Winter and Racing

The group gets pretty silly in the winter time. Thinking back I suppose it's
always been that way. And there's nothing wrong with that either.

We're about to start on a new racing year and we're going to see something
that I don't think has happened before - Lance Armstrong is coming back
seriously with a good team.

Has there been any time in the past where ex-champions have tried to make a
serious impact again?

We DO have something to look forward to. I expect Contador to be a lot
faster than Lance but he is generally only really fast in the hills. That
means that in Time Trials and flat stages he'll have to stay on the front to
keep Lance from making a lead there.

It will probably end in another Contador win but it will be a lot more
interesting than if Lance wasn't there.

On Jan 22, 8:33*pm, "Tom Kunich" wrote:
The group gets pretty silly in the winter time. Thinking back I suppose it's
always been that way. And there's nothing wrong with that either.

We're about to start on a new racing year and we're going to see something
that I don't think has happened before - Lance Armstrong is coming back
seriously with a good team.

Has there been any time in the past where ex-champions have tried to make a
serious impact again?

We DO have something to look forward to. I expect Contador to be a lot
faster than Lance but he is generally only really fast in the hills. That
means that in Time Trials and flat stages he'll have to stay on the front to
keep Lance from making a lead there.

It will probably end in another Contador win but it will be a lot more
interesting than if Lance wasn't there.

First off, have you been drinking? I mean, hell, 5 posts in a row
from you, some even talking about "mountain" biking, whatever the hell
that is.

Second, yes I agree this group gets silly in wintertime. we need a
good dose of those July folks to set us straight.

Third, yes the Pistolero will be fast and yes he will TT better than
LANCE. (Note that he was the Spanish national TT champ last year.)
LANCE will try to have impact, but he will fail utterly. He's nearly
40 ****ing years old ... and he did his best racing when he was
completely juiced. Contador is going to make him look like a slow old
goat come July ... and he'll probably end up riding for some young
punk on Team The Shack ... and talking about how it's all about the
young people now ... that he's just there to help out the kids ...

On Jan 22, 9:11*pm, bar wrote:
On Jan 22, 8:33*pm, "Tom Kunich" wrote:





The group gets pretty silly in the winter time. Thinking back I suppose it's
always been that way. And there's nothing wrong with that either.

We're about to start on a new racing year and we're going to see something
that I don't think has happened before - Lance Armstrong is coming back
seriously with a good team.

Has there been any time in the past where ex-champions have tried to make a
serious impact again?

We DO have something to look forward to. I expect Contador to be a lot
faster than Lance but he is generally only really fast in the hills. That
means that in Time Trials and flat stages he'll have to stay on the front to
keep Lance from making a lead there.

It will probably end in another Contador win but it will be a lot more
interesting than if Lance wasn't there.

First off, have you been drinking?

No, just taking his meds like he's supposed to.

*I mean, hell, 5 posts in a row
from you, some even talking about "mountain" biking, whatever the hell
that is.

Mountain biking? I think it's like running, whatever that is.

Second, yes I agree this group gets silly in wintertime. *we need a
good dose of those July folks to set us straight.

Third, yes the Pistolero will be fast and yes he will TT better than
LANCE. *(Note that he was the Spanish national TT champ last year.)
LANCE will try to have impact, but he will fail utterly. *He's nearly
40 ****ing years old ... and he did his best racing when he was
completely juiced. *Contador is going to make him look like a slow old
goat come July ... and he'll probably end up riding for some young
punk on Team The Shack ... and talking about how it's all about the
young people now ... that he's just there to help out the kids ...

If Lance doesn't get his TT'ing fixed, then he (obviously) will be
left behind.

He's had a taste of blood, and humiliation (for him; third isn't even
first loser).
There will be no excuses ("limited time to get ready", LAF/cancer
distractions, and I'm guessing fewer pregnancies) this time around.
I think it's safe to say "motivated like never before" and only partly
because "010" is the last good shot at a TdF win he can even remotely
expect.

I just hope that all combatants get to the start with training
("preparation", if you will) done and at the top of form.
No radios? This could be a memorable Tour.

And if Lance falls by the wayside, even a DNF, his butt is covered in
front (so to speak).
Contador is the one with something to lose, not that I think he's
going to lose, since he probably will be "fastest guy".
--D-y

On Jan 22, 8:33 pm, "Tom Kunich" wrote:
The group gets pretty silly in the winter time. Thinking back I suppose it's
always been that way. And there's nothing wrong with that either.

