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Old September 19th 18, 09:57 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Andre Jute[_2_]
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On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 7:15:14 PM UTC+1, wrote:
On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 9:10:59 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 3:58:49 PM UTC+1, wrote:
On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 6:33:39 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 9/19/2018 5:23 AM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 2:26:13 AM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote to Jay Beattie:

For extra points, explain how Lois Lerner is not the deep
state incarnate. I'll wait.

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You'll be waiting for a long time, Andrew. The problem is that the American Left has been doing this vicious and immoral crap for so long -- Bobby Kennedy set the tone and his fat little brother industrialized the process of abusing power -- that they think Lois Lerner persecuting her president's opponents is how a civil servant *should* behave. They just don't know any better, and they don't want to know better. And when you corner them and they have no answers to obvious abuses -- and abusers like Janet Reno and Lois Lerner (fine examples of feminist empowerment, those two!) -- they scoff and sneer about "reptilians".

AJ
The only reptilian slime I see in this thread was dragged in by Reno and Lerner



You have your own Tony Robinson persecution over there.

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What continues to amaze me is the entire population of this country can see people like Beattie looking down their noses at everyone else but they cannot see themselves for what they are. One of the big-time lawyers that rides with us contracted cancer and looking at mortality he has become introspective and sees the legal profession entirely different now. He sees a large percentage of the problems in this country as coming directly from them.


Congresspeople that measure their success in the numbers of new laws that they pass and not if the laws were ever necessary or if they could ever have been enforced except in the cases of Janet Reno and her ilk as little more than torture devices.


Trump issued an executive order that for every new regulation, two old ones should be repealed. Apparently, not all civil servants are members of the Deep State: for every new regulation passed, the Trump administration has deepsixed 21 old regulations.

Andre Jute
Credit where it is due

PS Tom, I came to your post about Trump being a moderate a bit late because my computer crashed and it took a while to set up the spare and transfer terabytes of stuff I've written and the supporting research. But I agree with you. If the Democrats were awake, or at least could see past the blood in their eyes, they'd embrace Trump as one of their own; after all, cutting immigration will cause Republican lawmakers a lot of pain when their constituents and corporate donors start screaming that they can't make a buck if Trump takes away their cheap, newly immigrated labour. And if the Republicans weren't so spineless, they would remember that Trump was forever a Democrat, until he saw an opportunity to supplant a weak Republican presidential slate. The same as to the Democrats applies to the Europeans. If they weren't so blinkered (their default mode, and in this I include the British*, is to hate the Americans) they would see that Trump is a pragmatic mixed economy welfare stater well to the left of Mrs Thatcher, a man after their own hearts.

* The late Enoch Powell, one of the two most beautiful speakers of proper English (the other was Alistair Cooke), once said to me, "People like you, who were educated in the United States, who love Americans for all the right reasons, cannot see that they are dangerous." Most British and allied intellectuals (but not the Irish!) hide their disdain for Americans behind a very thin veil of tolerance of crude colonial cousins.


Andre - you don't seem to like moderates. Let's remember that taking the actual speeches into account, John F. Kennedy was as Republican as most of todays moderate Republicans. Unfortunately he had the Democrat trait of fixing the economy by starting wars.


While we're remembering, the Democrats didn't like Nixon because, despite being in Washington longer than most of them, he was an outsider. At the time I wrote an unsigned leader (code for an editorial representing the official view of the newspaper) making the case that Nixon was being impeached simply because they didn't like him. What they're trying to do to Trump is just an intensified version of what they did to Nixon, with a lot of help from Nixon, another parallel to our time.

AJ
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Old September 19th 18, 10:01 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 9/19/2018 3:35 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 10:02:04 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 4:40:32 PM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote:

I don't even get why the lunatic right would hate on Janet Reno. If she was a tyrant who tortured prisoners, she should be the poster-girl of the hell-fire and brimstone set.

-- Jay Beattie.


You should ask a member of the lunatic right to explain that to you. Don't forget to report here so we can all have a giggle.

If you doubt that Reno tortured prisoners, I've already given you a vivid, uncontested example in this thread. If you think you know better, disprove it. Where one finds one example of such brutality, there are usually many more examples to be discovered by any competent investigator. It's not my problem if your media has betrayed its obligation to truth, and to you.


Well, your media is betraying you, too: http://blogs.brown.edu/pols-1821t-20...Walk_Myths.pdf

And why are we debating the past -- and particularly a past that was well-known when Janet Reno was unanimously confirmed by the Senate? Was the FBI not doing its job? The Senate Judiciary Committee not doing its job? The Office of Government Ethics? The staff of every senator of both parties? Even the IRS is part of the vetting process. She was vetted more thoroughly than El Presidente Trump. Why does every internet ****** think they know more than two branches of the federal government?

