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Old January 2nd 07, 05:06 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
MagillaGorilla
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http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...an07/jan02news

Here's a guy who thinks he's done something in the sport by wearing a
yellow jersey knowing full well he would never keep it and not even
crack the top 20. Same with that jackass Bertogliatta or whatever the
**** his name is. These riders are all one trick ponies like Debbie
Gibson singing in a mall.

This whole idea of celebrating interim leaders before a race is finished
is stupid and really needs to stop. It's an embarrassment to the sport.

What Voeckler did is the equivalent of a talented miler leading the New
York City marathon for the first 2 miles and then getting dropped...and
doing that knowing he would get dropped and finishing 30 minutes down.
And then he tries to tell everyone how great a performance that was in
the marathon just because he was "leading" it.

Since the Tour Voeckler won nothing but some trivial French nonsense.
And he's the lead story in cyclingnews just because he wore the yellow
jersey for a couple of days when the real race leaders could care less.
What an embarassment to Hinault's legacy and the sport of cycling in
general.

Wearing the yellow jersey with absolutely no chance of winning the
overall GC is pathetic, meaningless, and stupid.

Thanks,

Magilla
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Old January 2nd 07, 07:34 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Kurgan Gringioni
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MagillaGorilla wrote:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...an07/jan02news

Here's a guy who thinks he's done something in the sport by wearing a
yellow jersey knowing full well he would never keep it and not even
crack the top 20. Same with that jackass Bertogliatta or whatever the
**** his name is. These riders are all one trick ponies like Debbie
Gibson singing in a mall.

This whole idea of celebrating interim leaders before a race is finished
is stupid and really needs to stop. It's an embarrassment to the sport.


snip

Wearing the yellow jersey with absolutely no chance of winning the
overall GC is pathetic, meaningless, and stupid.




Dumbass -


Au contraire. Voeckler continues to get paid. Worked for him. Worked
for W Bush too, with "Mission Accomplished". He got re-elected and
still gets paid.


thanks,

K. Gringioni.

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Old January 2nd 07, 07:41 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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So in light of this attitude, I assume you would want all stage races
to eliminate all time bonuses for the sprinters since they have no
chance at winning the overall and the time bonus's only purpose is to
put some sprinter in yellow for a few days.

And of course you would want the prologs eliminated too since they
exist only to put someone in yellow.

And to complete this anti-sprinter mindset, eliminate all time bonuses
for all mountain stages too because you don't want to give one climber
a bonus over another because he can out sprint the next.

Rick


MagillaGorilla wrote:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...an07/jan02news

Here's a guy who thinks he's done something in the sport by wearing a
yellow jersey knowing full well he would never keep it and not even
crack the top 20. Same with that jackass Bertogliatta or whatever the
**** his name is. These riders are all one trick ponies like Debbie
Gibson singing in a mall.

This whole idea of celebrating interim leaders before a race is finished
is stupid and really needs to stop. It's an embarrassment to the sport.

What Voeckler did is the equivalent of a talented miler leading the New
York City marathon for the first 2 miles and then getting dropped...and
doing that knowing he would get dropped and finishing 30 minutes down.
And then he tries to tell everyone how great a performance that was in
the marathon just because he was "leading" it.

Since the Tour Voeckler won nothing but some trivial French nonsense.
And he's the lead story in cyclingnews just because he wore the yellow
jersey for a couple of days when the real race leaders could care less.
What an embarassment to Hinault's legacy and the sport of cycling in
general.

Wearing the yellow jersey with absolutely no chance of winning the
overall GC is pathetic, meaningless, and stupid.

Thanks,

Magilla


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Old January 2nd 07, 07:51 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
benjo maso
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"MagillaGorilla" wrote in message
news
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...an07/jan02news

Here's a guy who thinks he's done something in the sport by wearing a
yellow jersey knowing full well he would never keep it and not even crack
the top 20.


Actually, he did, He finished 18th.

Same with that jackass Bertogliatta or whatever the **** his name is.
These riders are all one trick ponies like Debbie Gibson singing in a
mall.

This whole idea of celebrating interim leaders before a race is finished
is stupid and really needs to stop. It's an embarrassment to the sport.

What Voeckler did is the equivalent of a talented miler leading the New
York City marathon for the first 2 miles and then getting dropped...and
doing that knowing he would get dropped and finishing 30 minutes down.


I'm afraid you're wrong. Bicycle racing in general and the Tour de France in
particular are so interesting just because it's much more that winning.

And then he tries to tell everyone how great a performance that was in the
marathon just because he was "leading" it.

Since the Tour Voeckler won nothing but some trivial French nonsense. And
he's the lead story in cyclingnews just because he wore the yellow jersey
for a couple of days when the real race leaders could care less. What an
embarassment to Hinault's legacy and the sport of cycling in general.

Wearing the yellow jersey with absolutely no chance of winning the overall
GC is pathetic, meaningless, and stupid.


By wearing the yellow jersey for ten days, Voeckler earned about $ 500.000
in presence money, endorsing, etc. That's neither pathetic, nor meaningless
and certainly not stupid.

Benjo


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Old January 2nd 07, 08:20 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
MagillaGorilla
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Kurgan Gringioni wrote:

MagillaGorilla wrote:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...an07/jan02news

Here's a guy who thinks he's done something in the sport by wearing a
yellow jersey knowing full well he would never keep it and not even
crack the top 20. Same with that jackass Bertogliatta or whatever the
**** his name is. These riders are all one trick ponies like Debbie
Gibson singing in a mall.

This whole idea of celebrating interim leaders before a race is finished
is stupid and really needs to stop. It's an embarrassment to the sport.



snip

Wearing the yellow jersey with absolutely no chance of winning the
overall GC is pathetic, meaningless, and stupid.





