eBay caution!

Two auctions on eBay caught my eye last night, and I wanted to share
the replies I received from the sellers when I questioned why the size
of bike wasn't shown, and why one seller included a number of photos
of the bike, yet described it as being "still in the box as received
from Trek, assembly required."

The first, advertised as a brand new, 2004 Trek 5200:

"I have all frame sizes as I own a shop !All the bikes I am selling
are brand new, with original parts, all are 2004 models! I am asking
$1300 plus $35 for UPS insured delivery !I accept payment to my bank
account only as I have the bikes on my shop inventory ! If this is not
fine with you please don't reply back asking me to change my mind !"


And, this one, advertising a Trek 5900 Superlight, which could have
been written by the guys from Nigeria that keep asking me if I want
several million dollars from a deposed oil minister:

"Hello,
************Tell me where are you from and tell me your shipping
address and
phone number if you really are interested to buy one bike Road Cycle
Trek
5200 2004, because I want to sell it very fast to pay a bill to my
supplier
and I don't have to much time.
************If so my best price that I can make for a you is $1600,
shipping
included.
************I'm handling the liquidation of a big store stock and in
this
moment all frame size is ready to be ship:48, 50, 52, 54, 56, 58, 60,
63cm.
The bike is brand new in factory box with all the warranty papers for
1
year.
************It is ready to be shipped in the same day that my buyer
wants to
close the deal I meen imediately when I have the payment confirmation.
************Let me know If you like the price in order to go ahead
with the
deal, If you are ok with my price and we will decide to move forward
with
our deal you must know that we will close our deal trough eBay. Fell
free to
ask me any other question.
Thanks for watching my auction
****************With all due respect,
****************************** Woodhouse Tom Andrew."

I guess the really sad thing is that people appeared to actually be
bidding on these...

The second ad below is identical to one I replied to awhile back - when I
told him I wanted to do it COD I never heard from him again....


"Mike" wrote in message
om...
Two auctions on eBay caught my eye last night, and I wanted to share
the replies I received from the sellers when I questioned why the size
of bike wasn't shown, and why one seller included a number of photos
of the bike, yet described it as being "still in the box as received
from Trek, assembly required."

The first, advertised as a brand new, 2004 Trek 5200:

"I have all frame sizes as I own a shop !All the bikes I am selling
are brand new, with original parts, all are 2004 models! I am asking
$1300 plus $35 for UPS insured delivery !I accept payment to my bank
account only as I have the bikes on my shop inventory ! If this is not
fine with you please don't reply back asking me to change my mind !"


And, this one, advertising a Trek 5900 Superlight, which could have
been written by the guys from Nigeria that keep asking me if I want
several million dollars from a deposed oil minister:

"Hello,
Tell me where are you from and tell me your shipping
address and
phone number if you really are interested to buy one bike Road Cycle
Trek
5200 2004, because I want to sell it very fast to pay a bill to my
supplier
and I don't have to much time.
If so my best price that I can make for a you is $1600,
shipping
included.
I'm handling the liquidation of a big store stock and in
this
moment all frame size is ready to be ship:48, 50, 52, 54, 56, 58, 60,
63cm.
The bike is brand new in factory box with all the warranty papers for
1
year.
It is ready to be shipped in the same day that my buyer
wants to
close the deal I meen imediately when I have the payment confirmation.
Let me know If you like the price in order to go ahead
with the
deal, If you are ok with my price and we will decide to move forward
with
our deal you must know that we will close our deal trough eBay. Fell
free to
ask me any other question.
Thanks for watching my auction
With all due respect,
Woodhouse Tom Andrew."

I guess the really sad thing is that people appeared to actually be
bidding on these...

Be careful, there have been a few bikes for "sale" where the poste
stole the ebay ID of a respected seller, then stole pictures from othe
cycling forums (weight weenies, for example) along with the description
of the components and tried to "sell" the bike they didn't have.

I emailed the sellers and had some interesting responses. I note
where they lived, posing as a traveling saleman and wanted to see th
bike in person...Not once did I get a reply after making such an offer
Not even a phone number and the ads were soon pulled

--
Weisse Luft

"Mike" wrote in message
om...
Two auctions on eBay caught my eye last night, and I wanted to share
the replies I received from the sellers when I questioned why the size
of bike wasn't shown, and why one seller included a number of photos
of the bike, yet described it as being "still in the box as received
from Trek, assembly required."

I guess the really sad thing is that people appeared to actually be
bidding on these...

Aw, come on.... everyone knows eBay is the safest marketplace on the
internet - eBay even says so!

Stuart Winsor
Ground Zero Cycles

Ask for a picture of the actual bike. They will either not reply or
send a pic of a total piece of crap.

Also Trek doesn't make a 48cm OCLV but the guy below has one....



On 19 Aug 2004 12:57:12 -0700, (Mike) wrote:

Two auctions on eBay caught my eye last night, and I wanted to share
the replies I received from the sellers when I questioned why the size
of bike wasn't shown, and why one seller included a number of photos
of the bike, yet described it as being "still in the box as received
from Trek, assembly required."

The first, advertised as a brand new, 2004 Trek 5200:

"I have all frame sizes as I own a shop !All the bikes I am selling
are brand new, with original parts, all are 2004 models! I am asking
$1300 plus $35 for UPS insured delivery !I accept payment to my bank
account only as I have the bikes on my shop inventory ! If this is not
fine with you please don't reply back asking me to change my mind !"