If we're going to take pot-shots at politicians of the past, I've got serious issues with James Polk and Andrew Jackson. And don't get me started on Warren G. Harding.

-- Jay Beattie.


Great examples of leaders who, despite obvious personal
failings, were excellent on policy, especially as regards
keeping campaign promises, and effective. +1 on all three.


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Old September 19th 18, 10:56 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Andre Jute[_2_]
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On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 10:01:33 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
On 9/19/2018 3:35 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 10:02:04 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 4:40:32 PM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote:

I don't even get why the lunatic right would hate on Janet Reno. If she was a tyrant who tortured prisoners, she should be the poster-girl of the hell-fire and brimstone set.

-- Jay Beattie.

You should ask a member of the lunatic right to explain that to you. Don't forget to report here so we can all have a giggle.

If you doubt that Reno tortured prisoners, I've already given you a vivid, uncontested example in this thread. If you think you know better, disprove it. Where one finds one example of such brutality, there are usually many more examples to be discovered by any competent investigator. It's not my problem if your media has betrayed its obligation to truth, and to you.


Well, your media is betraying you, too: http://blogs.brown.edu/pols-1821t-20...Walk_Myths.pdf

And why are we debating the past -- and particularly a past that was well-known when Janet Reno was unanimously confirmed by the Senate? Was the FBI not doing its job? The Senate Judiciary Committee not doing its job? The Office of Government Ethics? The staff of every senator of both parties? Even the IRS is part of the vetting process. She was vetted more thoroughly than El Presidente Trump. Why does every internet ****** think they know more than two branches of the federal government?

If we're going to take pot-shots at politicians of the past, I've got serious issues with James Polk and Andrew Jackson. And don't get me started on Warren G. Harding.

-- Jay Beattie.


Great examples of leaders who, despite obvious personal
failings, were excellent on policy, especially as regards
keeping campaign promises, and effective. +1 on all three.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


My personal fave is "Silent Cal" Coolidge. When he asked his wife to marry him, and she said yes, he fitted the engagement ring on her finger to free his hands and then hoisted up a calico bag which he gave to her. "What's this?" she demanded. Coolidge replied, "My socks, for mending."

Andre Jute
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Old September 19th 18, 11:26 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Radey Shouman
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Andre Jute writes:

On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 10:01:33 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
On 9/19/2018 3:35 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 10:02:04 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 4:40:32 PM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote:

I don't even get why the lunatic right would hate on Janet Reno.
If she was a tyrant who tortured prisoners, she should be the
poster-girl of the hell-fire and brimstone set.

-- Jay Beattie.

You should ask a member of the lunatic right to explain that to
you. Don't forget to report here so we can all have a giggle.

If you doubt that Reno tortured prisoners, I've already given you
a vivid, uncontested example in this thread. If you think you
know better, disprove it. Where one finds one example of such
brutality, there are usually many more examples to be discovered
by any competent investigator. It's not my problem if your media
has betrayed its obligation to truth, and to you.

Well, your media is betraying you, too:
http://blogs.brown.edu/pols-1821t-20...Walk_Myths.pdf

And why are we debating the past -- and particularly a past that
was well-known when Janet Reno was unanimously confirmed by the
Senate? Was the FBI not doing its job? The Senate Judiciary
Committee not doing its job? The Office of Government Ethics? The
staff of every senator of both parties? Even the IRS is part of
the vetting process. She was vetted more thoroughly than El
Presidente Trump. Why does every internet ****** think they know
more than two branches of the federal government?

If we're going to take pot-shots at politicians of the past, I've
got serious issues with James Polk and Andrew Jackson. And don't
get me started on Warren G. Harding.

-- Jay Beattie.


Great examples of leaders who, despite obvious personal
failings, were excellent on policy, especially as regards
keeping campaign promises, and effective. +1 on all three.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


My personal fave is "Silent Cal" Coolidge. When he asked his wife to
marry him, and she said yes, he fitted the engagement ring on her
finger to free his hands and then hoisted up a calico bag which he
gave to her. "What's this?" she demanded. Coolidge replied, "My socks,
for mending."


No one who inspired an eponym like the "Coolidge effect" could
be all bad.

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Old September 19th 18, 11:36 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 1:50:40 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 9/19/2018 11:40 AM, jbeattie wrote:

STF up and do something. Don't be some basement ****** reading conspiracy sites and complaining about f****** nanny government. ... Go to your city counsel meetings and propose an ordinance that repeals

a bunch of other ordinances if you so hate laws. Sign in, step up to the
mike and try to utter a few coherent sentences on why your agenda should
be taken seriously. After a few years on the ground, then you can
complain about the people who are actually doing something.

There are two types of people. Those who actually do things, and those
who say they're doing them wrong.


