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Old November 6th 06, 06:59 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Howard Kveck
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Going through the thread "Armstrong's NYC marathon time?" we see the following
picks for time:

BJC at 2:35
Cowpunk at 2:55
RJK3 at "under 2:40: the question is by how much"
Joedopebucket said "I will be impressed if he does it under 3 hours."
Kyle Legate clocked in with "Who cares?"
Miley90 estimated 3:07-3:12
Rik Van Diesel guessed 2:44
Dwayne thought matching Jaja's 2:55 would be good but beating 2:42 (a time turned in
by Rolf Aldag in his marthon debut) would be a compulsive Lance's line.
Rik Van Diesel changed to a 2:40
Ryan Cousineau went with a "supermotivated" 2:34
Ewoud Dronkert went with a 3:10
Phil Holman said 2:57
Michael Press at 2:35
Mark Fenelli at 2:50
Ben Weiner talked about rbr-LANCE drug use scenarios

Since he ran a 2:59:37, I'd say that Joedopebucket is now officially impressed
(if only just), Phil Holman came closest with actual numbers and Ryan Cousineau gets
the Alex Trebekian "Oooh..."

Noted that Nike provided three elite-level marathoneers to pace him. Did they
peel off as they approached the line or did they get to sprint away at the end?

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Old November 6th 06, 08:45 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Donald Munro
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Howard Kveck wrote:
Noted that Nike provided three elite-level marathoneers to pace him. Did they
peel off as they approached the line or did they get to sprint away at the end?


and did LANCE tell them to pull or get dropped.

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Old November 6th 06, 03:24 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Donald Munro wrote:
Howard Kveck wrote:
Noted that Nike provided three elite-level marathoneers to pace him. Did they
peel off as they approached the line or did they get to sprint away at the end?


and did LANCE tell them to pull or get dropped.


LOL!

Steve
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Old November 6th 06, 04:17 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Dwayne
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Howard Kveck wrote:

Noted that Nike provided three elite-level marathoneers to pace him. Did they
peel off as they approached the line or did they get to sprint away at the end?


The pacing situation was weird. Joan Benoit Samuelson was fetching
drinks from aid stations and handing them to LANCE. Hicham El Guerrouj,
recently retired mile record holder, seemed to jump in with about 8
miles to go, and was fetching GU packs from aid stations, tearing them
open, and handing them to LANCE. There was a Hispanic guy with a
T-shirt reading "GERMAN", who I thought might have been former NYCM
winner German Silva, and ran with LANCE almost the whole way. The only
one of these I noticed crossing the finish line was El Guerrouj. I
never noticed Alberto Salazar, who was mentioned in some media stories.

I found the sight of El G and Joanie fetching refreshments very
strange. Either (a) Nike doled out huge payola to them; (b) LANCE is a
much nicer guy than it appears from media reports, and these other
athletes really like him; (c) LANCE is so highly respected for his
achievements that athletics superstars want to fetch him drinks and GU.
I have no idea which applies...

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Old November 6th 06, 04:28 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Jim Flom
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"Dwayne" wrote in message
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Howard Kveck wrote:

Noted that Nike provided three elite-level marathoneers to pace him.
Did they
peel off as they approached the line or did they get to sprint away at
the end?


The pacing situation was weird. Joan Benoit Samuelson was fetching
drinks from aid stations and handing them to LANCE. Hicham El Guerrouj,
recently retired mile record holder, seemed to jump in with about 8
miles to go, and was fetching GU packs from aid stations, tearing them
open, and handing them to LANCE. There was a Hispanic guy with a
T-shirt reading "GERMAN", who I thought might have been former NYCM
winner German Silva, and ran with LANCE almost the whole way. The only
one of these I noticed crossing the finish line was El Guerrouj. I
never noticed Alberto Salazar, who was mentioned in some media stories.


Sounds like cheating to me...

JF


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Old November 6th 06, 04:32 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Dwayne wrote:
There was a Hispanic guy with a T-shirt reading "GERMAN",


That was an incognito Ullrich in his Spanish disguise.


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Old November 6th 06, 06:31 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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That's the only way those folks are going to get any television time these
days, as Lance's domestiques.


"Dwayne" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
Howard Kveck wrote:

Noted that Nike provided three elite-level marathoneers to pace him.
Did they
peel off as they approached the line or did they get to sprint away at
the end?


The pacing situation was weird. Joan Benoit Samuelson was fetching
drinks from aid stations and handing them to LANCE. Hicham El Guerrouj,
recently retired mile record holder, seemed to jump in with about 8
miles to go, and was fetching GU packs from aid stations, tearing them
open, and handing them to LANCE. There was a Hispanic guy with a
T-shirt reading "GERMAN", who I thought might have been former NYCM
winner German Silva, and ran with LANCE almost the whole way. The only
one of these I noticed crossing the finish line was El Guerrouj. I
never noticed Alberto Salazar, who was mentioned in some media stories.

I found the sight of El G and Joanie fetching refreshments very
strange. Either (a) Nike doled out huge payola to them; (b) LANCE is a
much nicer guy than it appears from media reports, and these other
athletes really like him; (c) LANCE is so highly respected for his
achievements that athletics superstars want to fetch him drinks and GU.
I have no idea which applies...



