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Old May 25th 07, 09:00 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Jason Spaceman
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From the article:
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By Phil Sheridan
Inquirer Columnist

Only one thing was proven beyond a reasonable doubt during Floyd
Landis' appeal hearing over the last two weeks.

Professional bicycle racing is a filthy sport and, in a perfect world,
the Tour de France would go away and never come back. Certainly there
is no reason for anyone to watch cycling's premier event with any
faith that it is clean.

Here's all you really need to know. Landis and his attorneys may
succeed in discrediting the technicians in the French lab that
produced his positive tests for synthetic testosterone, but they will
never be able to succeed in winning back Landis' reputation. Whether
he cheated to win last year's Tour is almost beside the point now that
we've seen what he'll stoop to in order to win his case.

Most of the testimony over the nine-day appeal hearing centered on the
science of mass spectrometry and the procedures followed by the French
national lab. No matter how the three-person panel of arbitrators
rules - and that could take as long as 30 days - there is a fatal flaw
in the Landis camp's approach.

From the moment news of his positive test broke last summer, Landis
has acted like a guilty man.

The most egregious example of that was the episode involving Greg
LeMond last week. It was shocking, sensationalistic stuff. LeMond
testified that he received a menacing phone call the night before he
took the stand, that the caller pretended to be the relative who
sexually molested LeMond when he was a boy.
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Old May 25th 07, 09:55 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Donald Munro
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Jason Spaceman wrote:
By Phil Sheridan
Inquirer Columnist
Professional bicycle racing is a filthy sport and, in a perfect world,
the Tour de France would go away and never come back. Certainly there
is no reason for anyone to watch cycling's premier event with any
faith that it is clean.


In a perfect world hypocrites like this guy would suffer from spontaneous
combustion or be condemned to go on a hunting trip with Cheney.

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Old May 25th 07, 10:34 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Caroline
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"Donald Munro" wrote in message
. com...
Jason Spaceman wrote:
By Phil Sheridan
Inquirer Columnist
Professional bicycle racing is a filthy sport and, in a perfect world,
the Tour de France would go away and never come back. Certainly there
is no reason for anyone to watch cycling's premier event with any
faith that it is clean.


In a perfect world hypocrites like this guy would suffer from spontaneous
combustion or be condemned to go on a hunting trip with Cheney.


ummm.... 'Scuze me, but IF you want the world to believe in your innocence,
you don't start the Tour by announcing that you have a severely arthritic
hip that you'll have replaced as soon as the race is over, then go eleven
minutes down in ONE day, then come back the next day and turn in a
performance that looks like you've turned in your team bike for a Harley,
and expect no one to believe a lab test that shows synthetic testosterone.
There IS a crediblity gap here somewhere.

I hate what the directeurs sportif and trainers have done to cycling with
their doping. I have known cyclists who were doped without their knowing it
because the team honchos came to them with "vitamins" they needed. All of
the cycling governing agencies are going after the wrong people when they go
after the athletes. NO athlete can do this stuff alone. Then when the acts
are so flagrant that they leave blood bags behind for someone to find and
test? Tours de Mafia.

Caroline


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Old May 25th 07, 11:12 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Donald Munro
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Jason Spaceman wrote:
By Phil Sheridan
Inquirer Columnist
Professional bicycle racing is a filthy sport and, in a perfect world,
the Tour de France would go away and never come back. Certainly there
is no reason for anyone to watch cycling's premier event with any
faith that it is clean.


Donald Munro wrote:
In a perfect world hypocrites like this guy would suffer from spontaneous
combustion or be condemned to go on a hunting trip with Cheney.


Caroline wrote:
There IS a crediblity gap here somewhere.


The guys a hypocrite because he assumes cycling is the only "filthy
sport". The only difference between the so called filthy sport and the
"clean sports" he normally covers (such as super squeaky-clean American
football which appears to be his speciality
(http://www.philly.com/inquirer/colum...phil_sheridan/) is cycling
authorities do not cover up, or at least they're don't have enough money
to cover up properly.
Anyway he's from Philadelphia.

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Old May 25th 07, 11:13 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On May 25, 5:34 am, "Caroline" wrote:

I hate what the directeurs sportif and trainers have done to cycling with
their doping. I have known cyclists who were doped without their knowing it
because the team honchos came to them with "vitamins" they needed. All of
the cycling governing agencies are going after the wrong people when they go
after the athletes.



dumbass,

that babe in the woods act is bull****.

this is aldag's quote :

"About four of us sat on the curb during one of the Grand Tours,"
began Aldag, referring to his 1994 season. "We had been totally
dropped and couldn't keep up. What could we do? I started thinking
about doping and asked around."