--
- Frank Krygowski


I think we all like to think we're in the first category. I'm sure that Jay does as well. And he probably is as much as the rest of us are.
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Old September 19th 18, 11:43 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 1:57:54 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 7:15:14 PM UTC+1, wrote:
On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 9:10:59 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 3:58:49 PM UTC+1, wrote:
On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 6:33:39 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 9/19/2018 5:23 AM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 2:26:13 AM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote to Jay Beattie:

For extra points, explain how Lois Lerner is not the deep
state incarnate. I'll wait.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

You'll be waiting for a long time, Andrew. The problem is that the American Left has been doing this vicious and immoral crap for so long -- Bobby Kennedy set the tone and his fat little brother industrialized the process of abusing power -- that they think Lois Lerner persecuting her president's opponents is how a civil servant *should* behave. They just don't know any better, and they don't want to know better. And when you corner them and they have no answers to obvious abuses -- and abusers like Janet Reno and Lois Lerner (fine examples of feminist empowerment, those two!) -- they scoff and sneer about "reptilians".

AJ
The only reptilian slime I see in this thread was dragged in by Reno and Lerner



You have your own Tony Robinson persecution over there.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

What continues to amaze me is the entire population of this country can see people like Beattie looking down their noses at everyone else but they cannot see themselves for what they are. One of the big-time lawyers that rides with us contracted cancer and looking at mortality he has become introspective and sees the legal profession entirely different now. He sees a large percentage of the problems in this country as coming directly from them.


Congresspeople that measure their success in the numbers of new laws that they pass and not if the laws were ever necessary or if they could ever have been enforced except in the cases of Janet Reno and her ilk as little more than torture devices.

Trump issued an executive order that for every new regulation, two old ones should be repealed. Apparently, not all civil servants are members of the Deep State: for every new regulation passed, the Trump administration has deepsixed 21 old regulations.

Andre Jute
Credit where it is due

PS Tom, I came to your post about Trump being a moderate a bit late because my computer crashed and it took a while to set up the spare and transfer terabytes of stuff I've written and the supporting research. But I agree with you. If the Democrats were awake, or at least could see past the blood in their eyes, they'd embrace Trump as one of their own; after all, cutting immigration will cause Republican lawmakers a lot of pain when their constituents and corporate donors start screaming that they can't make a buck if Trump takes away their cheap, newly immigrated labour. And if the Republicans weren't so spineless, they would remember that Trump was forever a Democrat, until he saw an opportunity to supplant a weak Republican presidential slate. The same as to the Democrats applies to the Europeans. If they weren't so blinkered (their default mode, and in this I include the British*, is to hate the Americans) they would see that Trump is a pragmatic mixed economy welfare stater well to the left of Mrs Thatcher, a man after their own hearts.

* The late Enoch Powell, one of the two most beautiful speakers of proper English (the other was Alistair Cooke), once said to me, "People like you, who were educated in the United States, who love Americans for all the right reasons, cannot see that they are dangerous." Most British and allied intellectuals (but not the Irish!) hide their disdain for Americans behind a very thin veil of tolerance of crude colonial cousins.


Andre - you don't seem to like moderates. Let's remember that taking the actual speeches into account, John F. Kennedy was as Republican as most of todays moderate Republicans. Unfortunately he had the Democrat trait of fixing the economy by starting wars.


While we're remembering, the Democrats didn't like Nixon because, despite being in Washington longer than most of them, he was an outsider. At the time I wrote an unsigned leader (code for an editorial representing the official view of the newspaper) making the case that Nixon was being impeached simply because they didn't like him. What they're trying to do to Trump is just an intensified version of what they did to Nixon, with a lot of help from Nixon, another parallel to our time.

AJ
Ah, nostalgia ain't what it used to be


The part I find most disturbing is that Trump is being more successful than any other President in modern history. And yet that very success that is bringing more riches to this country and pretty soon the world is what the left despises the most. Is this because success of capitalism means and absolute end to socialism? You would think that socialism had designed its own death long ago with the lives of millions under their own leaders but somehow it still rebounds. And here in the US they manage to blame it all on the Republicans which should be impossible.

But as long as they have teachers willing to forego history and people willing to pit one against another to gain power I expect it will continue until it is made far too dangerous to do so. I think that it is simple - freedom of speech does not include the right to commit treason or any of the other crimes listed under the treason laws. Teach Marxism in any manner that a peculiarity of history that murdered a hundred million people and you go to the noose.
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Old September 20th 18, 01:26 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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jbeattie writes:

On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 10:02:04 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 4:40:32 PM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote:

I don't even get why the lunatic right would hate on Janet Reno.
If she was a tyrant who tortured prisoners, she should be the
poster-girl of the hell-fire and brimstone set.

-- Jay Beattie.


You should ask a member of the lunatic right to explain that to
you. Don't forget to report here so we can all have a giggle.