We're about to start on a new racing year and we're going to see something
that I don't think has happened before - Lance Armstrong is coming back
seriously with a good team.

Has there been any time in the past where ex-champions have tried to make a
serious impact again?

Yes, and it was always an embarrassment.

"Kyle Legate" wrote in message
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On Jan 22, 8:33 pm, "Tom Kunich" wrote:
The group gets pretty silly in the winter time. Thinking back I suppose
it's
always been that way. And there's nothing wrong with that either.

We're about to start on a new racing year and we're going to see
something
that I don't think has happened before - Lance Armstrong is coming back
seriously with a good team.

Has there been any time in the past where ex-champions have tried to
make a
serious impact again?

Yes, and it was always an embarrassment.


Michael Jordan un-retired and won 3 more championships.

Brett faRve un-retired twice and tomorrow she's playing in the NFC
Championship game. (I'm not a fan of diva faRve)

Sugar Ray Leonard un-retired to fight Marvin Hagler and won in a split
decision. That fight was anything but an embarassment.

Kurgan Gringioni wrote:

"Kyle Legate" wrote in message
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On Jan 22, 8:33 pm, "Tom Kunich" wrote:
The group gets pretty silly in the winter time. Thinking back I
suppose it's
always been that way. And there's nothing wrong with that either.

We're about to start on a new racing year and we're going to see
something
that I don't think has happened before - Lance Armstrong is coming back
seriously with a good team.

Has there been any time in the past where ex-champions have tried to
make a
serious impact again?

Yes, and it was always an embarrassment.


Michael Jordan un-retired and won 3 more championships.

Brett faRve un-retired twice and tomorrow she's playing in the NFC
Championship game. (I'm not a fan of diva faRve)

Sugar Ray Leonard un-retired to fight Marvin Hagler and won in a split
decision. That fight was anything but an embarassment.

Rumor is that Jordan had to "retire" for a while because of gambling issues.

"z" wrote in message ...
Kurgan Gringioni wrote:

"Kyle Legate" wrote in message
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On Jan 22, 8:33 pm, "Tom Kunich" wrote:
The group gets pretty silly in the winter time. Thinking back I
suppose it's
always been that way. And there's nothing wrong with that either.

We're about to start on a new racing year and we're going to see
something
that I don't think has happened before - Lance Armstrong is coming
back
seriously with a good team.

Has there been any time in the past where ex-champions have tried to
make a
serious impact again?

Yes, and it was always an embarrassment.


Michael Jordan un-retired and won 3 more championships.

Brett faRve un-retired twice and tomorrow she's playing in the NFC
Championship game. (I'm not a fan of diva faRve)

Sugar Ray Leonard un-retired to fight Marvin Hagler and won in a split
decision. That fight was anything but an embarassment.

Rumor is that Jordan had to "retire" for a while because of gambling
issues.



Dumbass -

I'd hesitate to accept that rumour as gospel.

Why would "retiring" for a year and a half make gambling issues go away?

thanks,

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.

"KurganGringioni" wrote in message
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Why would "retiring" for a year and a half make gambling issues go away?

Once paid off the gambling debts couldn't be used to "fix" results.

"Tom Kunich" wrote in message
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"KurganGringioni" wrote in message
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Why would "retiring" for a year and a half make gambling issues go away?

Once paid off the gambling debts couldn't be used to "fix" results.




Dumbass -

Bad argument.

1) Jordan made a ****load of money. He could easily pay off any gambling
debt. He was grossing something like $50million/year at that time.
2) When a guy like him retires, the earning potential decreases. Less
endorsements and no player salary. So if debts were an issue, retiring would
make the debt issue worse, not better.

thanks,

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.

"KurganGringioni" wrote in message
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"Tom Kunich" wrote in message
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Once paid off the gambling debts couldn't be used to "fix" results.

Bad argument.

1) Jordan made a ****load of money. He could easily pay off any gambling
debt. He was grossing something like $50million/year at that time.
2) When a guy like him retires, the earning potential decreases. Less
endorsements and no player salary. So if debts were an issue, retiring
would make the debt issue worse, not better.

While you're quite correct that Jordan has a load of money, it isn't reality
that's the problem but other people's imaginations. That's why I note that
he can't have any gambling debts.