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Old November 6th 06, 08:07 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Rik Van Diesel
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Howard Kveck wrote:
Going through the thread "Armstrong's NYC marathon time?" we see the following
picks for time:

BJC at 2:35
Cowpunk at 2:55
RJK3 at "under 2:40: the question is by how much"
Joedopebucket said "I will be impressed if he does it under 3 hours."
Kyle Legate clocked in with "Who cares?"
Miley90 estimated 3:07-3:12
Rik Van Diesel guessed 2:44
Dwayne thought matching Jaja's 2:55 would be good but beating 2:42 (a time turned in
by Rolf Aldag in his marthon debut) would be a compulsive Lance's line.
Rik Van Diesel changed to a 2:40
Ryan Cousineau went with a "supermotivated" 2:34
Ewoud Dronkert went with a 3:10
Phil Holman said 2:57
Michael Press at 2:35
Mark Fenelli at 2:50
Ben Weiner talked about rbr-LANCE drug use scenarios

Since he ran a 2:59:37, I'd say that Joedopebucket is now officially impressed
(if only just), Phil Holman came closest with actual numbers and Ryan Cousineau gets
the Alex Trebekian "Oooh..."

Noted that Nike provided three elite-level marathoneers to pace him. Did they
peel off as they approached the line or did they get to sprint away at the end?

--
tanx,
Howard

Never take a tenant with a monkey.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?


Thanks you for the summary. I was WAY off. Lance is soft and slow! My
wife would have beaten his sorry ass. Why is it that any time someone
competes in a sport they haven't spent their life training for and then
subsequently suck they turn around and say this is the hardest sport
ever. So weak! Think Michael Jordan at baseball, then Golf..

RVD

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Old November 6th 06, 08:40 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Dwayne wrote:

Howard Kveck wrote:


Noted that Nike provided three elite-level marathoneers to pace him. Did they
peel off as they approached the line or did they get to sprint away at the end?



The pacing situation was weird. Joan Benoit Samuelson was fetching
drinks from aid stations and handing them to LANCE. Hicham El Guerrouj,
recently retired mile record holder, seemed to jump in with about 8
miles to go, and was fetching GU packs from aid stations, tearing them
open, and handing them to LANCE. There was a Hispanic guy with a
T-shirt reading "GERMAN", who I thought might have been former NYCM
winner German Silva, and ran with LANCE almost the whole way. The only
one of these I noticed crossing the finish line was El Guerrouj. I
never noticed Alberto Salazar, who was mentioned in some media stories.

I found the sight of El G and Joanie fetching refreshments very
strange. Either (a) Nike doled out huge payola to them; (b) LANCE is a
much nicer guy than it appears from media reports, and these other
athletes really like him;


They like him--they REALLY LIKE HIM!!

Steve


(c) LANCE is so highly respected for his
achievements that athletics superstars want to fetch him drinks and GU.
I have no idea which applies...



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Old November 6th 06, 08:58 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On 6 Nov 2006 11:07:57 -0800, "Rik Van Diesel"
wrote:


Howard Kveck wrote:
Going through the thread "Armstrong's NYC marathon time?" we see the following
picks for time:

BJC at 2:35
Cowpunk at 2:55
RJK3 at "under 2:40: the question is by how much"
Joedopebucket said "I will be impressed if he does it under 3 hours."
Kyle Legate clocked in with "Who cares?"
Miley90 estimated 3:07-3:12
Rik Van Diesel guessed 2:44
Dwayne thought matching Jaja's 2:55 would be good but beating 2:42 (a time turned in
by Rolf Aldag in his marthon debut) would be a compulsive Lance's line.
Rik Van Diesel changed to a 2:40
Ryan Cousineau went with a "supermotivated" 2:34
Ewoud Dronkert went with a 3:10
Phil Holman said 2:57
Michael Press at 2:35
Mark Fenelli at 2:50
Ben Weiner talked about rbr-LANCE drug use scenarios

Since he ran a 2:59:37, I'd say that Joedopebucket is now officially impressed
(if only just), Phil Holman came closest with actual numbers and Ryan Cousineau gets
the Alex Trebekian "Oooh..."

Noted that Nike provided three elite-level marathoneers to pace him. Did they
peel off as they approached the line or did they get to sprint away at the end?

--
tanx,
Howard

Never take a tenant with a monkey.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?


Thanks you for the summary. I was WAY off. Lance is soft and slow! My
wife would have beaten his sorry ass. Why is it that any time someone
competes in a sport they haven't spent their life training for and then
subsequently suck they turn around and say this is the hardest sport
ever. So weak! Think Michael Jordan at baseball, then Golf..

RVD


Watching him run, it was hard to believe he had ever been good at short
course Triathlons, he just wasn't moving like a even a good recreational
runner.

(Trying hard not to be controversial), hypothetically, if someone had
always relied on PEDs, maybe they'd underestimate the necessary training
and overestimate their ability?

I do feel empathy for him. He clearly likes to go out and run and ride but
he can't enter any bike races for fear that people would diss him. And if
he goes and runs and doesn't win, then people get on him for that. Yeah, I
know, poor Lance.


 




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