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Death on ride today
There was a death on our BikeSA ride in the hills today - I was the first to find the poor chap feeling unwell halfway up a small hill, complaining of chest pain and nausea, and a few minutes later he was dead. Despite our CPR and prompt ambulance attendance, he never regained a pulse or consciousness after collapsing. I won't identify him, but if you knew him, please accept my condolences, and assurances that we did everything correctly as quickly as possible. I was pretty calm while giving CPR, but when it became clear that the ambos weren't going to save him I went into mild shock - I started shaking, and got butterflies in the stomach. I can still feel it now, and would doubtless feel a lot worse if I hadn't been able to do the right thing on the spot. We certainly didn't feel like continuing with that leg of the ride. He was in his late 40s, and pretty fit, but had a blood clot some weeks ago, I was told, and his arteries were probably in bad shape. The morals of the story a - If you haven't done a first aid course lately, do one. You can't imagine how bad you'd feel if someone died because you didn't know what to do. - If you're at high medical risk, think about the effect your death would have on your loved ones before you go on a strenuous ride, even with others. I guess a quick death while riding isn't a bad way to go, but there's usually more at stake. -- bpo gallery at http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/mvw1/bpo |
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Michael, you were fortunate that you at least knew CPR - at least you felt
that you could try to help. I agree with you that CPR should be mandatory in our schools - forget sex ed!!!! they all know that - teach them CPR instead. (sorry warped SOH) A freind of ours that we have done many physical things with (63yr old fit as a fiddle) just up and had a heart attack - no warning at all. He was lucky in that there was only one blockage, very quickly dealt with in hospital. Up to that point we would never have thought that this could have happened to him - he is now back "out there" 2 months later. Good luck to him - I would hate to see him collapse, but I would hate more to see him home brooding over life as it was for him "pre heart attack". Maybe this man who died had that same thought - just wanted to continue life. Kathy. |
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My condolences to his family and friends. I hope it doesn't play on your
mind too much, sounds like you did as much as you could. First Aid courses are essential, I'm about to do my third and will progress further. I f every kid can do it through primary/high school and keep one of those EAR/CPR cards in their wallets hopefully there will almost always be a least one person who will step forward when needed. Daniel. "Michael Warner" wrote in message . .. There was a death on our BikeSA ride in the hills today - I was the first to find the poor chap feeling unwell halfway up a small hill, complaining of chest pain and nausea, and a few minutes later he was dead. Despite our CPR and prompt ambulance attendance, he never regained a pulse or consciousness after collapsing. I won't identify him, but if you knew him, please accept my condolences, and assurances that we did everything correctly as quickly as possible. I was pretty calm while giving CPR, but when it became clear that the ambos weren't going to save him I went into mild shock - I started shaking, and got butterflies in the stomach. I can still feel it now, and would doubtless feel a lot worse if I hadn't been able to do the right thing on the spot. We certainly didn't feel like continuing with that leg of the ride. He was in his late 40s, and pretty fit, but had a blood clot some weeks ago, I was told, and his arteries were probably in bad shape. The morals of the story a - If you haven't done a first aid course lately, do one. You can't imagine how bad you'd feel if someone died because you didn't know what to do. - If you're at high medical risk, think about the effect your death would have on your loved ones before you go on a strenuous ride, even with others. I guess a quick death while riding isn't a bad way to go, but there's usually more at stake. -- bpo gallery at http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/mvw1/bpo |
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"atacca" wrote in :
First Aid courses are essential, I'm about to do my third and will progress further. I've done a fair few over the years, mainly as part of my kayaking instructor qualifications back in the UK. My wife and I and a few friends are about to do another one. It is really frightening just how much you can forget in the course of just a few years. The other night we were discussing the ratio of breaths to compressions for CPR and neither of us could say with any certainty that we were right (although the official "right" ratio does seem to change every so often). Graeme |
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Michael Warner wrote:
....snip.... - If you're at high medical risk, think about the effect your death would have on your loved ones before you go on a strenuous ride, even with others. I guess a quick death while riding isn't a bad way to go, but there's usually more at stake. I disagree with you comments. Particularly in light of the event. Life is for living and none of us can be absolutely sure when we are going to go. That particular person could have sat around for the rest of their life waiting for that clot to move. |
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The other night we were
discussing the ratio of breaths to compressions for CPR and neither of us could say with any certainty that we were right (although the official "right" ratio does seem to change every so often). Graeme So true. I wonder what the lee way is for the ratios, and if instructors give trainees some idea of the "right" ratio and the give/take accepted. I always carry the card around for the ratios, plus a disposable face mask on my key chain, so I can whip both out and feel fairly secure (hopefully). |
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"Graeme" wrote in message 4.51... "atacca" wrote in : First Aid courses are essential, I'm about to do my third and will progress further. I've done a fair few over the years, mainly as part of my kayaking instructor qualifications back in the UK. My wife and I and a few friends are about to do another one. It is really frightening just how much you can forget in the course of just a few years. The other night we were discussing the ratio of breaths to compressions for CPR and neither of us could say with any certainty that we were right (although the official "right" ratio does seem to change every so often). Graeme What sort of kayaking do you do Graeme? We do CPR at work once a year. It's compulsory for us. Everyone at the power station has to do it. Marty |
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"atacca" wrote in :
So true. I wonder what the lee way is for the ratios, and if instructors give trainees some idea of the "right" ratio and the give/take accepted. I always carry the card around for the ratios, plus a disposable face mask on my key chain, so I can whip both out and feel fairly secure (hopefully). I've got a couple of paramedic friends and they have said to me that if you can't remember the ratio, don't let it stop you giving CPR as it's better than sitting back doing nothing. As long as you let the ambos know what you've been doing when they turn up then they can carry on as needed. They (and many others) have also said that the chances of reviving someone with CPR alone are *very* low and that it is mainly used to keep the person ticking over until the ambos get there with the useful stuff (drugs, defibrillator etc.) Graeme |
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"Marty Wallace" wrote in news:410e4976$0$27222
: What sort of kayaking do you do Graeme? More "did" than "do" unfortunately. It's one of the things that has got increasingly sidelined over the years. It was mainly easy white water (grades 2/3/4) and a bit of canoe polo. I brought my canoe and kayaks over with me from Scotland when we came over last year, but they've seen little use. I keep meaning to go along to one of the Perth canoe polo sessions that are on, but haven't got round to it yet. Graeme |
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"Graeme" wrote in message 4.51... "Marty Wallace" wrote in news:410e4976$0$27222 : What sort of kayaking do you do Graeme? More "did" than "do" unfortunately. It's one of the things that has got increasingly sidelined over the years. It was mainly easy white water (grades 2/3/4) and a bit of canoe polo. I brought my canoe and kayaks over with me from Scotland when we came over last year, but they've seen little use. I keep meaning to go along to one of the Perth canoe polo sessions that are on, but haven't got round to it yet. Graeme I'm doing the Avon this weekend as part of a team. I've done the last three years as a solo and I was going to have a break this year but some friends needed an extra body to make up a team of four. The water level looks a bit low but I'm doing the easy stages. Marty |
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