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In article ,
"Tom Kunich" wrote:

"ronaldo_jeremiah" wrote in message
...

Cut bait. You have no idea what you are talking about. Just admit
it.

You and your pals here come here not to discuss cycling but to try to prove
to yourselves that you have some sort of superiority over someone else. Just
so we're clear on it - I have a couple sets of glue-on cyclocross knobbies
down in the garage at the moment. And I have never rolled a glue-on either.

But unlike you and your stupid pals, I assume that Page is smart enough to
glue tires on properly and that something must have gone wrong that had
nothing to do with your impression that he must be stupid.

Awesome!
I would not have the energy for it.

--
Michael Press

In article
,
KG wrote:

On Sep 29, 1:26*am, Ryan Cousineau wrote:
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*KG wrote:
On Sep 28, 10:22*pm, Ryan Cousineau wrote:
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*KG wrote:
On Sep 28, 2:08*pm, "Tom Kunich" wrote:
"ronaldo_jeremiah" wrote in message


m...

On Sep 28, 10:25 am, "Tom Kunich" wrote:
"ronaldo_jeremiah" wrote in
message
Yeah. If I rolled a borrowed tire on Saturday, I'd probably
check
my
other borrowed tires for Sunday. But that's just me. I'm
crazy
like
that.

Interesting that you seem to know so much about how, where and
why
he
obtained those wheels.

Kindly explain to us the justifiable circumstances under which a
professional cyclist rolls three tires in two days.

By using wheels from DIFFERENT sources which are usually reliable.

snip

Rush Limbaugh Hypocrite -

Whatever happened to PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY?

Domoor, he's saying that rolled tires mean Page was unlucky. He's not
saying Page deserves a do-over.
Dumbass -

Once is unlucky. The same thing the next day is failing to learn from
one's mistakes. Trying to paint that as unlucky is the worst of bike
racing characteristics: the excuse making.

thanks,

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.

"Once is chance, twice coincidence, three times is a pattern."



Dumbass -

You're excuse making. Very lame, although not unexpected since you are
connected to bike racing.

Cold and timid soul,

I am suggesting that what happened to Page is the **** that happens when
you race a bike. You are blamestorming.

--
Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

KG wrote:
You're excuse making. Very lame, although not unexpected since you are
connected to bike racing.

Donald Munro wrote:
We should have a rbr competition to see who of us has the best excuse
when we suck in a race. Kurgan can be the judge since he says he doesn't
race anymore so now he only needs excuses for bedroom performances.

Johnny Twelve-Point presented by JFT wrote:
On my team of fatty masters it's usually because the radios weren't
working.

They're going to have to come up with a new one soon if the UCI have their
way. They sold me saline solution instead of CERA perhaps ?

On Sep 30, 4:02*pm, dpc wrote:
" writes:
People don't use tubulars in cyclocross because of a
"tiny difference in acceleration." *If you weren't so
confident in your own towering ignorance, you might
_listen_ enough to understand why they do.

i don't race cross (i did ride a 'cross bike' as my mtb fora while), but
thought tubulars would be good to avoid flats by running lower
pressures.

I was going to let Tom-Tom Club explain it, but since
you brought it up: I think you have the general idea,
just phrased unusually. CXers want to run lower tire pressures
for better traction on soft surfaces. Tubulars are less
prone to pinch flats and also seem (AFAIK) to squirm
less on the rim than a clincher at low-pressure.

since we're talking edge wheels and all. one can now get the poorly
adjusted cantilever mush braking feel by just spending a little more. perfect.

Hey, a little mud in the brake pads will texture those
wheels up good!

Despite spending a zillion posts trying to teach the
r.b.tech crowd that it can actually make a difference
in a hilly race to take a pound off your bike, I'm way
too cheap to buy lightweight wheels, let alone for
cross racing. However, I do believe there are three
situations where gram counting on your bike makes
sense:
- You're climbing Alpe d'Huez
- You're racing cyclocross
- You live in a 3rd floor or higher walkup.

Ben

On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 05:29:52 GMT, Ryan Cousineau
wrote:

I am suggesting that what happened to Page is the **** that happens when
you race a bike. You are blamestorming.

And I would pledge to remain a professional bike race fan if once,
just once, someone would use as a reply, when asked what happened and
why they didn't win the race, "**** happens. I lost. End of story."

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

" writes:

Despite spending a zillion posts trying to teach the r.b.tech crowd
that it can actually make a difference in a hilly race to take a pound
off your bike,

i agree that hilly is where i can see tom-tom's point about the benefit
of light wheels.

