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  #51  
Old October 20th 14, 09:22 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Peter Keller[_3_]
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On Sun, 19 Oct 2014 17:44:08 +0100, Mrcheerful wrote:

On 19/10/2014 16:41, JNugent wrote:
On 19/10/2014 16:31, Judith wrote:

"TMS320" wrote:
"JNugent" wrote
On 18/10/2014 22:58, TMS320 wrote:
"Cassandra"
"TMS320" wrote:

And as Phil Lee says, most drivers don't have a clue about HC
rule 170 (as adequately demonstrated by Cassandra).

Although even the most retarded of cyclists are fully aware of
Rule 176. They simply choose to ignore it

There is a big difference between drivers causing danger to others
and cyclists disobeying rules. Do not to confuse the two.

Cycling through a red traffic light isn't causing danger to others?

It might. Depends on how it is done. But not in my experience as
driver and pedestrian onlooker. There are much bigger sharks in the
sea to worry about.

A Bournemouth cyclist has been jailed for 12 months following an
incident in which he rode through a red traffic light and collided
with a nine-year-old girl, leaving her with a fractured skull and
bleeding on the brain


Nah... that can't be correct. Going through a red light causes no real
danger, you see.

It can't have been the cyclist's fault.


It was the road's fault, it went downhill. Which is why he didn't hang
around afterwards.


He must have hung around somewhere. That is why he is in jail now.
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  #52  
Old October 20th 14, 09:23 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Peter Keller[_3_]
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On Sun, 19 Oct 2014 09:04:28 +0000, Cassandra wrote:

On Sun, 19 Oct 2014 01:45:43 +0100, JNugent
wrote:

On 18/10/2014 22:58, TMS320 wrote:
"Cassandra"
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 12:36:08 +0100, "TMS320"
wrote:

And as Phil Lee says, most drivers don't have a clue about HC
rule 170 (as adequately demonstrated by Cassandra).

Although even the most retarded of cyclists are fully aware of Rule
176. They simply choose to ignore it

There is a big difference between drivers causing danger to others and
cyclists disobeying rules. Do not to confuse the two.


Cycling through a red traffic light isn't causing danger to others?


Don't worry, all liability is removed from the cyclist provided they
shout "I'm not stopping, get out of the ****ing way"


Please, take me to this "****ing way"
  #53  
Old October 20th 14, 12:01 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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"Mrcheerful" wrote in message
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On 19/10/2014 23:03, TMS320 wrote:


However, I spotted one:
Poundland lamps would have been better than nothing.


Well done, an opinion, not regurgitating from a script. I don't agree
with you.


So you believe that a bicycle, in the dark, is not made more visible by
having a light on it ?


Let me remind you that Poundland lamps (or similar) are the matter of
discussion. Not merely 'a light'

You are either a blind person or stupid.


No. It is being practical.


  #54  
Old October 20th 14, 12:23 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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"Judith" wrote
"TMS320" wrote:
"JNugent" wrote



Cycling through a red traffic light isn't causing danger to others?


It might. Depends on how it is done. But not in my experience as driver
and
pedestrian onlooker. There are much bigger sharks in the sea to worry
about.


A Bournemouth cyclist has been jailed for 12 months following an incident
in
which he rode through a red traffic light and collided with a
nine-year-old
girl, leaving her with a fractured skull and bleeding on the brain


It's a shame it occurred and it is probably a fair punishment for a very
rare consequence. I don't image it provides any comfort to the 2 (at least)
people *a day* that are routinely KSI'd on the roads (and hardly ever
reported on) while trying to get about on foot.


  #55  
Old October 20th 14, 12:24 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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"Tarcap" wrote in message

You appear to be saying that no lights at all would be better than
functioning lights which happen to cost £1.
Could you please confirm that?


When it is said that something is no better than nothing, then it does not
necessarily mean that nothing is better than something.

Such a distortion of logic suggests to me that you are desperately short of
some basic intelligence. Could you please confirm that?


  #56  
Old October 20th 14, 12:40 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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"Peter Keller" wrote in message
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On Sun, 19 Oct 2014 23:02:14 +0100, TMS320 wrote:

"JNugent" wrote in message
On 19/10/2014 09:43, TMS320 wrote:
"JNugent" wrote
On 18/10/2014 22:58, TMS320 wrote:
"Cassandra"
"TMS320" wrote:

And as Phil Lee says, most drivers don't have a clue about HC
rule 170 (as adequately demonstrated by Cassandra).

