"Disabled" Guy - "pepper sprayed" at 2012

On 11/08/2012 08:18, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 01:41:47 +0100, Phil W Lee
wrote:

Pedt "\"@ considered Fri, 10 Aug 2012
10:12:07 +0100 the perfect time to write:

In message , at 21:59:52 on
Tue, 7 Aug 2012, Phil W Lee sniffed the air and
proclaimed
Pedt "\"@ considered Tue, 7 Aug 2012
01:07:15 +0100 the perfect time to write:

No campaign from you then? I see Tom hasn't responded either as to why
he hasn't been campaigning for pedestrians and bicycles to be banned
from the pavement on this bit of road as it is 'too dangerous'. It
wouldn't be because you are both desperately trying to dig yourself out
of the hole you've gotten into and daren't reply as it wouldn't hold up
to any sort of scrutiny would it?

Why are you so keen to allow bullying motor traffic to drive
vulnerable road users off the public highway?

Why are CM so keen to bully other road users?

Do you shoulder barge your way through supermarket queues in such a
fashion, taking advantage of your physically greater strength over
little old ladies buying teabags, or children buying sweets?

Of course not.

Continuing your analogy with a supermarket queue: I've often been in a
queue with one or two items behind someone with a large amount. Usually
I get asked if I'd like to go ahead and, similarly, when I do have a
large amount myself and a few behind me has a minimal amount I do the
same and suggest they go ahead.

My, and lots of other people's behaviour in a supermarket, is directly
akin to slower traffic not hindering faster traffic.

If you had a full trolley load queuing at a checkout and there was a
little old lady behind you with just a pint of milk, would you suggest
she went in front or would you say sod her, I was here first?


You do get a few with huge trolleys in front of someone with one item
and look at them dismissively with an "I'm so superior to you because of
the amount I'm buying" or "I was here first". You can, in your analogy
of a supermarket queue, make a comparison with the cyclists who think
they are more important.

That analogy works better the other way around.
Motorists are like the big trolley load people, who think they should
always go first because they are bigger, and spending more.

All of the users are capable of going faster at one time or another,
and while it's perfectly reasonable to allow them to do so when it's
safe, it should never be acceptable for them to do so at risk to
others.

Yes, I thought that. It is far more often that I, as a cyclist, have
my travel impeded by motor vehicle drivers than as a driver I am
impeded by a cyclist.

That's natures way I'm afraid. You can't expect the vast majority to
pander to the needs of an insignificant minority. Cyclists should wait
until the proper traffic has passed before using the road.

And when delayed by a cyclist, I find the road ahead nice and clear
when I do pass... until I join the back of the next traffic queue.


I find that when I pass a cyclist I travel at 3 or 4 times his speed &
never see him again.


--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton, of Lancaster
University, wrote in an interim assessment of the Understanding Walking
and Cycling study. "For them, cycling is a bit embarrassing, they fail
to see its purpose, and have no interest in integrating it into their
lives, certainly on a regular basis."

On 12/08/2012 16:51, Dave - Cyclists VOR wrote:
On 11/08/2012 08:18, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 01:41:47 +0100, Phil W Lee
wrote:

Pedt "\"@ considered Fri, 10 Aug 2012
10:12:07 +0100 the perfect time to write:

In message , at 21:59:52 on
Tue, 7 Aug 2012, Phil W Lee sniffed the air and
proclaimed
Pedt "\"@ considered Tue, 7 Aug 2012
01:07:15 +0100 the perfect time to write:

No campaign from you then? I see Tom hasn't responded either as to
why
he hasn't been campaigning for pedestrians and bicycles to be banned
from the pavement on this bit of road as it is 'too dangerous'. It
wouldn't be because you are both desperately trying to dig
yourself out
of the hole you've gotten into and daren't reply as it wouldn't
hold up
to any sort of scrutiny would it?

Why are you so keen to allow bullying motor traffic to drive
vulnerable road users off the public highway?

Why are CM so keen to bully other road users?

Do you shoulder barge your way through supermarket queues in such a
fashion, taking advantage of your physically greater strength over
little old ladies buying teabags, or children buying sweets?

Of course not.

Continuing your analogy with a supermarket queue: I've often been in a
queue with one or two items behind someone with a large amount. Usually
I get asked if I'd like to go ahead and, similarly, when I do have a
large amount myself and a few behind me has a minimal amount I do the
same and suggest they go ahead.

My, and lots of other people's behaviour in a supermarket, is directly
akin to slower traffic not hindering faster traffic.

If you had a full trolley load queuing at a checkout and there was a
little old lady behind you with just a pint of milk, would you suggest
she went in front or would you say sod her, I was here first?


You do get a few with huge trolleys in front of someone with one item
and look at them dismissively with an "I'm so superior to you
because of
the amount I'm buying" or "I was here first". You can, in your analogy
of a supermarket queue, make a comparison with the cyclists who think
they are more important.

That analogy works better the other way around.
Motorists are like the big trolley load people, who think they should
always go first because they are bigger, and spending more.

All of the users are capable of going faster at one time or another,
and while it's perfectly reasonable to allow them to do so when it's
safe, it should never be acceptable for them to do so at risk to
others.

Yes, I thought that. It is far more often that I, as a cyclist, have
my travel impeded by motor vehicle drivers than as a driver I am
impeded by a cyclist.

That's natures way I'm afraid. You can't expect the vast majority to
pander to the needs of an insignificant minority. Cyclists should wait
until the proper traffic has passed before using the road.

And when delayed by a cyclist, I find the road ahead nice and clear
when I do pass... until I join the back of the next traffic queue.


I find that when I pass a cyclist I travel at 3 or 4 times his speed &
never see him again.



Unless he gets hooked on your rear bumper!

;-)

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