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On Fri, 9 Jan 2015 03:38:44 +0000 (UTC), Doc O'Leary
wrote: For your reference, records indicate that John B. Slocomb wrote: You are saying that the Chinese have been taking powdered rhino horn for at least two thousand years and no one has discovered that it doesn't work? Actually, it turns out that my suggested use is a misconception: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhinoce..._trade_and_use Regardless, *many* people have discovered that it doesn’t work as a medicine. Just not the ones who take it, I assume, who may themselves be ignorant of the placebo effect. If only they were homeopaths, too, the rhinos would be doing a lot better in the wild. Regardless of how it is used, for some 2,000 years people have been buying the stuff. Do you really believe that all those peoples - millions I would guess over 2,000 years - bought it and it did nothing? -- Cheers, John B. |
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John B. Slocomb wrote: On Fri, 9 Jan 2015 03:38:44 +0000 (UTC), Doc O'Leary wrote: Regardless, *many* people have discovered that it doesn’t work as a medicine. Just not the ones who take it, I assume, who may themselves be ignorant of the placebo effect. If only they were homeopaths, too, the rhinos would be doing a lot better in the wild. Regardless of how it is used, for some 2,000 years people have been buying the stuff. Do you really believe that all those peoples - millions I would guess over 2,000 years - bought it and it did nothing? Yes. Knowing what we know now, it is quite clear how pre-scientific humans could (and still can) be fooled into putting their faith in things that don’t actually do anything, or sometimes are outright dangerous. To believe otherwise is to set yourself up to be scammed by the next bit of quackery that comes along. -- "Also . . . I can kill you with my brain." River Tam, Trash, Firefly |
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![]() A thin plastic sheet over one's shoe makes one's foot strikingly warmer. Just slide the foot into a bread bag, then pull a wool gaiter on to hold the bag in place. Of course, one does need a fresh bag for the trip back -- or maybe in the middle, if you put your foot down a lot. Nobody eats that much bread, but I've found that the orange bags that my newspaper comes in work perfectly, and a summer's worth lasts all winter. In a pinch, one can buy a box of gallon-size twist-tie bags. For wide bags, one needs the sort of gaiter that comes down over the foot. When we wore slot cleats, the cleat would snip a hole in the bag in exactly the right place. I doubt that this would work with the more-complicated cleats now in fashion, but I've no idea what to do instead -- my pedals never wore out {replaceable bearings, you know}, so I still wear slot cleats. (In the summer. Winters, I wear walking shoes.) I've used bags to keep my socks dry when wearing sandals in snowy weather. In this case, pull the bag over your heavy socks, then pull knee-hose over the bags to keep them in place. The thinner and less absorbent the hose, the better, so buy the very cheapest. They do come in black. -- joy beeson at comcast dot net http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/ The above message is a Usenet post. I don't recall having given anyone permission to use it on a Web site. |
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On 1/11/2015 9:26 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:
A thin plastic sheet over one's shoe makes one's foot strikingly warmer. Just slide the foot into a bread bag, then pull a wool gaiter on to hold the bag in place. Of course, one does need a fresh bag for the trip back -- or maybe in the middle, if you put your foot down a lot. Nobody eats that much bread, but I've found that the orange bags that my newspaper comes in work perfectly, and a summer's worth lasts all winter. In a pinch, one can buy a box of gallon-size twist-tie bags. For wide bags, one needs the sort of gaiter that comes down over the foot. When we wore slot cleats, the cleat would snip a hole in the bag in exactly the right place. I doubt that this would work with the more-complicated cleats now in fashion, but I've no idea what to do instead -- my pedals never wore out {replaceable bearings, you know}, so I still wear slot cleats. (In the summer. Winters, I wear walking shoes.) I've used bags to keep my socks dry when wearing sandals in snowy weather. In this case, pull the bag over your heavy socks, then pull knee-hose over the bags to keep them in place. The thinner and less absorbent the hose, the better, so buy the very cheapest. They do come in black. I agree, with one detail: I always have one pair of socks underneath the plastic bags. Works for me! -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On Sun, 11 Jan 2015 22:26:25 -0400, Joy Beeson