If you doubt that Reno tortured prisoners, I've already given you a
vivid, uncontested example in this thread. If you think you know
better, disprove it. Where one finds one example of such brutality,
there are usually many more examples to be discovered by any
competent investigator. It's not my problem if your media has
betrayed its obligation to truth, and to you.


Well, your media is betraying you, too:
http://blogs.brown.edu/pols-1821t-20...Walk_Myths.pdf

And why are we debating the past -- and particularly a past that was
well-known when Janet Reno was unanimously confirmed by the Senate?
Was the FBI not doing its job? The Senate Judiciary Committee not
doing its job? The Office of Government Ethics? The staff of every
senator of both parties? Even the IRS is part of the vetting
process. She was vetted more thoroughly than El Presidente Trump. Why
does every internet ****** think they know more than two branches of
the federal government?


The demonic preschool moral panic of the 80s and 90s was not one of our
brighter episodes, with all of the craziness of the Salem witch trials
and much less excuse. I'm not sure whose job it was to prevent the use
of public money to prosecute nursery school operators for sodomizing
kiddies with butcher knives on the moon, absent any physical evidence
whatsoever, but a voice of reason from somewhere in government would
have been nice.

What actually happened is that a number of those fine, upstanding, law
school graduates siezed on it as an opportunity for advancement. When I
first moved to Massachusetts I was amazed to discover that Scott
Harshbarger, the DA who prosecuted the ridiculous Fells Acres case, was
running for governor. Fortunately he was defeated, but narrowly.

More recently Martha Coakley tried to parlay her experience in witch
hunting into a run for governor. She cut her legal teeth on the Fells
Acres case and continued to work, as AG, to keep Gerald Amirault, a man
convicted in it, behind bars long after it should have become obvious
what lunacy it was. Happily, she lost as well.

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Old September 20th 18, 01:35 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 2:18:17 PM UTC-4, Andre Jute wrote:
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People coming to this newsgroup will be checking the group name to see if it isn't Politics rather than bicycling. VBEG LOL ;)

Cheers
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Old September 20th 18, 01:43 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 9/19/2018 7:26 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
jbeattie writes:

On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 10:02:04 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 4:40:32 PM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote:

I don't even get why the lunatic right would hate on Janet Reno.
If she was a tyrant who tortured prisoners, she should be the
poster-girl of the hell-fire and brimstone set.

-- Jay Beattie.

You should ask a member of the lunatic right to explain that to
you. Don't forget to report here so we can all have a giggle.

If you doubt that Reno tortured prisoners, I've already given you a
vivid, uncontested example in this thread. If you think you know
better, disprove it. Where one finds one example of such brutality,
there are usually many more examples to be discovered by any
competent investigator. It's not my problem if your media has
betrayed its obligation to truth, and to you.


Well, your media is betraying you, too:
http://blogs.brown.edu/pols-1821t-20...Walk_Myths.pdf

And why are we debating the past -- and particularly a past that was
well-known when Janet Reno was unanimously confirmed by the Senate?
Was the FBI not doing its job? The Senate Judiciary Committee not
doing its job? The Office of Government Ethics? The staff of every
senator of both parties? Even the IRS is part of the vetting
process. She was vetted more thoroughly than El Presidente Trump. Why
does every internet ****** think they know more than two branches of
the federal government?


The demonic preschool moral panic of the 80s and 90s was not one of our
brighter episodes, with all of the craziness of the Salem witch trials
and much less excuse. I'm not sure whose job it was to prevent the use
of public money to prosecute nursery school operators for sodomizing
kiddies with butcher knives on the moon, absent any physical evidence
whatsoever, but a voice of reason from somewhere in government would
have been nice.

What actually happened is that a number of those fine, upstanding, law
school graduates siezed on it as an opportunity for advancement. When I
first moved to Massachusetts I was amazed to discover that Scott
Harshbarger, the DA who prosecuted the ridiculous Fells Acres case, was
running for governor. Fortunately he was defeated, but narrowly.

More recently Martha Coakley tried to parlay her experience in witch
hunting into a run for governor. She cut her legal teeth on the Fells
Acres case and continued to work, as AG, to keep Gerald Amirault, a man
convicted in it, behind bars long after it should have become obvious
what lunacy it was. Happily, she lost as well.


Dorothy Rabinowitz blew the crazy prosecution cult wide
open. But not for her it would have never ended.

http://www.famous-trials.com/mcmartin/940-daycareabuse

Justice was never served; innocents were abused down to
death and until today as the wrongs resisted righting.

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Andrew Muzi
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Old September 20th 18, 02:33 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:35:32 -0700 (PDT), Sir Ridesalot
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On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 2:18:17 PM UTC-4, Andre Jute wrote:
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People coming to this newsgroup will be checking the group name to see if it isn't Politics rather than bicycling. VBEG LOL ;)

Cheers


Perhaps political discussion is all right... if you are riding a
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