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Old May 25th 07, 01:39 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Caroline
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"Donald Munro" wrote in message
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Caroline wrote:
Anyway he's from Philadelphia.



Ahhh... Well, you left that part out!

Caroline
Who's not from Phillyadel[phia, but likes their steak sandwiches.


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Old May 25th 07, 01:50 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Caroline
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wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 25, 5:34 am, "Caroline" wrote:

I hate what the directeurs sportif and trainers have done to cycling with
their doping. I have known cyclists who were doped without their knowing
it
because the team honchos came to them with "vitamins" they needed. All
of
the cycling governing agencies are going after the wrong people when they
go
after the athletes.



dumbass,

that babe in the woods act is bull****.

this is aldag's quote :

"About four of us sat on the curb during one of the Grand Tours,"
began Aldag, referring to his 1994 season. "We had been totally
dropped and couldn't keep up. What could we do? I started thinking
about doping and asked around."



So he was too damned stupid to think, "Man, something's gotta be wrong with
my training program..."

The bottom line here, in my opinion, is that doping could NOT get to where
it is today through athletes alone. Now, are there lazy people who want to
win the Tour without working? You betcha! And there always will be. But I
don't know of any doping shops where you have to show your UCI or USCF or
whatever federation license in order to buy their goods. And I do know
cyclists who were pushed into it by their team's trainers and coaches. Once
a trainer or a coach is proven to have promoted or assisted or facilitated
doping, that person should be banned from the sport for life.

Caroline



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Old May 25th 07, 01:57 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Sandy
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Dans le message de news:[email protected],
Caroline a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 25, 5:34 am, "Caroline" wrote:

I hate what the directeurs sportif and trainers have done to
cycling with their doping. I have known cyclists who were doped
without their knowing it
because the team honchos came to them with "vitamins" they needed. All
of
the cycling governing agencies are going after the wrong people
when they go
after the athletes.



dumbass,

that babe in the woods act is bull****.

this is aldag's quote :

"About four of us sat on the curb during one of the Grand Tours,"
began Aldag, referring to his 1994 season. "We had been totally
dropped and couldn't keep up. What could we do? I started thinking
about doping and asked around."



So he was too damned stupid to think, "Man, something's gotta be
wrong with my training program..."

The bottom line here, in my opinion, is that doping could NOT get to
where it is today through athletes alone. Now, are there lazy people
who want to win the Tour without working? You betcha! And there
always will be. But I don't know of any doping shops where you have
to show your UCI or USCF or whatever federation license in order to
buy their goods. And I do know cyclists who were pushed into it by
their team's trainers and coaches. Once a trainer or a coach is
proven to have promoted or assisted or facilitated doping, that
person should be banned from the sport for life.
Caroline


Are you occasionally beset by a forgiveness and remediation mode, or is this
you more or less always ?


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Old May 25th 07, 02:03 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Fri, 25 May 2007 12:12:41 +0200, Donald Munro
wrote:

Jason Spaceman wrote:
By Phil Sheridan
Inquirer Columnist
Professional bicycle racing is a filthy sport and, in a perfect world,
the Tour de France would go away and never come back. Certainly there
is no reason for anyone to watch cycling's premier event with any
faith that it is clean.


Donald Munro wrote:
In a perfect world hypocrites like this guy would suffer from spontaneous
combustion or be condemned to go on a hunting trip with Cheney.


Caroline wrote:
There IS a crediblity gap here somewhere.


The guys a hypocrite because he assumes cycling is the only "filthy
sport". The only difference between the so called filthy sport and the
"clean sports" he normally covers (such as super squeaky-clean American
football which appears to be his speciality
(http://www.philly.com/inquirer/colum...phil_sheridan/) is cycling
authorities do not cover up, or at least they're don't have enough money
to cover up properly.


Not only do they not cover up, they wallow in it. Sort of joining this weird
confessional fad by proxy. McQuade didn't dope but he wants to stand up and cry
as he confesses like all the cool kids.

Besides, lets just say that everybody is telling the truth .... Football with
guys buying steroids from trainers who fetch them from foreign places is a hell
of a lot "cleaner" than the Trainspotting like imagery DeCanio invokes from his
Italian experience.

Anyway he's from Philadelphia.


Oh, ****. Nevermind.

Ron
 




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