Although even the most retarded of cyclists are fully aware of
Rule 176. They simply choose to ignore it

There is a big difference between drivers causing danger to others
and cyclists disobeying rules. Do not to confuse the two.

Cycling through a red traffic light isn't causing danger to others?

It might. Depends on how it is done. But not in my experience as
driver and pedestrian onlooker. There are much bigger sharks in the
sea to worry about.

(BTW, I know you struggle with sort of thing so I shall point out here
that the last sentence is a metaphor not a change of subject.)

So you firmly believe that there are no safety implications for anyone
else if cyclists break every road safety law in the book, especially
the ones about traffic lights?


Another example of you making something up out of nothing. You really
don't understand metaphors.


Pardon? What does a metaphor have to do with the danger of bicycling
through traffic lights?


I would have thought that you, of anyone, might realise. It is a metaphor
concerning the total set of hazards one has to cope with on the roads. The
hazard of a cyclist going through a red light? It's deep in the
noise.


  #57  
Old October 20th 14, 12:53 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On 20/10/2014 12:01, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote in message
...
On 19/10/2014 23:03, TMS320 wrote:


However, I spotted one:
Poundland lamps would have been better than nothing.

Well done, an opinion, not regurgitating from a script. I don't agree
with you.


So you believe that a bicycle, in the dark, is not made more visible by
having a light on it ?


Let me remind you that Poundland lamps (or similar) are the matter of
discussion. Not merely 'a light'

You are either a blind person or stupid.


No. It is being practical.



Are you trying to say that cheap lights do not give any light output?
  #58  
Old October 20th 14, 12:54 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
MrCheerful
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On 20/10/2014 12:23, TMS320 wrote:
"Judith" wrote
"TMS320" wrote:
"JNugent" wrote



Cycling through a red traffic light isn't causing danger to others?

It might. Depends on how it is done. But not in my experience as driver
and
pedestrian onlooker. There are much bigger sharks in the sea to worry
about.


A Bournemouth cyclist has been jailed for 12 months following an incident
in
which he rode through a red traffic light and collided with a
nine-year-old
girl, leaving her with a fractured skull and bleeding on the brain


It's a shame it occurred and it is probably a fair punishment for a very
rare consequence. I don't image it provides any comfort to the 2 (at least)
people *a day* that are routinely KSI'd on the roads (and hardly ever
reported on) while trying to get about on foot.



You mean the ones mown down by cyclists.
  #59  
Old October 20th 14, 12:58 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Bod[_5_]
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On 20/10/2014 12:54, Mrcheerful wrote:
On 20/10/2014 12:23, TMS320 wrote:
"Judith" wrote
"TMS320" wrote:
"JNugent" wrote



Cycling through a red traffic light isn't causing danger to others?

It might. Depends on how it is done. But not in my experience as driver
and
pedestrian onlooker. There are much bigger sharks in the sea to worry
about.

A Bournemouth cyclist has been jailed for 12 months following an
incident
in
which he rode through a red traffic light and collided with a
nine-year-old
girl, leaving her with a fractured skull and bleeding on the brain


It's a shame it occurred and it is probably a fair punishment for a very
rare consequence. I don't image it provides any comfort to the 2 (at
least)
people *a day* that are routinely KSI'd on the roads (and hardly ever
reported on) while trying to get about on foot.



You mean the ones mown down by cyclists.

Cite?
  #60  
Old October 20th 14, 01:01 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
MrCheerful
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Default No lights, dark clothing, no reflectives, no street lights.

On 20/10/2014 12:58, Bod wrote:
On 20/10/2014 12:54, Mrcheerful wrote:
On 20/10/2014 12:23, TMS320 wrote:
"Judith" wrote
"TMS320" wrote:
"JNugent" wrote


Cycling through a red traffic light isn't causing danger to others?

It might. Depends on how it is done. But not in my experience as
driver
and
pedestrian onlooker. There are much bigger sharks in the sea to worry
about.

A Bournemouth cyclist has been jailed for 12 months following an
incident
in
which he rode through a red traffic light and collided with a
nine-year-old
girl, leaving her with a fractured skull and bleeding on the brain

It's a shame it occurred and it is probably a fair punishment for a very
rare consequence. I don't image it provides any comfort to the 2 (at
least)
people *a day* that are routinely KSI'd on the roads (and hardly ever
reported on) while trying to get about on foot.



You mean the ones mown down by cyclists.

Cite?


They are not reported apparently.
 




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