was the men's TT on TV?

On 19 Aug 2004 10:49:21 -0700, otto wrote:
E.
-Old Europe

come on jonge, NL isn't part of 'old europe', you're part of the
'coalition of the willing', or well paid, or whatever...

I think you're talking about politics? I meant in the context of bike
racing of course! How dare you talk politics on a cycling newsgroup.

wrote:

(Davide Tosi) writes:

Ewoud Dronkert wrote:

You don't say where you live, so how can we answer that? Over here it
was, in full.

Stupid RAI tv showed only bit parts of it in between a boring female
waterpolo match in which one of the two teams those ugly fat sicilian pigs
that name themselves "team Italia" despite being the Catania team in
disguise.
Thank God Eurosport exists.


Viva Burlusconi

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3034600.stm

RAI is the publicly owned tv, not a part of Berlusconi's network.
BTW, most of what is written in that BBC piece is bull****, the same old
crap that liberals, socialists etc.. keep on shouting, thinking that if you
shout a lie 1000 times always louder, people will start thinking that's the
truth.

keydates wrote in message ...
Well it was just on. If you thought the men's road race coverage was
bad, this was terrible. -Maybe- 5 minutes spent on the men's TT, with
focus only on the people who won medals.


The problem is that watching a TT on TV is like watching paint dry.
Guys riding bikes, alone, doesn't make for very compelling video.
Maybe if someone crashed....but otherwise not interesting. You might
be interested in the drama of how the overall competition shapes up,
but that can be summarized in a minute by showing the winners on the
podium. Which is what NBC did.

I suppose, but it could have shown how the other pre-race favorites did.
Show how Ullrich didn't even place, etc.


--
keydates

(Davide Tosi) writes:

wrote:

(Davide Tosi) writes:

Ewoud Dronkert wrote:

You don't say where you live, so how can we answer that? Over here it
was, in full.

Stupid RAI tv showed only bit parts of it in between a boring female
waterpolo match in which one of the two teams those ugly fat sicilian pigs
that name themselves "team Italia" despite being the Catania team in
disguise.
Thank God Eurosport exists.


Viva Burlusconi

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3034600.stm

RAI is the publicly owned tv, not a part of Berlusconi's network.

As in Owned by the People? Or controlled by the felon, Burlusconi?


BTW, most of what is written in that BBC piece is bull****, the same old
crap that liberals, socialists etc.. keep on shouting, thinking that if you
shout a lie 1000 times always louder, people will start thinking that's the
truth.


Horse****

--
le Vent a Dos, Davey Crockett
Six Day Site: http://members.rogers.com/sixday/sixday.html

"Ewoud Dronkert" wrote in message
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On 19 Aug 2004 10:49:21 -0700, otto wrote:
E.
-Old Europe

come on jonge, NL isn't part of 'old europe', you're part of the
'coalition of the willing', or well paid, or whatever...

I think you're talking about politics? I meant in the context of bike
racing of course! How dare you talk politics on a cycling newsgroup.

second that! i'm in here to avoid fascists of all stripes! i saw the TT here
but cant remember if it was msnbc or cbc. thought it was pretty decent, at
least as good as any other events. was an awesome result too, it's always
inspiring to see TH race.

in article , keydates at
wrote on 8/19/04 7:58 AM:

All it showed were Hamilton vs. Ekimov's split and finishing times and
Julich setting off (maybe a little more on Julich). I suppose those
are the important parts, but it still sucked.

Of course they aren't the important parts! If NBC wanted to capitalize on
the popularity of the Tour de France using only the 5-10 minutes they had
available, and I'm sure someone in the ranks did, they should have done a
lot better.

First and foremost, the viewer should never have been left wondering WTF was
going on. A simple acknowledgement of their time constraints, and a brief
explanation of the lay of the coverage while explaining that it was an
all-day event, would have sufficed. A mention of the part the time-trial
plays in cycling would also be great.

They should have shown Jan Ullrich, Alexandre Vinokourov, Santiago Botero,
Serguei Honchar, Igor Gonzalez de Galdeano, Michael Rogers, Michael Rich,
and a few other key players, briefly placing them in proper context for the
newbies by listing a result or two.

If they had done that, they could have fit their coverage into a perfect 10
minutes, the public would be satisfied and we would be salivating for more
NBC coverage. Instead we got the worst hatchet job of the entire Olympics,
though the event is still young. I'm going to watch the MSNBC coverage now,
I hope it's better...

-Sonarrat.

Unfortunately, bike racing is still a minor interest, and it's lucky
that it got the crappy coverage that it did on primetime regular
television. Sports like fencing, archery, etc. don't get any coverage,
partly because of it's relative unpopularity in America, and partly
because of the lack of American competitors in it.


--
keydates

In article , Sonarrat
wrote:

in article , keydates at
wrote on 8/19/04 7:58 AM:

All it showed were Hamilton vs. Ekimov's split and finishing times and
Julich setting off (maybe a little more on Julich). I suppose those
are the important parts, but it still sucked.

Of course they aren't the important parts! If NBC wanted to capitalize on
the popularity of the Tour de France using only the 5-10 minutes they had
available, and I'm sure someone in the ranks did, they should have done a
lot better.

First and foremost, the viewer should never have been left wondering WTF was
going on. A simple acknowledgement of their time constraints, and a brief
explanation of the lay of the coverage while explaining that it was an
all-day event, would have sufficed. A mention of the part the time-trial
plays in cycling would also be great.

They should have shown Jan Ullrich, Alexandre Vinokourov, Santiago Botero,
Serguei Honchar, Igor Gonzalez de Galdeano, Michael Rogers, Michael Rich,
and a few other key players, briefly placing them in proper context for the
newbies by listing a result or two.

If they had done that, they could have fit their coverage into a perfect 10
minutes, the public would be satisfied and we would be salivating for more
NBC coverage. Instead we got the worst hatchet job of the entire Olympics,
though the event is still young. I'm going to watch the MSNBC coverage now,
I hope it's better...

MSNBC at Midnight provided ample coverage of the Men's TT, and followed
with the medal ceremony, National Anthem, and later, an in-studio
interview with Tyler.

Next week you can expect to see far more coverage of the track cycling
on Bravo than you will on NBC during prime time (reserved primarily for
track and field next week).

-WG

in article , MortDubois at
wrote on 8/19/04 2:53 PM:

keydates wrote in message
...
Well it was just on. If you thought the men's road race coverage was
bad, this was terrible. -Maybe- 5 minutes spent on the men's TT, with
focus only on the people who won medals.


The problem is that watching a TT on TV is like watching paint dry.
Guys riding bikes, alone, doesn't make for very compelling video.
Maybe if someone crashed....but otherwise not interesting.

Someone did crash, but I can't spell his name. Andrei Kashaker (or
something like that... )

You might
be interested in the drama of how the overall competition shapes up,
but that can be summarized in a minute by showing the winners on the
podium. Which is what NBC did.