Dumbass -


Au contraire. Voeckler continues to get paid. Worked for him. Worked
for W Bush too, with "Mission Accomplished". He got re-elected and
still gets paid.


thanks,

K. Gringioni.



I wasn't talking about his salary. I'm talking about his career, his
legacy. It's an illusion. The fact that some French team is willing to
pay him for this illusion has nothing to do with the fact that his
career palmares are garbage.

No, I thank you,

Magilla
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Old January 2nd 07, 08:22 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Kurgan Gringioni wrote:

Au contraire. Voeckler continues to get paid. Worked for him. Worked
for W Bush too, with "Mission Accomplished". He got re-elected and
still gets paid.


Dumbass,

Comparing W to Voeckler is unfair. Voeckler's trademark
is going on early attacks that inevitably don't lead to victory.
Hey, wait a minute.

Ben
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Old January 2nd 07, 08:25 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
MagillaGorilla
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wrote:

So in light of this attitude, I assume you would want all stage races
to eliminate all time bonuses for the sprinters since they have no
chance at winning the overall and the time bonus's only purpose is to
put some sprinter in yellow for a few days.


Yes. Time bonuses on flat stages are gay.





And of course you would want the prologs eliminated too since they
exist only to put someone in yellow.


No, prologues are a legitimate time trial.




And to complete this anti-sprinter mindset, eliminate all time bonuses
for all mountain stages too because you don't want to give one climber
a bonus over another because he can out sprint the next.


Time bonuses on mountain stages are cool.



Rick


MagillaGorilla wrote:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...an07/jan02news

Here's a guy who thinks he's done something in the sport by wearing a
yellow jersey knowing full well he would never keep it and not even
crack the top 20. Same with that jackass Bertogliatta or whatever the
**** his name is. These riders are all one trick ponies like Debbie
Gibson singing in a mall.

This whole idea of celebrating interim leaders before a race is finished
is stupid and really needs to stop. It's an embarrassment to the sport.

What Voeckler did is the equivalent of a talented miler leading the New
York City marathon for the first 2 miles and then getting dropped...and
doing that knowing he would get dropped and finishing 30 minutes down.
And then he tries to tell everyone how great a performance that was in
the marathon just because he was "leading" it.

Since the Tour Voeckler won nothing but some trivial French nonsense.
And he's the lead story in cyclingnews just because he wore the yellow
jersey for a couple of days when the real race leaders could care less.
What an embarassment to Hinault's legacy and the sport of cycling in
general.

Wearing the yellow jersey with absolutely no chance of winning the
overall GC is pathetic, meaningless, and stupid.

Thanks,

Magilla



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Old January 2nd 07, 08:26 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Geraard Spergen
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MagillaGorilla wrote:

I wasn't talking about his salary. I'm talking about his career, his
legacy. It's an illusion. The fact that some French team is willing to
pay him for this illusion has nothing to do with the fact that his
career palmares are garbage.


The illusion is that any sportsman's career is about anything other than
celebrity.
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Old January 2nd 07, 08:35 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
MagillaGorilla
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benjo maso wrote:

"MagillaGorilla" wrote in message
news
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...an07/jan02news

Here's a guy who thinks he's done something in the sport by wearing a
yellow jersey knowing full well he would never keep it and not even crack
the top 20.



Actually, he did, He finished 18th.


Okay, so he's a great rider after all. NOT.



Same with that jackass Bertogliatta or whatever the **** his name is.
These riders are all one trick ponies like Debbie Gibson singing in a
mall.

This whole idea of celebrating interim leaders before a race is finished
is stupid and really needs to stop. It's an embarrassment to the sport.

What Voeckler did is the equivalent of a talented miler leading the New
York City marathon for the first 2 miles and then getting dropped...and
doing that knowing he would get dropped and finishing 30 minutes down.



I'm afraid you're wrong. Bicycle racing in general and the Tour de France in
particular are so interesting just because it's much more that winning.


Wrong, Benji. Riders dope because they want to win. Riders like
Ullrich who keep getting second get all schizo, take ecstacy and then
travel to Spain to pay doctors $70,000 for blood transfusion programs.
Pro cycling is all about winning. Ask Bettini. Ask Boonen. Ask
Museuuw. Ask Armstrong, Hinault, LeMond, etc..

Do you know who Lance Armstrong is without his Tour victories and world
championship win? He's Ernie Lechuga.




And then he tries to tell everyone how great a performance that was in the
marathon just because he was "leading" it.

Since the Tour Voeckler won nothing but some trivial French nonsense. And
he's the lead story in cyclingnews just because he wore the yellow jersey
for a couple of days when the real race leaders could care less. What an
embarassment to Hinault's legacy and the sport of cycling in general.

Wearing the yellow jersey with absolutely no chance of winning the overall
GC is pathetic, meaningless, and stupid.



By wearing the yellow jersey for ten days, Voeckler earned about $ 500.000
in presence money, endorsing, etc. That's neither pathetic, nor meaningless
and certainly not stupid.


So that makes him a great rider and a respectable cyclist?

I'm calling the dog catcher, Benji.

Magilla
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Old January 2nd 07, 08:38 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
MagillaGorilla
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Geraard Spergen wrote:

MagillaGorilla wrote:

I wasn't talking about his salary. I'm talking about his career, his
legacy. It's an illusion. The fact that some French team is willing
to pay him for this illusion has nothing to do with the fact that his
career palmares are garbage.



The illusion is that any sportsman's career is about anything other than
celebrity.



There might be something profound in this statement.

Magilla
 




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