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"Stop for Pedestrians" alive in VA Senate, lost House by 1 vote
This is a close one folks! If we can get just one more Republican
vote, we can pass this legislation, requiring Virginia motorists to *stop* for pedestrians in crosswalks. HB1270 was defeated by *one vote* in the House this week, but the identical bill from the Senate, HB644, is still alive. For some reason we can't figure out, this was a party line vote, with a few freshman Republicans breaking ranks to vote "for." If we can get just one more Republican vote we can do this. On the VBF website I've posted [http://www.vabike.org/hb1270-defeated]the latest news from our lobbyist Bud Vye. He's listed the Republican delegates we should be contacting. If you live in one of these districts, please contact your delegate, and urge others to do the same -- especially if they can speak on behalf of a group, such as a bike club, runners' club, downtown merchants' association, PTA, senior citizens' group, church, boy/girl scouts, etc. Just *one* more vote! Don't forget yours either today -- Election Day! Matt O. |
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"Stop for Pedestrians" alive in VA Senate, lost House by 1 vote
On Feb 12, 4:05*pm, Matt O'Toole wrote:
This is a close one folks! *If we can get just one more Republican vote, we can pass this legislation, requiring Virginia motorists to *stop* for pedestrians in crosswalks. HB1270 was defeated by *one vote* in the House this week, but the identical bill from the Senate, HB644, is still alive. *For some reason we can't figure out, this was a party line vote, with a few freshman Republicans breaking ranks to vote "for." *If we can get just one more Republican vote we can do this. On the VBF website I've posted [http://www.vabike.org/hb1270-defeated]the latest news from our lobbyist Bud Vye. *He's listed the Republican delegates we should be contacting. *If you live in one of these districts, please contact your delegate, and urge others to do the same -- especially if they can speak on behalf of a group, such as a bike club, runners' club, downtown merchants' association, PTA, senior citizens' group, church, boy/girl scouts, etc. Just *one* more vote! Don't forget yours either today -- Election Day! Matt O. I'm dumbfounded that VA motorists currently do not have to stop for pedestrians in crosswalks. Bogus! Then again, I can see the other side. Some POS wants the insurance check and dives in front of your car on a 45MPH road at the last second, you can't avoid him, and you're screwed. Tough cookie. In a perfect world the motorist would have to stop, but there would be wording to get around the pedestrian version of the swoop & squat. |
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"Stop for Pedestrians" alive in VA Senate, lost House by 1 vote
"Matt O'Toole" wrote in message news This is a close one folks! If we can get just one more Republican vote, we can pass this legislation, requiring Virginia motorists to *stop* for pedestrians in crosswalks. (snip) Matt O. I am pretty sure this is the law in IL, but most Chicago drivers either do not know, or don't care. A Chicago driver who stops like this, has a good chance of being rear ended by the car behind him. J. |
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"Stop for Pedestrians" alive in VA Senate, lost House by 1 vote
On Feb 12, 6:19 pm, Harry Brogan wrote:
On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:43:33 -0600, "Jay" wrote: "Matt O'Toole" wrote in message news This is a close one folks! If we can get just one more Republican vote, we can pass this legislation, requiring Virginia motorists to *stop* for pedestrians in crosswalks. (snip) Matt O. I am pretty sure this is the law in IL, but most Chicago drivers either do not know, or don't care. A Chicago driver who stops like this, has a good chance of being rear ended by the car behind him. J. Well, it IS a law here in Nebraska. And people don't stop for pedestrians either IN or OUT of a crosswalk. The police have better things to do than to try and enforce yet another law on the books. Unfortunately, even if one gets a plate number the cops here tell you that "if they didn't see it there's nothing they can do". FWIW, I've gotten fairly militant about this. On several occasions, I've stopped walking in front of a car trying to barge through a crosswalk, to assert my ROW. On our college campus, I've gotten the plate number and called it in to campus police - who assure me they _will_ at least lecture the student. And on one memorable occasion, one poor car suffered minor damage when my briefcase accidentally swung into it as it blasted by after a brief discussion. Interestingly, the driver of the next car was cheering for me. Yes, there's some risk involved. But damn! Motorists rule too much of the world as it is! - Frank Krygowski |
