "young and beautiful", I also rode 25 mile TT's at close to one hour, so what, I don't do that anymore but I ride the same long scenic rides I did with my racing pals back then and enjoy them. My philosophy too. If I'm out for exercise, I just push as hard as I can for the whole ride and that's that. I have a rough idea how far I am go but I don't really care all that much. The amount of time I spend riding is more important. I do the same when I run - rough idea of how far I go, but no exact measure and I don't check to see when I leave or return. Still, I continually improve my condition. |
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