However, I do believe there are three
situations where gram counting on your bike makes
sense:
- You live in a 3rd floor or higher walkup.

bah! this is called 'training'. schleping the heavy training bike
up/down will make you stronger for the weekend warrior-ing.

\p
---
Never speak ill of yourself, your friends will always say enough on that
subject. - Charles-Maurice de Talleyrand

On Sep 28, 8:01*am, ronaldo_jeremiah
wrote:
On Sep 28, 8:12*am, Bob Schwartz
wrote:



Susan Walker wrote:
Bob Schwartz wrote:
Gluing tires is not hard. Rolling tires in consecutive
races is pretty ****ing stupid.

He did not glue them himself, he used borrowed wheels because of "supply
problems."
http://cxmagazine.com/vervecken-take...ton-dominates-....

No mention of it here, though:
http://cxmagazine.com/vervecken-fina...-tour-planet-b....

http://www.velonews.com/article/98716

Gluing borrowed tires on is not hard. Rolling borrowed tires
in consecutive races is pretty ****ing stupid. Not blaming
your sponsor's stuff is the right move though. Oh well, it
only cost him 30 UCI points or so. Maybe he won't miss those
in the late season call-ups.

There is a video clip of him rolling his tire in the Saturday
race he

http://cxmagazine.com/katie-compton-...ay-1-planet-bi...

Bob Schwartz

Yeah. *If I rolled a borrowed tire on Saturday, I'd probably check my
other borrowed tires for Sunday. *But that's just me. *I'm crazy like
that.

-rj

Well said.
-Paul

In article ,
wrote:

On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 05:29:52 GMT, Ryan Cousineau
wrote:

I am suggesting that what happened to Page is the **** that happens when
you race a bike. You are blamestorming.

And I would pledge to remain a professional bike race fan if once,
just once, someone would use as a reply, when asked what happened and
why they didn't win the race, "**** happens. I lost. End of story."

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

I've heard answers that honest, though I'll admit to not being able to
google anything up for your pleasure. I'll keep an eye out for
Disarmingly Honest Recaps, though.

--
Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

On Sep 27, 7:10*pm, Bob Schwartz
wrote:
ronaldo_jeremiah wrote:
From 'snooze:

"In the men’s race, Jonathan Page (Planet Bike) was once again looking
good only to fall victim to a mechanical. He and Ryan Trebon (Kona)
were off the front together, with Vervecken chasing a few seconds
back, when Page rolled both tires at the same time and hit the deck."

Holy ****!

*From the report from the Saturday race...

http://www.velonews.com/article/9866...le-usgp-of-cyc...
----
Page found himself taking a bike change for a very different reason —
he’d rolled a tire leading Powers up the course’s most difficult
section, a steep hill with a series of subterranean railroad ties at the
bottom referred to as “the Hillside Strangler.”
----

Bob Schwartz

I just watched the video and it occurred to me that it likely wasn't
an issue of the tires not being glued correctly, but rather a
boneheaded move of coming into what looks like waterbars at an angle
w/ the bike leaned as if it were a normal turn. Lot's of instant
lateral force on the tires similar to striking the wheel into a curb
while turning.

Of course, that doesn't explain how he did it two days in a row.

On Oct 1, 10:19*pm, Scott wrote:
On Sep 27, 7:10*pm, Bob Schwartz
wrote:



ronaldo_jeremiah wrote:
From 'snooze:

"In the men’s race, Jonathan Page (Planet Bike) was once again looking
good only to fall victim to a mechanical. He and Ryan Trebon (Kona)
were off the front together, with Vervecken chasing a few seconds
back, when Page rolled both tires at the same time and hit the deck."

Holy ****!

*From the report from the Saturday race...

http://www.velonews.com/article/9866...le-usgp-of-cyc...
----
Page found himself taking a bike change for a very different reason —
he’d rolled a tire leading Powers up the course’s most difficult
section, a steep hill with a series of subterranean railroad ties at the
bottom referred to as “the Hillside Strangler.”
----

Bob Schwartz

I just watched the video and it occurred to me that it likely wasn't
an issue of the tires not being glued correctly, but rather a
boneheaded move of coming into what looks like waterbars at an angle
w/ the bike leaned as if it were a normal turn. *Lot's of instant
lateral force on the tires similar to striking the wheel into a curb
while turning.

Of course, that doesn't explain how he did it two days in a row.

New race report and video from 'snooze:

http://www.velonews.com/article/9889...-gloucester-gp

"I glued tires, and I reglued tires, until 10 o'clock at night every
night..."

Won by almost two minutes. Good for him.

-rj