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Alky cyclist with no lights crashes into parked truck (inquest)



 
 
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Old October 28th 18, 01:28 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
JNugent[_10_]
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Default Alky cyclist with no lights crashes into parked truck (inquest)

On 27/10/2018 19:12, MrCheerful wrote:

PC Sample said that if Mr Wood had a front light on his bike it would
probably have provided sufficient illumination to light up the rear
reflector of the pick-up and warn him of its presence.

https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.u...-night-2140567


There's something not right here.

In a street with no lights (irrespective of the spoeed limit in force),
parked vehicles must be lit during the hours of darkness (ie, not
relying on reflectors).
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Old October 28th 18, 07:10 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Alky cyclist with no lights crashes into parked truck (inquest)

On 28/10/2018 01:28, JNugent wrote:
On 27/10/2018 19:12, MrCheerful wrote:

PC Sample said that if Mr Wood had a front light on his bike it would
probably have provided sufficient illumination to light up the rear
reflector of the pick-up and warn him of its presence.

https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.u...-night-2140567



There's something not right here.

In a street with no lights (irrespective of the spoeed limit in force),
parked vehicles must be lit during the hours of darkness (ie, not
relying on reflectors).


perhaps the parked truck was not on the road, such as in a layby or
recognised parking space? If the speed limit is 30 or less then no
lights are needed. Probably the cash cow would have been milked if it
could be.
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Old October 28th 18, 09:02 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Alky cyclist with no lights crashes into parked truck (inquest)

On 28/10/2018 01:28, JNugent wrote:
On 27/10/2018 19:12, MrCheerful wrote:

PC Sample said that if Mr Wood had a front light on his bike it would
probably have provided sufficient illumination to light up the rear
reflector of the pick-up and warn him of its presence.

https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.u...-night-2140567



There's something not right here.

In a street with no lights (irrespective of the spoeed limit in force),
parked vehicles must be lit during the hours of darkness (ie, not
relying on reflectors).


PC Sample said Mr Wood had successfully ridden down a steep 1:12
gradient hill and he went past a parked Audi car without incident. But
27 metres further on he hit the back of the Toyota pick-up.

Toyota owner Leon Dunlop, who was in his house at the time, heard a
'whizzing noise' from the bike and then the sound of the impact. He went
outside, saw his truck was damaged and then saw the bicycle before
spotting Mr Wood and calling the emergency services.

Mrs Skerrett found that contributory factors to Mr Wood's death were the
fact he had no lights on his bike on a dark night, that the Toyota had
no parking lights, and that he had a high level of alcohol in his body
which would have impaired his ability to control his bike.

https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.u...g-pick-2154316
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Old October 29th 18, 09:33 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Alky cyclist with no lights crashes into parked truck (inquest)

On 28/10/2018 06:10, MrCheerful wrote:

On 28/10/2018 01:28, JNugent wrote:
On 27/10/2018 19:12, MrCheerful wrote:

PC Sample said that if Mr Wood had a front light on his bike it would
probably have provided sufficient illumination to light up the rear
reflector of the pick-up and warn him of its presence.

https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.u...-night-2140567


There's something not right here.

In a street with no lights (irrespective of the spoeed limit in
force), parked vehicles must be lit during the hours of darkness (ie,
not relying on reflectors).


perhaps the parked truck was not on the road, such as in a layby or
recognised parking space?Â* If the speed limit is 30 or less then no
lights are needed.Â* Probably the cash cow would have been milked if it
could be.


As you know, the presence of street lights is what delineates a 30mph
limit, unless there is an order providing a higher limit (and repeater
signs to mark it out along the route).

So generally, an unlit road is not limited to 30mph. NSL applies if the
road is unlit (subject to the possibility of a "special" 30mph or other
limit), and any vehicle parked there has to be lit during the hours of
darknessm which is reasonable enough.

Not sure about laybys. But if the cylist veered into a layby as well as
having no lights on his bike in addition to having had a skinful of
cider, it's hard to know what to say about him that doesn't sound like
"He had it coming", and I don't want to be unduly unkind to someone in
his current position.

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Old October 29th 18, 10:26 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Alky cyclist with no lights crashes into parked truck (inquest)

On 29/10/2018 20:33, JNugent wrote:
On 28/10/2018 06:10, MrCheerful wrote:

On 28/10/2018 01:28, JNugent wrote:
On 27/10/2018 19:12, MrCheerful wrote:

PC Sample said that if Mr Wood had a front light on his bike it
would probably have provided sufficient illumination to light up the
rear reflector of the pick-up and warn him of its presence.

https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.u...-night-2140567


There's something not right here.

In a street with no lights (irrespective of the spoeed limit in
force), parked vehicles must be lit during the hours of darkness (ie,
not relying on reflectors).


perhaps the parked truck was not on the road, such as in a layby or
recognised parking space?Â* If the speed limit is 30 or less then no
lights are needed.Â* Probably the cash cow would have been milked if it
could be.


As you know, the presence of street lights is what delineates a 30mph
limit, unless there is an order providing a higher limit (and repeater
signs to mark it out along the route).

So generally, an unlit road is not limited to 30mph. NSL applies if the
road is unlit (subject to the possibility of a "special" 30mph or other
limit), and any vehicle parked there has to be lit during the hours of
darknessm which is reasonable enough.

Not sure about laybys. But if the cylist veered into a layby as well as
having no lights on his bike in addition to having had a skinful of
cider, it's hard to know what to say about him that doesn't sound like
"He had it coming", and I don't want to be unduly unkind to someone in
his current position.



He had also just come down a significant hill, so the truck may well
have been in a garden or a garage.
 




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