wrote: A thin plastic sheet over one's shoe makes one's foot strikingly warmer. Just slide the foot into a bread bag, then pull a wool gaiter on to hold the bag in place. Of course, one does need a fresh bag for the trip back -- or maybe in the middle, if you put your foot down a lot. Nobody eats that much bread, but I've found that the orange bags that my newspaper comes in work perfectly, and a summer's worth lasts all winter. In a pinch, one can buy a box of gallon-size twist-tie bags. For wide bags, one needs the sort of gaiter that comes down over the foot. Why not put the bag on over the sock and then foot, sock and bag, into the shoe? I've done something similar in heavy rain and it worked for an hour or so till I got home. When we wore slot cleats, the cleat would snip a hole in the bag in exactly the right place. I doubt that this would work with the more-complicated cleats now in fashion, but I've no idea what to do instead -- my pedals never wore out {replaceable bearings, you know}, so I still wear slot cleats. (In the summer. Winters, I wear walking shoes.) I've used bags to keep my socks dry when wearing sandals in snowy weather. In this case, pull the bag over your heavy socks, then pull knee-hose over the bags to keep them in place. The thinner and less absorbent the hose, the better, so buy the very cheapest. They do come in black. Ah, I didn't read this before I posted the above :-) But why sandals in the snow? -- Cheers, John B. |
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On Mon, 12 Jan 2015 18:58:54 +0700, John B. Slocomb
wrote: But why sandals in the snow? My feet are wider at the toe than at the heel, so wearing shoes isn't always an option, and I wouldn't dream of attempting to drive a car wearing boots. -- Joy Beeson joy beeson at comcast dot net |
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On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 00:51:54 -0400, Joy Beeson
wrote: On Mon, 12 Jan 2015 18:58:54 +0700, John B. Slocomb wrote: But why sandals in the snow? My feet are wider at the toe than at the heel, so wearing shoes isn't always an option, and I wouldn't dream of attempting to drive a car wearing boots. I don't think that wider at the toe than the heel is abnormal, is it? As for driving shoes, you sound like my wife :-) She has a special pair of sandals just to drive the car. Says her regular shoes "don't feel comfortable". ( But, of course she's never seen snow either :-) -- Cheers, John B. |
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On 12/01/2015 11:51 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jan 2015 18:58:54 +0700, John B. Slocomb wrote: But why sandals in the snow? My feet are wider at the toe than at the heel, so wearing shoes isn't always an option, and I wouldn't dream of attempting to drive a car wearing boots. In Québec most people have to deal with driving a car wearing boots - at least for 7 or 8 months per year. |
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On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 08:17:33 -0500, Duane
wrote: On 12/01/2015 11:51 PM, Joy Beeson wrote: On Mon, 12 Jan 2015 18:58:54 +0700, John B. Slocomb wrote: But why sandals in the snow? My feet are wider at the toe than at the heel, so wearing shoes isn't always an option, and I wouldn't dream of attempting to drive a car wearing boots. In Québec most people have to deal with driving a car wearing boots - at least for 7 or 8 months per year. Perhaps because I wore "brogans" for the better part of the 20 years I spent in the air force I can drive with "boots" on. www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/brogan I include the reference as I discovered that "brogan" is not the name of a specific item of foot wear, as I had thought, but means a number of different things. It is even a bloke's name :-) I even found a site attributed to "Successful Writer", and entitled "Exploring the use and misuse of words" that discussed the term and displayed a picture of what he referred to as a "brogan", referring to it as an "Air Force Brogan". It makes me wonder as when I served the word "brogan" was listed in the supply catalog as a very specific shoe style which described an ankle high work shoe. The picture was a calf high thing that the Air force termed as a "Boot" in my day :-) I guess it is true, as I have read, that English is a language that is still evolving. Perhaps it is a reason for the very evolved (convoluted?) discussions that we sometime have in these "bicycle" sites :-) -- Cheers, John B. |
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On Mon, 12 Jan 2015 18:58:54 +0700, John B. Slocomb
wrote: Why not put the bag on over the sock and then foot, sock and bag, into the shoe? Same reason I don't put my windbreaker on under my jersey. The bread-bag trick is for times when you have to wear summer shoes in the winter; if you buy a special shoe large enough to wear over thick socks, it might as well be one without ventilation holes. -- Joy Beeson joy beeson at comcast dot net |
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