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"Stop for Pedestrians" alive in VA Senate, lost House by 1 vote
Jay Bollyn wrote:
"Matt O'Toole" wrote in message news This is a close one folks! If we can get just one more Republican vote, we can pass this legislation, requiring Virginia motorists to *stop* for pedestrians in crosswalks. (snip) Matt O. I am pretty sure this is the law in IL, but most Chicago drivers either do not know, or don't care. A Chicago driver who stops like this, has a good chance of being rear ended by the car behind him. When a rode a Razor push scooter around campus, I used to have the problem of cagers not stopping for people waiting to cross at a marked crosswalk. I would hold my folder scooter out at arms length into traffic. Since the oncoming traffic prevented them from going around, they would stop to avoid the chance of cosmetic damage to their vehicle. I would walk out into the lane with several other people, and repeat the process to stop traffic from the other direction. By this time there would typically be 50+ pedestrians waiting to cross in each direction. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful |
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"Stop for Pedestrians" alive in VA Senate, lost House by 1 vote
max wrote:
In article , wrote: On Feb 12, 6:19 pm, Harry Brogan wrote: On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:43:33 -0600, "Jay" wrote: "Matt O'Toole" wrote in message news This is a close one folks! If we can get just one more Republican vote, we can pass this legislation, requiring Virginia motorists to *stop* for pedestrians in crosswalks. (snip) Matt O. I am pretty sure this is the law in IL, but most Chicago drivers either do not know, or don't care. A Chicago driver who stops like this, has a good chance of being rear ended by the car behind him. J. Well, it IS a law here in Nebraska. And people don't stop for pedestrians either IN or OUT of a crosswalk. The police have better things to do than to try and enforce yet another law on the books. Unfortunately, even if one gets a plate number the cops here tell you that "if they didn't see it there's nothing they can do". FWIW, I've gotten fairly militant about this. On several occasions, I've stopped walking in front of a car trying to barge through a crosswalk, to assert my ROW. On our college campus, I've gotten the plate number and called it in to campus police - who assure me they _will_ at least lecture the student. And on one memorable occasion, one poor car suffered minor damage when my briefcase accidentally swung into it as it blasted by after a brief discussion. Interestingly, the driver of the next car was cheering for me. Yes, there's some risk involved. But damn! Motorists rule too much of the world as it is! - Frank Krygowski i've been nearly flattened a block away from the Batavia middle school for trying that. (the batavia spur crossing just west of the school) Raddant Road north of Rotolo School? (I used to commute along Raddant.) Next time i'm pushing a scarecrow in front of me with a stick. Actually, i think this year i'm going to do a little photodocumentation. How does anyone cross Butterfield Road on the Batavia Spur? At most times of day, that would be a suicide mission. P.S. Did the police ever follow up with the "unsatisfactory driver"? -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful |
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"Stop for Pedestrians" alive in VA Senate, lost House by 1 vote
On Feb 12, 7:51 pm, Matt O'Toole wrote:
A "stop" law just sends a much stronger message, has a traffic calming effect, and makes enforcement a lot easier. I shouldn't say "just" though because the difference can be tremendous. Anyone who doesn't believe me about the traffic calming effect needs only to go to Canada, where traffic comes to a screeching halt if you even approach the curb. Compare walking, biking, or driving in Vancouver to northern VA, and you'll see the difference immediately. Friends in Zurich, Switzerland told us a similar law had gone into effect. IIRC, the gist of the law was that if a driver hit a pedestrian, it was legally the driver's fault, period. Our friends said it absolutely transformed the experience of walking in the city, for the better. - Frank Krygowski |
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