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Where do we go from here?
Another rider comes out of the woodwork and what happens next? Luckily for T Mobile a change of roster and a new image at the end of last season has perhaps given them a clean break. What does it mean for the likes of 'great british hope for the future' Mark Cavendish? I'm hopeful that we really can see a clean peloton in the future but as it appears this has never been the case will my hopes and dreams ever come true? Here's to Bob Stapleton and his young T Mobile bucaneers. Good luck boys - do it clean! "Telekom has been an active sponsor of cycling for 16 years and has always strived to take responsibility for the sport. At present cycling is not image-enhancing, so we had two possibilities; either to pull the plug on our sponsoring or fulfill our sponsorship agreement until 2010. "We have decided on the latter course. We want to give Bob Stapleton and his young team the chance to continue on their clean, clear and transparent course - and live up to our commitment and responsibility to shape change in cycling. That is what we set out to do when we re- launched the team last September." http://www.t-mobile-team.com/tmo_tea...794/ref/889390 |
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On May 24, 7:23 am, wrote:
Where do we go from here? Well I'm wondering what we will be learning about Telekom riders in, say, the '96 Tour. Anybody remember who was riding for them there and how they did? DR |
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DirtRoadie wrote:
On May 24, 7:23 am, wrote: Where do we go from here? Well I'm wondering what we will be learning about Telekom riders in, say, the '96 Tour. Anybody remember who was riding for them there and how they did? DR Please help save cycle racing. Support us in the "UCI and Doping Solution" thread. Jan |
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On Thu, 24 May 2007 14:51:47 +0100, "Jan" wrote:
DirtRoadie wrote: On May 24, 7:23 am, wrote: Where do we go from here? Well I'm wondering what we will be learning about Telekom riders in, say, the '96 Tour. Anybody remember who was riding for them there and how they did? DR Please help save cycle racing. Support us in the "UCI and Doping Solution" thread. Sorry, bad idea. It sounds good, but walk it through from the POV of each player. You'd think a game as clever and subtle as bike racing that depends so much on understanding and working with and against the self-interests and resources of your competitors would produce better thinking than that silly, dramatic gesture. That's what it is, silly and dramatic. Makes as much sense as going to the front and riding everyone off your wheel. A good system is one that forces the riders, however reluctantly, to work with the system. Not one that forces them to fight it to the death. The present system and the one you propose do that. Ron |
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![]() Please help save cycle racing. Support us in the "UCI and Doping Solution" thread. Are you under the laughable impression that you can do anything and that the UCI will listen to you? |
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On Thu, 24 May 2007 10:27:11 -0400, RonSonic
wrote: A good system is one that forces the riders, however reluctantly, to work with the system. Not one that forces them to fight it to the death. The present system and the one you propose do that. The fundamental flaw is the lack of a union that has teeth - and I'm not particularly a union kind of guy. No matter what you propose, the rider that is charged or confesses is out in the wind, all by themselves. Maybe they have a small fortune to burn through, maybe not, but it is one person and no leverage to straighten any bends in the system. It takes a stand up person with way more backbone than most or someone with nothing more to lose to step away and know pretty much the only ones with you are the real friends - and no one has as many as they think - and people you can pay. Hell, you should see the little things and how people can't make themselves do the right thing. Too many people choose what they think other people will think over doing what's right. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... |
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On May 24, 7:39 am, DirtRoadie wrote:
On May 24, 7:23 am, wrote: Where do we go from here? Well I'm wondering what we will be learning about Telekom riders in, say, the '96 Tour. Anybody remember who was riding for them there and how they did? It's all coming back to me now that one of them is holding a news conference tomorrow. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aAc2l_jUDiNI DR |
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On May 24, 11:11 pm, DirtRoadie wrote:
It's all coming back to me now that one of them is holding a news conference tomorrow.http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aAc2l_jUDiNI DR I think we can guess what "Mr. 60%" might fess up to. |
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