Winter and Racing

On Jan 24, 9:11*pm, "Tom Kunich" wrote:
"Uncle Dave" wrote in message

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My guess is you're a juvenile Yankee and so have never heard of Reg
Harris. *Yes, it was embarrassing, but not for him. *He won the
British pro sprint title at the age of 54 to highlight how low the pro
track scene had sunk.

I do find it interesting that you consider it an embarrassment rather than
what it really was - a man perfectly suited to a particular kind of racing
and that kind of racing short enough that power and not ultimate stamina was
the deciding factor.

Well, Trevor Bull looked somewhat embarrassed as well he might because
he had dominated the pro sprint for some years and was beaten in
straight rides IIRC. It was even live on telly - most unusual in
those days.

UD

"Uncle Dave" wrote in message
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On Jan 24, 9:11 pm, "Tom Kunich" wrote:

My guess is you're a juvenile Yankee and so have never heard of Reg
Harris. Yes, it was embarrassing, but not for him. He won the
British pro sprint title at the age of 54 to highlight how low the pro
track scene had sunk.

I do find it interesting that you consider it an embarrassment rather
than
what it really was - a man perfectly suited to a particular kind of
racing
and that kind of racing short enough that power and not ultimate stamina
was
the deciding factor.

Well, Trevor Bull looked somewhat embarrassed as well he might because
he had dominated the pro sprint for some years and was beaten in
straight rides IIRC. It was even live on telly - most unusual in
those days.

What I'm saying is that power goes down MUCH slower with age than stamina.
And if Reg was stronger than Trev to begin with he might have kept that
advantage. Straight sets certainly suggests that.

On Jan 24, 3:38*pm, "Tom Kunich" wrote:

What I'm saying is that power goes down MUCH slower with age than stamina..

This, or course, is exactly backwards.

-rj

Tom Kunich wrote:
What I'm saying is that power goes down MUCH slower with age than stamina.

ronaldo_jeremiah
This, or course, is exactly backwards.

Correct. Unfortunately.

Kurgan Gringioni wrote:

"Kyle Legate" wrote in message
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On Jan 22, 8:33 pm, "Tom Kunich" wrote:
The group gets pretty silly in the winter time. Thinking back I
suppose it's
always been that way. And there's nothing wrong with that either.

We're about to start on a new racing year and we're going to see
something
that I don't think has happened before - Lance Armstrong is coming back
seriously with a good team.

Has there been any time in the past where ex-champions have tried to
make a
serious impact again?

Yes, and it was always an embarrassment.


Michael Jordan un-retired and won 3 more championships.

Brett faRve un-retired twice and tomorrow she's playing in the NFC
Championship game. (I'm not a fan of diva faRve)

Sugar Ray Leonard un-retired to fight Marvin Hagler and won in a split
decision. That fight was anything but an embarassment.

how about some examples from cycling. I don't care about basketball,
football or boxing.

Uncle Dave wrote:
On Jan 23, 8:35 pm, Kyle Legate wrote:
On Jan 22, 8:33 pm, "Tom Kunich" wrote:
The group gets pretty silly in the winter time. Thinking back I suppose it's
always been that way. And there's nothing wrong with that either.
We're about to start on a new racing year and we're going to see something
that I don't think has happened before - Lance Armstrong is coming back
seriously with a good team.
Has there been any time in the past where ex-champions have tried to make a
serious impact again?
Yes, and it was always an embarrassment.

My guess is you're a juvenile Yankee

No, and NO.

In article ,
"GoneBeforeMyTime" wrote:

I cannot think of any pro cyclists who have been champions, retired, and
returned to glory. Armstrong may be most contrary to this trend, in that
I don't consider a podium at the TdF an embarrassment.

--
Ryan Cousineau

Several, Longo retired in 1990, then came back to win just about anything
and everything. Van Moorsel, one of the greatest comebacks of all times,
Gino Bartali forced retirement, then comes back 10 years later to win the
tour. There must be others.

Ooh, Longo. OKy, but was Bartali "retired," or just the victim of a
career interrupted by the war?

--
Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

In article ,
"GoneBeforeMyTime" wrote:


BTW, we talked at lengths about Longo. You might enjoy these two parts with
also the Canadians.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cBmwjz8Vng
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8uOACGjlIA

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Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."