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A bizarre "solution" to another self-inflicted "problem" imposed onus by weight weenies
Are you sure you're an engineer, Colesy?
On Jul 15, 1:09*pm, Peter Cole wrote: I like really flimsy fenders. I'd rather replace them periodically than have them create more solid jams in the fork. Zefal fenders are about the flimsiest I've found. They're still too robust for my liking. Fenders can be hazardous, but I see bikers with them riding through debris all the time -- not a good idea. In almost twenty years riding with fenders I picked up a branch, with leaves on it, in my spokes only once, at speed, the SKS special strut links pulled out of their inboard sockets and by the time I slowed the branch had been stripped of leaves and bent into the spokes against the fork. No bent spokes, and the struts were easily straightened. Good stiff SKS P65 fenders never came closer than 2in/50mm of going into the spokes -- that's where they normally run. On a properly designed bike the mudguard fits closely enough in the fork anyway and close enough the top of the tyre, and is made stiff enough anyway, not to get into the spokes because there is no open path for them to get into the spokes and the strut-supported part is short and braced by the fork crown across its full width. (At the back the mudguards should be fixed to the bike and the rack at so many places that the strut-supported run is very short indeed -- same safe result.) This is all about proper design of a joined-up bike from the beginning, as the Europeans do, and not throwing an ill-assorted bike together from an oddjob of tacky aftermarket parts as the Americans do. The problem you foresee, Peter, is entirely a danger of the light weight obsession in cycling which leads to limp, flexible mudguards. And you want to "solve" this self-inflicted problem caused by limp fenders by making them even limper! Man, that's like an electrical engineer saying, "The Chantilly lace sheathing on this kilovolt cable won't stop a customer killing himself by grasping it firmly, therefore let's make the holes in the lace bigger so he kills himself faster." This is another of your "solutions" that tends towards zero population growth... Andre Jute A little, a very little thought will suffice -- John Maynard Keynes |
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A bizarre "solution" to another self-inflicted "problem" imposedon us by weight weenies
Hi,
On 07/15/2010 07:41 PM, Andre Jute wrote: Are you sure you're an engineer, Colesy? On Jul 15, 1:09 pm, Peter wrote: I like really flimsy fenders. I'd rather replace them periodically than have them create more solid jams in the fork. Zefal fenders are about the flimsiest I've found. They're still too robust for my liking. Fenders can be hazardous, but I see bikers with them riding through debris all the time -- not a good idea. Interesting - some people see riding with fenders as dangerous, while I consider fenders "safety important"... As I'm wearing glasses (and have been for all my life), I'm rather sensible to dirt or stuff in my eyes (or on the glasses). So, I consider riding without fenders dangerous, as you have the dirt thrown right into your face... Sure, this depends somewhat on the bike, someone sitting low on a racing bike is closer to the wheels than someone sitting upright on a comfort bike. Actually, looking at recumbent trikes, where one sits right behind the wheels, I'd never go without fenders... Fortunately everyone is responsible for their own bike and for their own safety ;-) In almost twenty years riding with fenders I picked up a branch, with leaves on it, in my spokes only once, at speed, the SKS special strut links pulled out of their inboard sockets and by the time I slowed the branch had been stripped of leaves and bent into the spokes against the fork. No bent spokes, and the struts were easily straightened. Good stiff SKS P65 fenders never came closer than 2in/50mm of going into the spokes -- that's where they normally run. Same with me, though my fenders don't have that safety feature... So I used a saw to saw through the struts and re-connected them with electrical terminal strip connectors... Should work fine. Ciao.. |
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