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Old September 30th 09, 04:46 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
KG[_2_]
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On Sep 29, 7:41*am, "Tom Kunich" wrote:
"Ryan Cousineau" wrote in message

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"Once is chance, twice coincidence, three times is a pattern."


Two and three happened in the same instant.


If Page rolls a tubie in his next race, then we'll talk.


I find it interesting that the people talking about this as if it were a
mortal sin




Kunich, you're an ass. No one said it's a mortal sin.
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Old September 30th 09, 08:47 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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KG wrote:
You're excuse making. Very lame, although not unexpected since you are
connected to bike racing.


We should have a rbr competition to see who of us has the best excuse when
we suck in a race. Kurgan can be the judge since he says he doesn't race
anymore so now he only needs excuses for bedroom performances.

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Old September 30th 09, 08:48 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Jim Feeley wrote:
No, it's a venial sin. From wikipedia:

A venial sin meets at least one of the following criteria: 1. It does not
concern a "grave matter", 2. It is not committed with full knowledge, or
3. It is not committed with both deliberate and complete consent.

RBR posts and opinions fall under criterion #2


That's disappointing. I thought a venial sin was something to do with
getting laid which would make it a fairly uncommon sin on rbr.

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Old September 30th 09, 10:40 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:47:50 +0200, Donald Munro
wrote:

KG wrote:
You're excuse making. Very lame, although not unexpected since you are
connected to bike racing.


We should have a rbr competition to see who of us has the best excuse when
we suck in a race. Kurgan can be the judge since he says he doesn't race
anymore so now he only needs excuses for bedroom performances.


On my team of fatty masters it's usually because the radios weren't
working.
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Old September 30th 09, 01:28 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Johnny Twelve-Point presented by JFT wrote:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:47:50 +0200, Donald Munro
wrote:

KG wrote:
You're excuse making. Very lame, although not unexpected since you are
connected to bike racing.

We should have a rbr competition to see who of us has the best excuse when
we suck in a race. Kurgan can be the judge since he says he doesn't race
anymore so now he only needs excuses for bedroom performances.


On my team of fatty masters it's usually because the radios weren't
working.



We have a winner !


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Old September 30th 09, 08:07 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Sep 29, 9:41*am, "Tom Kunich" wrote:
"Ryan Cousineau" wrote in message

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"Once is chance, twice coincidence, three times is a pattern."


Two and three happened in the same instant.


If Page rolls a tubie in his next race, then we'll talk.


I find it interesting that the people talking about this as if it were a
mortal sin probably haven't the slightest idea what actually happened. If
these WERE new carbon wheels as some have suggested it's possible that the
finish wouldn't allow the glue to hold.


Then why aren't all the other pros who are riding new carbon wheels
crashing twice a week?

And if he was borrowing these wheels
perhaps he didn't feel like he should sand the finish.


If you thought that, and you rolled a tire on said wheels on Saturday,
WOULDN'T YOU SWITCH TO DIFFERENT WHEELS FOR SUNDAY?

Scratch that. Never mind what _you_ would do. Isn't that what a sane
and intelligent person who knows something about bikes would do?


But then it appears that those who know the least tend to cast the harshest
aspersions.


Indeed.

-rj

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Old September 30th 09, 08:35 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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"ronaldo_jeremiah" wrote in message
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On Sep 29, 9:41 am, "Tom Kunich" wrote:
"Ryan Cousineau" wrote in message

"Once is chance, twice coincidence, three times is a pattern."


Two and three happened in the same instant.


If Page rolls a tubie in his next race, then we'll talk.


I find it interesting that the people talking about this as if it were a
mortal sin probably haven't the slightest idea what actually happened.
If
these WERE new carbon wheels as some have suggested it's possible that
the
finish wouldn't allow the glue to hold.


Then why aren't all the other pros who are riding new carbon wheels
crashing twice a week?


Because the own them and so feel fine about sanding the finish off of the
inside of the rim?

And if he was borrowing these wheels
perhaps he didn't feel like he should sand the finish.


If you thought that, and you rolled a tire on said wheels on Saturday,
WOULDN'T YOU SWITCH TO DIFFERENT WHEELS FOR SUNDAY?


What if you didn't mount the tires yourself but simply received the complete
wheels? Here's the underscore - why are people talking about this as if they
knew what happened?

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Old September 30th 09, 09:05 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Sep 30, 2:35*pm, "Tom Kunich" wrote:
"ronaldo_jeremiah" wrote in message

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On Sep 29, 9:41 am, "Tom Kunich" wrote:
"Ryan Cousineau" wrote in message


"Once is chance, twice coincidence, three times is a pattern."


Two and three happened in the same instant.


If Page rolls a tubie in his next race, then we'll talk.


I find it interesting that the people talking about this as if it were a
mortal sin probably haven't the slightest idea what actually happened..
If
these WERE new carbon wheels as some have suggested it's possible that
the
finish wouldn't allow the glue to hold.


Then why aren't all the other pros who are riding new carbon wheels
crashing twice a week?


Because the own them and so feel fine about sanding the finish off of the
inside of the rim?


O.K., I'll admit that's one possible explanation for rolling one
tire. But not again the very next day.


And if he was borrowing these wheels
perhaps he didn't feel like he should sand the finish.


If you thought that, and you rolled a tire on said wheels on Saturday,
WOULDN'T YOU SWITCH TO DIFFERENT WHEELS FOR SUNDAY?


What if you didn't mount the tires yourself but simply received the complete
wheels?


I would never race on tires I hadn't glued myself. If I were or had
ever been a pro, I would race on wheels that had been prepared by a
mechanic I trusted. But if they rolled on Saturday, there is no way
in hell I'd have it happen again the next day.

Here's the underscore - why are people talking about this as if they
knew what happened?


Actually, you are the only one who is doing that. I don't know what
happened leading up to the failures and accidents; I only know that
the guy rolled three tires in two separate incidents on consecutive
days. Rolling even one tire is such a noobmove that it's notable all
by itself. For a pro to do it on consecutive days is remarkable. But
only you are offering up theories as to why it happened - borrowed
wheels, smooth carbon, closed shops, etc. I don't even care why it
happened, because none of those possibilities are a good excuse in my
mind; I'm only interested that it happened and that it happened more
than once.

-rj

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Old October 1st 09, 12:02 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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" writes:

People don't use tubulars in cyclocross because of a
"tiny difference in acceleration." If you weren't so
confident in your own towering ignorance, you might
_listen_ enough to understand why they do.


i don't race cross (i did ride a 'cross bike' as my mtb fora while), but
thought tubulars would be good to avoid flats by running lower
pressures.

since we're talking edge wheels and all. one can now get the poorly
adjusted cantilever mush braking feel by just spending a little more. perfect.

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