And, this one, advertising a Trek 5900 Superlight, which could have
been written by the guys from Nigeria that keep asking me if I want
several million dollars from a deposed oil minister:

"Hello,
????????????Tell me where are you from and tell me your shipping
address and
phone number if you really are interested to buy one bike Road Cycle
Trek
5200 2004, because I want to sell it very fast to pay a bill to my
supplier
and I don't have to much time.
????????????If so my best price that I can make for a you is $1600,
shipping
included.
????????????I'm handling the liquidation of a big store stock and in
this
moment all frame size is ready to be ship:48, 50, 52, 54, 56, 58, 60,
63cm.
The bike is brand new in factory box with all the warranty papers for
1
year.
????????????It is ready to be shipped in the same day that my buyer
wants to
close the deal I meen imediately when I have the payment confirmation.
????????????Let me know If you like the price in order to go ahead
with the
deal, If you are ok with my price and we will decide to move forward
with
our deal you must know that we will close our deal trough eBay. Fell
free to
ask me any other question.
Thanks for watching my auction
????????????????With all due respect,
?????????????????????????????? Woodhouse Tom Andrew."

I guess the really sad thing is that people appeared to actually be
bidding on these...

Damn... I bid $8000.00 for that bike and eBay ended the auction before I
could get ripped off!!!!

Ebay bike buying tips: www.little500.com/ebay/tips.html

"Mike" wrote in message
om...
Two auctions on eBay caught my eye last night, and I wanted to share
the replies I received from the sellers when I questioned why the size
of bike wasn't shown, and why one seller included a number of photos
of the bike, yet described it as being "still in the box as received
from Trek, assembly required."

The first, advertised as a brand new, 2004 Trek 5200:

"I have all frame sizes as I own a shop !All the bikes I am selling
are brand new, with original parts, all are 2004 models! I am asking
$1300 plus $35 for UPS insured delivery !I accept payment to my bank
account only as I have the bikes on my shop inventory ! If this is not
fine with you please don't reply back asking me to change my mind !"


And, this one, advertising a Trek 5900 Superlight, which could have
been written by the guys from Nigeria that keep asking me if I want
several million dollars from a deposed oil minister:

"Hello,
Tell me where are you from and tell me your shipping
address and
phone number if you really are interested to buy one bike Road Cycle
Trek
5200 2004, because I want to sell it very fast to pay a bill to my
supplier
and I don't have to much time.
If so my best price that I can make for a you is $1600,
shipping
included.
I'm handling the liquidation of a big store stock and in
this
moment all frame size is ready to be ship:48, 50, 52, 54, 56, 58, 60,
63cm.
The bike is brand new in factory box with all the warranty papers for
1
year.
It is ready to be shipped in the same day that my buyer
wants to
close the deal I meen imediately when I have the payment confirmation.
Let me know If you like the price in order to go ahead
with the
deal, If you are ok with my price and we will decide to move forward
with
our deal you must know that we will close our deal trough eBay. Fell
free to
ask me any other question.
Thanks for watching my auction
With all due respect,
Woodhouse Tom Andrew."

I guess the really sad thing is that people appeared to actually be
bidding on these...

In article ,
says...

I guess the really sad thing is that people appeared to actually be
bidding on these...

You can always ask their location. Then mention that you, or a friend,
is going to be in the neighborhood and want to pick up the bike in person.
I'm sure the emails will suddenly stop.
--------------
Alex

"Alex Rodriguez" wrote in message
...
| In article ,
| says...
|
| I guess the really sad thing is that people appeared to actually be
| bidding on these...
|
| You can always ask their location. Then mention that you, or a friend,
| is going to be in the neighborhood and want to pick up the bike in person.
| I'm sure the emails will suddenly stop.

I did just that on the cheap Trek 5200's. I asked where the seller was
located, since I'd prefer to pick up the bike in person. Here is the
response. Illinois is a pretty big state.
-----
Hello

I do have all frame sizes in stock including 56 cm ! I accept payment to my
bank account only ! I have nothing against you coming and picking up the
bike but still payment would have to be done through our banks! I am located
in Illinois!

Best Regards

John Rees wrote:
Wow. That sounds great. I'm interested in a 56cm. Do you still have any
56?

How do we work out the payment? Where are you located? If you are close,
we could

forget about the shipping as I could drive out there to pick up the bike.

Maybe I could even get in time for this weekend.

Let me know.

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 18:17:40 GMT, "John Rees" wrote:

"Alex Rodriguez" wrote in message
...
| In article ,
| says...
|
| I guess the really sad thing is that people appeared to actually be
| bidding on these...
|
| You can always ask their location. Then mention that you, or a friend,
| is going to be in the neighborhood and want to pick up the bike in person.
| I'm sure the emails will suddenly stop.

I did just that on the cheap Trek 5200's. I asked where the seller was
located, since I'd prefer to pick up the bike in person. Here is the
response. Illinois is a pretty big state.
-----
Hello

I do have all frame sizes in stock including 56 cm ! I accept payment to my
bank account only ! I have nothing against you coming and picking up the
bike but still payment would have to be done through our banks! I am located
in Illinois!

Best Regards

Depending on your mood and sense of humor, a quick "Wow, that's great, I'll be
driving through on my to vacation in Missouri. The bank thing's no problem.
Where ya at?"

Ron




John Rees wrote:
Wow. That sounds great. I'm interested in a 56cm. Do you still have any
56?

How do we work out the payment? Where are you located? If you are close,
we could

forget about the shipping as I could drive out there to pick up the bike.

Maybe I could even get in time for this weekend.

Let me know.

http://www.fraud-auctions.com/ should sum up a lot of questions for
many. It's a good link.